Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
...you forgot to add "...and BARELY WIN"
Oh right I forgot it was a split decision and that was no beating.
Floyd has been given two gifts in his career.
Castillo 1
ODLH 1
It has always been said by the purist if not the purist at heart, that you have to BEAT the champion and Floyd did not beat anything but his puny little chest before and after the fight but during the fight he beat nothing.
I know Cotto can take the Olden one out ;)
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
....I just wish Cotto would have fought Hatton first....it wouldn't have taken so damn long to end the fight.
Floyd is very skilled but why so cocky when there are a plethera of WORTHY fighters at his weight just sitting waiting for him to fight them.
My big issue with Floyd is that he COULD be the greatest, he has the opportunity but he's not taking it. I mean are you telling me having Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Mosley, and other big names on his resume wouldn't solidify his place at the top if he was able to beat those guys??? This is why I think Floyd is more PRIZE and less fighter
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
....I just wish Cotto would have fought Hatton first....it wouldn't have taken so damn long to end the fight.
Floyd is very skilled but why so cocky when there are a plethera of WORTHY fighters at his weight just sitting waiting for him to fight them.
My big issue with Floyd is that he COULD be the greatest, he has the opportunity but he's not taking it. I mean are you telling me having Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Mosley, and other big names on his resume wouldn't solidify his place at the top if he was able to beat those guys??? This is why I think Floyd is more PRIZE and less fighter
Cotto/Hatton would have been a better fight. I mean having to watch Floyd run from Hatton all night and ducking below Hatton's waist the entire fight was a bit over done. Floyd only caught Ricky after Ricky was tired. Cotto would have taken little Ricky out in 5 ;D
I will give credit to Floyd for the knock out but Floyd kept throwing that check hook over and over and over again and he missed a lot. He threw them like hail Mary's (So much for the accurate great one here) If Ricky had not chased Floyd around for 10 rounds it might have been a different fight even more boring ;D Had Ricky not chased Floyd around the ring and into the corners, Ricky would not even have been knocked out. It would have went down as another pretty boring fight by Pretty Boring Floyd.
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
I have plenty of theories of how to fight PBF but no one seems to be able to impliment them other than Miguel Cotto.
Cotto isn't one to get involved in the prefight hype....he's a stone faced killer.
If you're going to push Floyd to the ropes, don't let him turn you OR escape.
If you're trying to stalk him down, take your time, don't rush into anything or he'll counter you...fight at your pace because Floyd let's other fighters control the pace because he hardly ever chooses to engage first.
You HAVE to bully Floyd, foul him, elbow him, take him out of his regular game....don't lose points just do enough to piss him off or scare him....throw him to the ground if he initiates a clinch.
If Cotto hits him on his arms enough, that defense of his will fail and those quick counters either won't be as quick or won't be as hard
Basically you either have to fight like Tommy Hearns or Roberto Duran
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
I have plenty of theories of how to fight PBF but no one seems to be able to impliment them other than Miguel Cotto.
Cotto isn't one to get involved in the prefight hype....he's a stone faced killer.
If you're going to push Floyd to the ropes, don't let him turn you OR escape.
If you're trying to stalk him down, take your time, don't rush into anything or he'll counter you...fight at your pace because Floyd let's other fighters control the pace because he hardly ever chooses to engage first.
You HAVE to bully Floyd, foul him, elbow him, take him out of his regular game....don't lose points just do enough to piss him off or scare him....throw him to the ground if he initiates a clinch.
If Cotto hits him on his arms enough, that defense of his will fail and those quick counters either won't be as quick or won't be as hard
Basically you either have to fight like Tommy Hearns or Roberto Duran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl_l7P5T8qs
Well this basicly explains what Floyd is all about.
He is nothing more than an opportunist
He uses his speed to be tricky. He throws shots when you are not prepared. One of his greatest slick moves is to hit you ASAP after a break. Most fighters pause after a break and that is when Floyd strikes.
He tried and tried to hit Ricky with that hail Mary and after 10 rounds it worked. There was nothing really fancy about Floyd maybe round 5 and 9 other than that, he was shiet ducking below the waist of his opponet the entire fight. Don't chase Floyd so much and he will not look so good either ;D
Funny how Floyd talks about a fighter Cotto destroyed. I know Cotto was caught with a temple shot but Chop chop also had Floyd hurt too. Bottom line is Cotto took Chop Chop out and Floyd couldn't.
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Danny_G
Oscar is not the fighter he once was.
One body shot from Hopkins and that was all she wrote.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/366...ahoya9bvf5.jpg
Cotto who is a pretty good body puncher himself, would go to town on Oscar's soft body.
;D
Little Floyd goes 24 rounds with Oscar.
Cotto takes out Oscar in 7
;)
They're both excellent liver punchers. They have so much power with their left hands coz they're both natural leftys - fighting in conventional stand.
