Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
He beat every man he faced and he faced everyone that was willing to face him !!
So did Marciano but people still hate him...Sometimes it doesn't matter what your record is for some people won't be pleased. There are always if's, but's, and so on.
If Tyson fought Lewis on the moon....
But Bowe didn't fight Lewis because Lennox had an ugly haircut....
Rocky could have fought Liston, Ali, and Former US Senator Strom Thurmond but he was scared of them and stayed retired
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
He beat every man he faced and he faced everyone that was willing to face him !!
So did Marciano but people still hate him...Sometimes it doesn't matter what your record is for some people won't be pleased. There are always if's, but's, and so on.
If Tyson fought Lewis on the moon....
But Bowe didn't fight Lewis because Lennox had an ugly haircut....
Rocky could have fought Liston, Ali, and Former US Senator Strom Thurmond but he was scared of them and stayed retired
Lyle your contradicting yourself ya spaz, I typed Lewis beat everyone he faced and he faced everyone that was willing to face him.
Then you say so did Marciano... but finish off by saying Marciano was scared of fighting Liston, Ali, and Strom Thurmond.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by snakey
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Snakey .... you know f*** all
Ali in his prime was practically a light- heavyweight's frame, Lewis would be pumping that pin point jab in his face all night, and picking his booming right hands. Ali would be on the back foot and quite simply would not be able to box his fight !!
Are we forgeting what ali did to foreman? Lewis was nothing compared to ali or foreman. Rocky mate ali would of been simply too quick for lewis.
Sorry to tell you this, but Lewis was in a different league all together to Foreman when it comes to boxing. Lewis was not to far behind Foreman with power either.
Ali to fast for Lewis ??? Lewis is just a big version of Ali with alot more power.
I have heard all the shite you yanks of got to say and none of you have came up with a realistic way that Ali could beat Lewis. He would be to fast for him ..... what the fuck does that mean !!
Lewis would have him backing up all night long and picking him off with his big reach advantage, and Ali would not have the power to worry Lewis, it would be a points victory if the carefull Lewis showed up, If the Lewis with something to prove showed up then I expect late stoppage !!
Tell ya, Lewis was the real deal.. first super heavyweight to use all is advantages to perfection !!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Snakey .... you know f*** all
Ali in his prime was practically a light- heavyweight's frame, Lewis would be pumping that pin point jab in his face all night,  and picking his booming right hands.  Ali would be on the back foot and quite simply would not be able to box his fight !!
The 1967 ALI that fought ernie Terrel would beat Lewis anyday (Tyrel was 6'5-6'6) & fought like almost exactly like Lewis (fighting smart using his pinpoint jab & height) ALI won on pouints by hitting his arms when he blocked & out landed him....i have no reason to beleive a fight w/ lewis wouldnt be the same .....
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by snakey
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Snakey .... you know f*** all
Ali in his prime was practically a light- heavyweight's frame, Lewis would be pumping that pin point jab in his face all night, and picking his booming right hands. Ali would be on the back foot and quite simply would not be able to box his fight !!
Are we forgeting what ali did to foreman? Lewis was nothing compared to ali or foreman. Rocky mate ali would of been simply too quick for lewis.
Sorry to tell you this,  but Lewis was in a different league all together to Foreman when it comes to boxing.  Lewis was not to far behind Foreman with power either. Â
Ali to fast for Lewis ???  Lewis is just a big version of Ali with alot more power.Â
I have heard all the s***e you yanks of got to say and none of you have came up with a realistic way that Ali could beat Lewis.     He would be to fast for him .....    what the f*** does that mean !!
Lewis would have him backing up all night long and picking him off with his big reach advantage, and Ali would not have the power to worry Lewis, it would be a points victory if the carefull Lewis showed up, If the Lewis with something to prove showed up then I expect late stoppage !!
Tell ya,  Lewis was the real deal..    first super heavyweight to use all is advantages to perfection !!
ROCKY i'm just curious whats your excuse for the Klitschko -Lewis fight ...if you even try to say lewis out boxed vitali you didnt see it...AND tehy were both slow....how can you say ""Ali to fast for Lewis ???" Lewis is just a big version of Ali with alot more power. "
WELL....Ali took risks that Lewis didnt ....if lewis was any kind of version of Ali hed have been more exciting...have you ever seen any Ali fights in there entirety
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
Gawdamn Means, your too cool on this thread. :coolclick:
"Ali took risks that Lewis didnt ....if lewis was any kind of version of Ali hed have been more exciting...have you ever seen any Ali fights in there entirety"--Means2184
:) :) :)
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
Ali wast too fast for Tyson, he had too good a jab for Tyson and side to side movement which Buster Douglas proved that Tyson could not cope with. In his prime Ali beat some big punchers and no way could Tyson stay with him.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
He beat every man he faced and he faced everyone that was willing to face him !!
So did Marciano but people still hate him...Sometimes it doesn't matter what your record is for some people won't be pleased. There are always if's, but's, and so on.
If Tyson fought Lewis on the moon....
But Bowe didn't fight Lewis because Lennox had an ugly haircut....
