Re: Can Cotto Be As Good As Felix Trinidad Was ??
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Originally Posted by Puya
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Had you asked me a year or so ago my answer would have been straight forward and simple...No.
However in the past year the cotto machine has impressed me to the extent that i have become completely enthralled by him...
His handling of Zab was only equalled by Mayweathers dominace of Judah.
His beating of Mosely was the equivalnet of the Wright fights....
And his fight against Torres will,linger in memory forever...I thought he was vulnerable then and ripe for the taking!!!
Yet he advances and improves, he got 11 rounds expierience from Judah and 12 from Mosely...I feel that the Cotto we se now is not the finished article and in actuality he will be better than Trinidad in the future.
His beating of Mosely was the equivalnet of the Wright fights....
Totally disagree Wright beat Mosley quite comfortably both times by atleast 4 rounds. In many peoples eyes Cotto vs Mosley was a draw or no more than 1 point in it either way.
Totally disagree ICE. I was at the Cotto-Mosley fight and everyone around me, even the Shane fans were pretty convinced it was unanimous for Cotto. I didn't think there was any doubt.
Mosley got outboxed.
You got that right. HEy Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker I can see you are trying really hard to let people know that you think Cotto is 1 dimensional but simply he just ain't.
Another question: Do we all agree that Cotto killed himself to make 140?
I do think so
Ey Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker I can see you are trying really hard to let people know that you think Cotto is 1 dimensional but simply he just ain't.
Another question: Do we all agree that Cotto killed himself to make 140?
Did you read any of my posts ?? this is a quote from me earlier in the thread.
agree Cotto has changed his gameplan, plenty of times in fights with Mosley, Judah, Abdulaev, he has shown he can fight off the backfoot and Counter. Switching Southpaw, using his Jab, patient, body and head shots etc. Tito in fights with Oscar De La Hoya, Bernard Hopkins, Winky Wright never changed his gameplan. In the Wright fight Tito kept getting caught with the same basic combo from Wright and never once tried to change his gameplan in the fights i mentioned.
Re: Can Cotto Be As Good As Felix Trinidad Was ??
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Can he be as good-hell yes. Is he as good now? Hell no. He has a LONG way to go before he can be compared to Felix. I don't care about multiple weight titles etc,its who you fight in those weights. Tito fought the best of the best and annihilated most of them. Cotto's getting there,but not there yet,no way.
As for skills,I don't see where all this "Tito is 1dimensional talk" comes from. He only lost 2 2 guys naturally bigger than him and beat good boxers like Oba Carr and David Reid. From a pure offence perspective,Tito was the COMPLETE package,that's not 1 dimensional. His jabs,hooks,straight right hands,shorts,accurate punches,that's not 1 dimensional. Cotto can box alot better but Tito was more complete offensively.
As for skills,I don't see where all this "Tito is 1dimensional talk" comes from. He only lost 2 2 guys naturally bigger than him and beat good boxers like Oba Carr and David Reid. From a pure offence perspective,Tito was the COMPLETE package,that's not 1 dimensional. His jabs,hooks,straight right hands,shorts,accurate punches,that's not 1 dimensional. Cotto can box alot better but Tito was more complete offensively.
Tito has no plan B, yes he has good arrange of offensive skills no one doubted that. But he could never change his game plan, or adjust, being the complete package means being able to adjust and not keep doing the same thing, over and over when your losing a fight and getting caught with the same punches all the time like Tito did. Really and truthfully yes he was above his natural weight class when he fought Wright, Hopkins, but it doesn't really matter where it would of took place. because Wright, Hopkins, are much better fighters and they proved that Tito is 1 dimensional, i actually think few other fighters in the past proved Tito was 1 dimensional but they couldn't sustain it. If you notice in the Wright fight Tito was getting caught with the same basic Combo all the time jab, jab, straight left, And Tito could not change his game plan nor could he avoid the same basic combinations from Wright, Imo thats what you call a 1 dimensional fighter.