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
I am frankly very sick & tired of Delahypa and his Diva mentality.This guy needs to back the f!!! up and pick a career for s!!! sake already.
Maybe he should enter the election and go for President while he's at it??Egomaniac.
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Lyle
Oscar was attacking and Floyd threw a short hook to the chin and ODH's legs gave a bit....if Floyd makes him do that then Cotto is going to have a field day with him.
If an unknown guy like Torres gave trouble to Cotto with a few punches imagine what ODLH can do. Wasn't Torres the guy that made Cotto dance across the ring with a flurry of punches? Imagine if it was ODLH. Cotto has got rocked or cut in many fights.
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Originally Posted by
Chino
If an unknown guy like Torres gave trouble to Cotto with a few punches imagine what ODLH can do. Wasn't Torres the guy that made Cotto dance across the ring with a flurry of punches? Imagine if it was ODLH. Cotto has got rocked or cut in many fights.
Silly China. Who won that fight?
Sit down.
Torres is a Champion today. Heavy handed kid.
Cotto still went to war. Cotto is a gladiator.
I am not say ODLH isn't. I am saying ODLH is not the same young man he once was and Cotto would eat the old man up.
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Originally Posted by
Chino
Silly Chinita, who won?
UR dis-missed.
;D
Why if this fighter is so flawed, are ODLH and PBF avoiding him today?
FEAR!
ODLH: "My wife wont let me fight anymore Puerto Ricans"
;D
Floyd: "I'm retired. I am a wrestla' now.
;D
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I am dismissed?...*Chino walks out of the room*...*thinks about it and comes back*
Silly Danielle, just shows how Cotto is not as perfect as many want to make him sound. I agree ODLH has shown flaws but so does Cotto. In many of his fights he gets easily cut and even rocked by journeymen. Now, someone made a good pint and I agreed about what would happen if he got hit with a nice body punch, sure, fair enough. But now I make the same question, what would happen if those flurry of punches that rained on Cotto before from different journeymen came from ODLH or Mayweather? See what I mean?
Mayweather and ODLH has faced EVERYONE out there, specially ODLH. Just look at his resume. Waiting for a fighter to make his name more marketable is a smart move to make an extra buck, who wouldn't do that?
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Chino
I am dismissed?...*Chino walks out of the room*...*thinks about it and comes back*
Silly Danielle, just shows how Cotto is not as perfect as many want to make him sound. I agree ODLH has shown flaws but so does Cotto. In many of his fights he gets easily cut and even rocked by journeymen. Now, someone made a good pint and I agreed about what would happen if he got hit with a nice body punch, sure, fair enough. But now I make the same question, what would happen if those flurry of punches that rained on Cotto before from different journeymen came from ODLH or Mayweather? See what I mean?
Mayweather and ODLH has faced EVERYONE out there, specially ODLH. Just look at his resume. Waiting for a fighter to make his name more marketable is a smart move to make an extra buck, who wouldn't do that?
Cotto easily cut? In many of his fights?
When did he start cutting?
Urkal
Urkal head butted Cotto for 11 rounds.
Judah hit him with that sneaky upper that cut him
Head butt with Judah caused a cut
Mosley head butt caused a cut
Lip is still soft from Judah and Cotto will probably still cut but he will still win.
Cotto has only been cut in his last three fights and this only because he has not let his cuts heal. He has been fighting about 4 times a year.
Corley had Mayweather hurt a couple of times. Same journey man that hurt Mayweather hurt Cotto.
Zab Judah gave Floyd a hell of a fight and even knocked Floyd down. Same journey man hurt Cotto a couple of times.
Torres rocked Cotto and Torres has a heavy hand. Torres is a champion today.
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
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Chino
Good point Danny G. Or maybe ODLH will get in the ring with a guy that was made for his style and hits Cotto easily with straights, hooks, jabs, etc. and rocks Cotto just like others already have. Straight-forward boxers have not been a threat for ODLH. Many people wish ODLH the worse, well, get him in the ring with Cotto! They'll be happy to see him loose or they'll end up hating ODLH more when he beats Cotto. Can go either way.
:cool: Hey Chino, i readed some of your thread and i see that you are SPECULATING too much my friend ..... i agree that ODLH is good with the Straight-Forward boxers , but ODLH isnt the same like before , now he is out of his Prime and he changed his style too , if you think that he can fight the same way, when he fought to Trinidad ; believe me that he cant make it , that is why he changed his style with less movement , With less movement do you think that he can hold of Cotto body punches? Dont think that ODLH is the same like before , he get yet a good condition but with Cotto he has less probability for win , im sure about that......:cool:
Re: ODLH want his last fight with Cotto
Every time you see Miguel Cotto cut or bruised, look across the ring.
Each time the other guy has looked three times as bad.