Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%, people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
you never know man, for all we know jmm may knock pac out. I never saw floyd k.oing hatton and you may not see pac outboxing jmm but you got to admit with pacs speed, he could beat jmm to the punch all day. you have to keep in mind too, while pac may not be labled as a good defensive fighter, his body movement helps oppenents discourage from making him back up and its their own risk to come directly towards pac.
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
He was pretty accurate the first time.........more consistency may pull it out? Cough,So if It's not loud enough the first time ,turn It up even more...And walk straight into A gloved up clinical Blender :box3:
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
He was pretty accurate the first time.........more consistency may pull it out? Cough,So if It's not loud enough the first time ,turn It up even more...And walk straight into A gloved up clinical Blender :box3:
You've just answered your own question. Yes, Pac's consistency WILL help him pull it out. So much for a "gloved up clinical blender" for JMM when he fought the one-eye Juarez ey? :-[
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Spicoli Surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
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Originally Posted by zhubin
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
How about Shane Mosley vs ODLH 1 Sweetpea ??
Just watched that fight again recently. Shane was a thing of beauty in that fight. So fast and slick. As far as the Pac vs. JMM fight...it should be a close one. Some people keep mentioning Pac has improved greatly...and he has gotten better. But against MAB...he had a hard time connecting. It was just that Barrera was gun shy. If Marquez can move well and counter sharply...he can win. But if Pac's pressure and youth make Marquez hesitant...Pac will prevail. Should be a great fight.
how did he have a hard time connecting? he landed above 50%,
people are just not yet use to the new pac that settles to box instead of the old dominant aggressive pac. That is the only reason why these lesser fans think he didn't do well, knock out or tko is the only means of a good performance to them. Thats what they will expect since they are only use to seeing that brutal side of pacman. It'll take time til, people realize, he can do a lot more now then just be bucking through oppenents with aggression.
And what you need to realize is that the "new Pac" ain't going to beat Marquez by out-boxing him
Pac is not gonna out-box JMM... fcuk that. That's boring, I saw that against Barrera already. Pac will beat JMM the old fashion way. He'll be more accurate with his power punches this time. We're talking about barage of relentless assaults from him. And that's what I'm expecting for this fight.
He was pretty accurate the first time.........more consistency may pull it out? Cough,So if It's not loud enough the first time ,turn It up even more...And walk straight into A gloved up clinical Blender :box3:
You've just answered your own question. Yes, Pac's consistency WILL help him pull it out. So much for a "gloved up clinical blender" for JMM when he fought the one-eye Juarez ey? :-[
To compare Juarez in any fa cite to Pac is to also believe the earth is flat.Marquez knew exactly how many dimensions Juarez was bringing (0-1) and What to exploit and was switching up aggressor/Boxing modes.I think He can understand that Juarez & Pac are worlds apart and will be in tip top form and know what to expect.Respect is key and He will respect Pac and his offense.Marquez has proven he can exploit Pac's offense and adjust when the time is right.
Beating Juarez the aggressor does not = beating Pac the aggressor,We understand that but last i checked Marquez schooled Juarez and won.How did he get 1 eye ?Pink eye?I think Manny will come out with speed and intensity coming forward...Marquez is very aware of that.I think he wants that.
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
After reading all the arguments in this thread, let me give my humble opinion.
If Pacquaio will do the same thing he had done during the first round of his first battle with Marquez, he will, in very high probability, TKO Marquez around (or even before) the 8th to 10th round.Pacquaio should carefully study what he did to Marquez during that first round. He should do the same thing again. Throw some quick punches then move backwards, that way MArquez won't be able to counter. I think this will be an easy strategy for Pacquaio.
I'm just concerned with how Pacquiao's speed had declined. Many may not have noticed it but Pacquiao had really slowed down (of course, in comparison with his prior performances).IThough compared to Marquez, Pacquiao is still faster. He can use this advantage to counter MArquez. It's like giving Marquez his own dose. That way, PAcquaio will be known as the one of the best counter punchers.
Pacquaio had done the same thing to BArrera. He gave Barrera the taste of how to be defeated using "the technician way".Now he is known as a tactical fighter.
If PAcquaio performs like what he did to Barrera, he will also win by UD.
I believe MArquez will win over PAcquaio if:
1. Pacquaio will be distracted in his training( which is not happening).
2. PAcquaio gets a pneumonia one week before the fight. I just had a pneunomia and its really debilitating.
3. Pacquaio will seriously break some bones in his hand ( hope it does not happen again during the fight).
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For the fans of marquez, please continue fill up the reasons why Marquez will win over Pacquaio. O0
by the way, regarding GAME, he is not a pacquiao hater. He just supports all mexican boxers. He still owes me a bet over PAcquaio vs Barrera but I am not demanding it. He goes crazy supporting his fighters......posters beware.... hehehe;D
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
Bruce,with all due repect,but if you,or anyone else for that matter thinks that Pacman fighting like he did v MAB will beat JMMyou are wrong and it tells me you have not seen much OF JMM. Marquez would box his ears off if Manny tried that. That would allow JMM to set the pace,counter and control the action. No-one or very few fighters control an opponent like Marquez does.
I'm not saying Manny has to be some wild dog and acctack JMM non stop,but if he fights at that lacksidaiscal pace,like he did v Mab,he will lose.
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
I have seen JMM fought MAB and how he fared with MAB. I have also seen how MAB fought Pacquaio. I have also seen how JMM fought Pacquaio before. JMM has not improved since that last fight. I am therefore convinced that Pacquaio using his style against MAB will win over JMM by UD.
I am predicting that pacquaio will be using counter punching against JMM this time. O0
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Marquez already beat Pac once. He'll beat him again. After March 15 I get the feeling a lot of these Pac fans will do like "Yoitsdan" did after Hatton lost. They will stop coming around
Enough said CC Bro.
Re: MAB favouring JMM to win:EM favouring Manny.
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Originally Posted by brucelee
I have seen JMM fought MAB and how he fared with MAB. I have also seen how MAB fought Pacquaio. I have also seen how JMM fought Pacquaio before. JMM has not improved since that last fight. I am therefore convinced that Pacquaio using his style against MAB will win over JMM by UD.
I am predicting that pacquaio will be using counter punching against JMM this time. O0
If he trys to box and play the counter game with Marquez,He'll come up short Bruce.I worry alot about Marquez cutting up.
I do think Marquez has taken unnecessary damage mixing it up alot recently but I see him with the perfect blend with power counters early and as the fight goes along.I think Pac should go right after Marquez and look to blaze him out quickly.......... ;).Hey,Glad its finally happening ;D
