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Then I guessed you cleared that up for me ;)Quote:
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I sure did ;)Quote:
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Hatton won one round; he was dominated it was very similar to the calzhage Lacy just not as one sided.
But a display of pure skill!
Sorry Brits, but Hatton proved more negative than positive in the fight against Floyd. He got KO'd by what I consider a non power puncher in Mayweather (of course, a well placed punch can KO anyone) and he proved his boxing ability is not very good (no jab, leads with his head, etc).
I think it was more of an accumulation then anything...Hatton was getting tagged often towards the end....What Ricky needs to learn is that he does not need to come forward every single secondQuote:
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnI think it was more of an accumulation then anything...Hatton was getting tagged often towards the end....What Ricky needs to learn is that he does not need to come forward every single secondQuote:
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Hatton has said on endless occasions that the build up went perfect, the in ring walk was fine and he was as pumped up as ever to fight, but....
within 5seconds of the fight getting going cortez stepped in between the 2 fighters for no apparent reason and hattons immediate reaction in his words not mine were..
"fuck this is not good"
For the remainder of the fight cortez remained all over hatton and his fight plan despite the fact he allowed hatton to get away with the very same tactics during the castillo fight and as shown during hopkins-calzaghe seemed to have no problems with the 2 grappling up close.
At one point joe told the 2 to "stop talking or i`ll take points off of the both of you" ????????
have you ever heard something so absurd.
Mayweather slouched at every opportunity yet hatton got persistently penalised for carrying on fighting despite the fact it was floyds fault for not protecting himself.
He went over to the hatton corner at the end of round 8 and told them he was considering stopping the fight despite the fact hatton at the time was well in the fight albeit losing it, but still well in it.
The ring was widened to suit mayweather, the judges appointed by mayweathers promotional team, as soon as cortez also decided to aide floyd the fight was as good as over.
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Agree RIP corrales he was one tough cooky i think he would have given Rick a fight to remember in fact i could see him taking Ricks 0 ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepThat's a bit of a stretch, to say anyone would have "no problems" against Corrales is a statement of someone that never watched his fights aside from maybe the Mayweather one.Quote:
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnI think it was more of an accumulation then anything...Hatton was getting tagged often towards the end....What Ricky needs to learn is that he does not need to come forward every single secondQuote:
Originally Posted by Rican
Hatton has said on endless occasions that the build up went perfect, the in ring walk was fine and he was as pumped up as ever to fight, but....
within 5seconds of the fight getting going cortez stepped in between the 2 fighters for no apparent reason and hattons immediate reaction in his words not mine were..
"fuck this is not good"
For the remainder of the fight cortez remained all over hatton and his fight plan despite the fact he allowed hatton to get away with the very same tactics during the castillo fight and as shown during hopkins-calzaghe seemed to have no problems with the 2 grappling up close.
At one point joe told the 2 to "stop talking or i`ll take points off of the both of you" ????????
have you ever heard something so absurd.
Mayweather slouched at every opportunity yet hatton got persistently penalised for carrying on fighting despite the fact it was floyds fault for not protecting himself.
He went over to the hatton corner at the end of round 8 and told them he was considering stopping the fight despite the fact hatton at the time was well in the fight albeit losing it, but still well in it.
The ring was widened to suit mayweather, the judges appointed by mayweathers promotional team, as soon as cortez also decided to aide floyd the fight was as good as over.
The fact Cortez was lousy in that fight has not been denied by anyone...Be it the sternest PBF or Hatton fans....Still though...Point is Hatton was not KO'd by one shot as some would like to make out...He was getting caught a lot...
