Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
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Tam Seddon
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Tam Seddon
you'll see he will be up there. He will make this one hell of a fight for Taylor. Its alrite you all saying his defence will be exposed, but when has it ever been a problem? ive never seen him being truely hurt before or nearly touching the mat. Its his presence and his range that is a great form of defence for Froch. His footwork is underrated too, he knows when hes in touble he can get out of there quick. The range will be a lot harder for Taylor than he expects. If he gets problems off two small lightmiddleweights, I am expecting many problems from a natural 168 fighter who is greatly up for the fight!
It hasn't ever been a problem. Which hurts Froch's chances even moreso because he'll have no idea how to deal with it when he gets in with Taylor and it's a HUGE one. Your basically saying the less experienced fighter isn't at a disadvantage because noone's ever hurt him before, or made him change his game plan. Well duh, that's the point. Taylor has been in with a magnitude of world class talent, and many different styles. He's been hit hard, and lost rounds. He's had to adjust and learn in the ring in basically every big fight he's been in. Froch has never met a single opponent he couldn't just plow over with looping telegraphed shots. Never had to even think about using any real ring craft. I see giving him a punchers chance against Taylor, but nothing more. It's obvious Taylor is the better fighter.
But you cold say exactly the same thing for Froch that when he fights Taylor he can adapt to his style. Carl has made it clearly evident that he belongs with the world fighters and this is the step up he needs. Hes not taking any easy routes he is going straight for the best fighters and you will see hes ready for this step up IMO. I do thing skill wise Taylor is better and has more expereince. But this is 168 were the power is a lot more of a factor than merely just speed. Froch is powerful, more powerful than Taylor. Taylor shows when the going gets tough hes in for it. Carl knows how to apply decent pressure and I can really see Taylor getting tierd down the stretch like he has done in a lot of his fights recently. Froch aint no winky wright or Kasim ouma, if he sees a knock he isnt going to stop. If taylor can handle his pressure he has a good chance of winning, but hes going to get in trouble at least once in the fight, and I think that will be enough for Froch to finish him off.
The thing is you are just speculating as to how good Froch is, or whether he'll have the ability to adapt, as well as how hard he hits. We KNOW Taylor is a world class fighter. Big difference.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
Taylor can't afford to lose this one.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
Looks like Taylor is going to fight Jeff Lacy.
So another bum for Froch (Shock!) na being serious Miranda is ranked 5th by the WBC so i would hope if Taylor does duck Froch for Lacy why not put Froch in with miranda and the winners face off for the belt.
Miranda is ranked 5th by the (W)e (B)e (C)rap with za ranking systems.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
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Markusdarkus
Looks like Taylor is going to fight Jeff Lacy.
So another bum for Froch (Shock!) na being serious Miranda is ranked 5th by the WBC so i would hope if Taylor does duck Froch for Lacy why not put Froch in with miranda and the winners face off for the belt.
Miranda is ranked 5th by the (W)e (B)e (C)rap with za ranking systems.
Lacy is scheduled to fight Epifanio Mendoza.
Epifanio Mendoza
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
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hitmandonny
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Markusdarkus
Looks like Taylor is going to fight Jeff Lacy.
So another bum for Froch (Shock!) na being serious Miranda is ranked 5th by the WBC so i would hope if Taylor does duck Froch for Lacy why not put Froch in with miranda and the winners face off for the belt.
Miranda is ranked 5th by the (W)e (B)e (C)rap with za ranking systems.
Lacy is scheduled to fight Epifanio Mendoza.
Epifanio Mendoza
The WBC belt wont become available until October 1st when Calzaghe will be stripped.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
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Markusdarkus
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hitmandonny
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Markusdarkus
Looks like Taylor is going to fight Jeff Lacy.
So another bum for Froch (Shock!) na being serious Miranda is ranked 5th by the WBC so i would hope if Taylor does duck Froch for Lacy why not put Froch in with miranda and the winners face off for the belt.
Miranda is ranked 5th by the (W)e (B)e (C)rap with za ranking systems.
Lacy is scheduled to fight Epifanio Mendoza.
Epifanio Mendoza
The WBC belt wont become available until October 1st when Calzaghe will be stripped.
How do you figure that one out?
The WBC have called for bids by 25th for the title.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
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Clanger
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The WBC belt wont become available until October 1st when Calzaghe will be stripped.
How do you figure that one out?
The WBC have called for bids by 25th for the title.
Yer purse bids on the 25th of July then allow 12wks for promotion and training. Calzaghe has the end of September to decide what to do he may do it earlier he might not Froch has pissed him off enough so he may hold out.
There is a letter from the WBC to team calzaghe floating about.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
Froch-Taylor is a good match. I'd love to see Carl win a world title, no one has waited more patiently for one. Hopefully he can win, If JT performs anything like he did against Spinks, Ouma he could get beat. Froch is also determined and confident. However JT done well against Pavlik in their second fight at sup-middle and has faced much better opposotion than Froch. He's proven his class by beating Hopkins twice too. I'm leaning towards Taylor but would love Froch to win.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
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Froch-Taylor is a good match. I'd love to see Carl win a world title, no one has waited more patiently for one. Hopefully he can win, If JT performs anything like he did against Spinks, Ouma he could get beat. Froch is also determined and confident. However JT done well against Pavlik in their second fight at sup-middle and has faced much better opposotion than Froch. He's proven his class by beating Hopkins twice too. I'm leaning towards Taylor but would love Froch to win.
I agree i find a lot of peeps from the UK highly uner-rate Taylors skills as a fighter.
I would love to see Froch win but Taylor is a massive step up in class no doubt.
Taylor UD imo.
Re: Jones Joe andFroch V Taylor!!
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Markusdarkus
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Clanger
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Markusdarkus
The WBC belt wont become available until October 1st when Calzaghe will be stripped.
How do you figure that one out?
The WBC have called for bids by 25th for the title.
Yer purse bids on the 25th of July then allow 12wks for promotion and training. Calzaghe has the end of September to decide what to do he may do it earlier he might not Froch has pissed him off enough so he may hold out.
There is a letter from the WBC to team calzaghe floating about.
It's pretty much irrelevant.
Calzaghe doesn't care about the WBC belt.
He didn't care about the belt while he was campaigning at 168 for all those years.
And he certainly doesn't care now that he's campaigning a weight above, holding the ring belt.