As for your 2% population...your government continues to both appease AND infuriate that population.
Fantastic job my ass! England screwed up everything...way to go England.....way to fucking go.
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As for your 2% population...your government continues to both appease AND infuriate that population.
Fantastic job my ass! England screwed up everything...way to go England.....way to fucking go.
The Brits discovered oil in Iran and the Anglo-Iranian oil company, really the Anglo-Anglo oil company and now BP, used to produce the oil and pay Iran a small percentage. Iran nationalised their oil fields and it wasn't till Eisenhower decided to intervene that the Shah was installed. But that was a US operation. Teddy Roosevelt's grandson, Kermit, was the CIA agent in charge of doing it. He wrote a book about it, which you can still buy. The Brits had almost no input in doing it, nor in screwing up Iran between 1953 and 1979 and the revolution there. Propping up the Shah all those years was a US policy and the US is entirely responsible for the disaster that ensued. Now epic dumbass George W Bush has compounded the problem by handing over to America's mortal enemies the world's second-largest oil reserve in Iraq, something described by an Iranian Ayatollah as a "dream come true."Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Are you seriously trying to claim some sort of victory in our argument? I've been beating you like a gong since we started arguing in this forum and will continue to do so as long as we do. A couple of posts ago you were reduced to claiming that you were fine with the US putting a bunch of terrorists who blew up a US embassy in charge in Iraq.
It isn't Britain that has to worry about being taken over by immigrants :Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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All the Shah's Men - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You got us into it...England fucked up and England left it to the US to fix. You tried to draw us in earlier but Truman didn't buy into your bullshit and Ike did ONLY because Iran was going to seek aid from the USSR because England blockaded Iran and left their economy hurting BECAUSE BP is a bunch of tight asses and they were looking to screw over the Iranians from the get go. How is that NOT your fault? How can you not see how you specifically drew the United States into this mess and NOW you're bitching about it which is absolutely ridiculous.
Mexicans don't suicide bomb us brother and they are mainly Catholics and their culture is closer to the Western culture than the radical islamic people you guys grow in your country.
You've been beaten AGAIN, give up
Are you seriously trying to argue that Britain controls American foreign policy?Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleAll the Shah's Men - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You got us into it...England fucked up and England left it to the US to fix. You tried to draw us in earlier but Truman didn't buy into your bullshit and Ike did ONLY because Iran was going to seek aid from the USSR because England blockaded Iran and left their economy hurting BECAUSE BP is a bunch of tight asses and they were looking to screw over the Iranians from the get go. How is that NOT your fault? How can you not see how you specifically drew the United States into this mess and NOW you're bitching about it which is absolutely ridiculous.
Mexicans don't suicide bomb us brother and they are mainly Catholics and their culture is closer to the Western culture than the radical islamic people you guys grow in your country.
You've been beaten AGAIN, give up
I'm sure you'll get on famously in the Estados Unidos.
No England doesn't CONTROL but you do AFFECT US foreign policy by doing stupid crap like blockading Iran and forcing them to seek the help of another nation (one not allied with England) to fix the problem (so the obvious solution to Iran was the USSR and no one could afford THEM having the oil then). Do you see the connection or are you THAT slow?
During the Cold War the US and England well hell, ever since the end of the War of 1812 the US and England have basically been tied at the hip....so whatever YOU get into, WWI, WWII, etc WE have to help out and then you go and BITCH about how we drug you into Iraq...BIG FUCKING DEAL you deserve some of this after all England has done in the past.
As for the Mexicans, they are still the minority and we don't cater to them, they cater to us....which is why you don't see me painting houses or doing landscaping
How did Iran get Russia to "fix" their problem in a way that necessitated the US getting involved?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
They were GOING to get help from communists...this was the very begining of the Cold War you do realize this right?
What would happen had the USSR been given the frinedship to the biggest oil producers???? Well the US and UK would be SOL that's what would freaking happen!
And who caused this to be an issue????? ENGLAND admit your guilt!
Russia and Iran have a history dating back centuries. What could Russia have done to "fix" Iran's problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
MIDDLE OF THE COLD WAR!
Just the thought of the USSR controlling vast amounts of oil and cozying up to Iran would obviously drive the immaginations wild in a very VERY bad way.
England knew what was going to happen and they needed America to help them out and low and behold the "Oh my God they are turning commie!" drum that the Brits were beating got Ike to get involved. When you guys just wanted to keep your big money and keep screwing the Iranians which is what Harry Truman saw and he turned you down.
Face it, England caused all this trouble and America has kept on screwing it up once you passed the problem on to us
How would Russia control Iran's oil?
If you don't understand that Russia would get a huge deal (bargain price oil) by helping Iran while they were blockaded by the British then what can I say....you're a retard.
The USSR have been a net exporter of oil since before WW2. That means they produce more than they use and sell the rest. Iran historically didn't get on too well with Russia and would have made a deal with the Brits rather than deal with the Russians. Iran have to export their oil via the Persian gulf and would have had no alternative but to eventually negotiate. The US didn't wait and overthrew their democratically elected government, then went on an ovethrowing-governments spree in the rest of the world. So this was just one small part of an overarching picture of US imperialism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
OK the idea of Iran being Communist and in cahoots with Russia would make America nervous and England sold that to the US and the US had to intervene.
You're still at fault
So you're back to claiming Britain dictates US foreign policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
The reason the US intervened was that your new president wanted Iran and its oil to remain in the western sphere of influence and so overthrew the government. Nothing whatsoever to do with th Brits asking America to do it.