I am not going to say Hatton would have beaten Mayweather but it would have been a bit more in his favor with a guy like Smoger who allows guys to get in and fight
Just before you all start bad repping me the fight never happened love Rick to bits big fan!!! but the old Rick where he used his skills i still hand on heart think he would have struggled with Chico;D
So the sole source of your reasoning is the excuses of the man himself? Whenever Joe allowed the clinches for any period of time Floyd was getting the better of it.Quote:
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnI think it was more of an accumulation then anything...Hatton was getting tagged often towards the end....What Ricky needs to learn is that he does not need to come forward every single secondQuote:
Originally Posted by Rican
Hatton has said on endless occasions that the build up went perfect, the in ring walk was fine and he was as pumped up as ever to fight, but....
within 5seconds of the fight getting going cortez stepped in between the 2 fighters for no apparent reason and hattons immediate reaction in his words not mine were..
"fuck this is not good"
For the remainder of the fight cortez remained all over hatton and his fight plan despite the fact he allowed hatton to get away with the very same tactics during the castillo fight and as shown during hopkins-calzaghe seemed to have no problems with the 2 grappling up close.
At one point joe told the 2 to "stop talking or i`ll take points off of the both of you" ????????
have you ever heard something so absurd.
Mayweather slouched at every opportunity yet hatton got persistently penalised for carrying on fighting despite the fact it was floyds fault for not protecting himself.
He went over to the hatton corner at the end of round 8 and told them he was considering stopping the fight despite the fact hatton at the time was well in the fight albeit losing it, but still well in it.
The ring was widened to suit mayweather, the judges appointed by mayweathers promotional team, as soon as cortez also decided to aide floyd the fight was as good as over.
Hatton is thoroughly outclassed by Mayweather every single day of the week, FACT. Does this make Hatton a joke fighter? of course not, he's a very good fighter and still no.1 in his division (though not undisputed).
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Thanks mate i also think he would have struggled with the same Castillo that fought Chico!!!!!Quote:
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Originally Posted by chipThanks mate i also think he would have struggled with the same Castillo that fought Chico!!!!!Quote:
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Agreed...
Funny you say that becasue just yesterday somewhere on this thread I think it was...I said that The version that Hatton beat of Castillo and the version of Castillo just 2 or so years before IMO would have beaten Hatton
Before any of you start using the Hatton was at 147 excuse for the reason he lost.
Do you think that fight would have been any different at 140?
Anyway yes Hatton belongs in the ring with Mayweather. Mayweather is the top elite, Hatton belongs with the elite but we dont know "how elite" he is. A fight with someone good at 140 could answer that. Like the winner of Witter Bradley which isnt a given
The thing that gets me is that everyone talks about how Ricky was able to hang with Mayweather.
Why don't they talk about how Mayweather was able to deal with adversity, pressure and adapted to Hatton's style and started to take over the fight.
Mayweather is the type of fighter where people who don't like him only talk about what his opponent did well up until Mayweather beat him.
You don't hear anyone talking about how Mayweather adapted changed up and eventually started dominating Hatton after the mid rounds.
But you hear how Hatton "hung in there" with him. I don't get it sometimes.
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Mayweather didnt have to adapt to hatton, he had cortez making sure that at no point would he be forced into fighting hattons "phonebox fight" that has worked for ricky so often in the past.
You take away hattons ability to punch away on the inside and you take away the guys main attribute, hatton has never been any good boxing on the outside in the fight as got clearly shown when he fought collazo and was forced to hang on for dear life in the end because luis got his tactics spot on and was able make hatton chase him for 12rounds.
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Im not saying hatton lost the fight because of all these factors. Mayweather was simply too good for him on the night and unfortunately for ricky as soon as he got deducted points and was being informed that he was losing in a big way from about 6 onwards he went chasing the fight, something he is has never had to do in his career before.
Anyone that attempts to over commit against a world class athlete like PBF is always gonna be in danger of getting knocked out and thats what happened to ricky.
My argument is though that on another day, with a reasonably sized ring and a ref that actually allows the 2 to fight ricky can beat floyd - i believe that in my heart of hearts.
As for corrales beating hatton?
not a chance if you ask me, ricky would be way too busy and force diego into fighting a fight he isnt used to, UD for hatton