Rocky could have fought Liston, Ali, and Former US Senator Strom Thurmond but he was scared of them and stayed retired
wrong. marciano first retired because he not going 2 get enough money 2 fight the same people he already fought. plus his promoter took half his paycheck, (who rocky hated) and didnt want that scumbag to take anymore of his money. plus charles severly injured his nose. so after retiring for a couple of yrs. marciano lost his groove, now there would be big money involved to fight liston. so they beg to come and fight liston. ali wasnt even considered rocky prob about 37 yrs old now. realizes he is not what he used 2 b, because of his retirement. rocky knew liston was tough, and prob knew he couldnt win. and if he did lose, they would say " liston just beat an old man" just like hes been criticized for defeating joe louis. if liston fought thr rock when the rock was champ..rock would have accepted the fight and liston would have surly lost. rocky was SMART not scared. he said "comming out of retirement didnt do any good 4 louis, and ive learned from that". point being if ali(who wasnt even considered), liston or patterson had challenged him when he was champ....marciano would have accepted!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
i think ali would win in the end. but not without taking a brutal beating
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
Lewis is nothing. 80's tyson will beat ali in alis prime in 7 rounds, Lewis in the first 5 seconds.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by gyrokai
Gawdamn Means, your too cool on this thread. :coolclick:
"Ali took risks that Lewis didnt ....if lewis was any kind of version of Ali hed have been more exciting...have you ever seen any Ali fights in there entirety"--Means2184
:) :) :)
:coolclick: ty ,back at u
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
I wouldn't even say that Lewis was more "powerful" than Ali or had a better jab. Ali had a nice, quick, and effective jab. Lewis does have a nice, stiff jab, but he could barely beat Klitchko. Still, a lot of people fail to realize that Lewis only won 40 fights before he retired. I don't know if I could even say that Lewis could have beaten Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, George Foreman, or others like this. He's just not as good as Ali.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by ali2coolwitu
Lewis is nothing. 80's tyson will beat ali in alis prime in 7 rounds, Lewis in the first 5 seconds.
NO AND NEVER ! ! !
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by means2184
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
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Originally Posted by snakey
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Snakey .... you know f*** all
Ali in his prime was practically a light- heavyweight's frame, Lewis would be pumping that pin point jab in his face all night, and picking his booming right hands. Ali would be on the back foot and quite simply would not be able to box his fight !!
Are we forgeting what ali did to foreman? Lewis was nothing compared to ali or foreman. Rocky mate ali would of been simply too quick for lewis.
Sorry to tell you this,  but Lewis was in a different league all together to Foreman when it comes to boxing.  Lewis was not to far behind Foreman with power either. Â
Ali to fast for Lewis ???  Lewis is just a big version of Ali with alot more power.Â
I have heard all the s***e you yanks of got to say and none of you have came up with a realistic way that Ali could beat Lewis.     He would be to fast for him .....    what the f*** does that mean !!
Lewis would have him backing up all night long and picking him off with his big reach advantage, and Ali would not have the power to worry Lewis, it would be a points victory if the carefull Lewis showed up, If the Lewis with something to prove showed up then I expect late stoppage !!
Tell ya,  Lewis was the real deal..    first super heavyweight to use all is advantages to perfection !!
ROCKY i'm just curious whats your excuse for the Klitschko -Lewis fight ...if you even try to say lewis out boxed vitali you didnt see it...AND tehy were both slow....how can you say ""Ali to fast for Lewis ???"  Lewis is just a big version of Ali with alot more power. "
WELL....Ali took risks that Lewis didnt ....if lewis was any kind of version of Ali hed have been more exciting...have you ever seen any Ali fights in there entirety
Whats my excuse for the Lewis-Klitszcho fight ??? Â Â Â Â Why do I need a excuse ???
Lewis was 39 years of age he had already beat the best of his era, so he took on the biggest and toughest up and coming heavyweight from the next era coming up and got a 6 round stoppage and made his face look a mess in the process !! Â But Lewis didn't take any risks did he ....LMAO, Â Â Â if Lewis didn't take any risks why is he beat everyone who was available and was willing to fight him over the last 15 years. Â Also he had 42 fights as a pro, Â thats only because he was winning gold in 88 olympics against Bowe !! Â He didn't turn pro until he was 23, Â same as Holyfield.. Holyfield hasn't had many more fights than Lewis !!
Did you see how slow and crap Ali was at 38 ???
Thats what taking to many risks does for you !!
drGood .... Â Â Lewis not as powerful as Ali ???? Â Â Â Â Â you need to lay off the crack !!
Lewis cant beat Frazier ....LMAO Â
Ken Norton ......LMAO
George Foreman ...... the mummy. Â LMAO
Hey you ask George Foreman himself ...... Â he knows Lewis would of out boxed out gunned and smarted the lot !!
Re: Mike Tyson vs Muhammed ALI
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Originally Posted by means2184
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Originally Posted by ROCKY MARSHMELLOW
Snakey .... you know f*** all
Ali in his prime was practically a light- heavyweight's frame, Lewis would be pumping that pin point jab in his face all night,  and picking his booming right hands.  Ali would be on the back foot and quite simply would not be able to box his fight !!
The 1967 ALI that fought ernie Terrel would beat Lewis anyday (Tyrel was 6'5-6'6) & fought like almost exactly like Lewis (fighting smart using his pinpoint jab & height) ALI won on pouints by hitting his arms when he blocked & out landed him....i have no reason to beleive a fight w/ lewis wouldnt be the same .....
Most definately on the crack, Terrel, come on please stop talking shit, your scraping the fucking barrel you tit !!
Saddo get a grip of these yank fucks will ya !! LOL
