Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!

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Originally Posted by LondonBB

My thoughts on it:

He can never gain respect from the haters.

The haters are just that, HATERS! They will hate him whatever he does.

1. He fights lacy, the haters are screaming how lacy will bash him out the ring, he batters him.

2. He fights kessler, the haters are relishing the thought of kessler outboxing and overwhelming calzaghe, calzaghe nullifies him and finishes it with ease.

3. He fights hopkins (the same hopkins who bashed the sh1t out of pavlik, tarver and wright), the haters say he will get ko'd by hopkins, he has hopkins gassing for air after the 8th round and wins the fight.

Even if you take away his other career wins, take away the fact he is the longest champion in the history of the sport still boxing today, take away the fact hes a 2 weight champ, and just look at those 3 things...NORMALLY its enough for any true boxing fan to say 'yeah hes a wicked fighter.'

But the fact remains, they dont.

The reason for this is very sad.

Instead of being 'reasonable' and 'balanced' people and saying 'i dont like calzaghes style because he is too unorthadox and i dont like his swinging punches, but you have to give him respect for what hes achieved' (any true boxing fan would say this)...they just hate him.

Im relishing the prospect of seeing the haters sitting at home cursing their tv screens when they see calzaghe coming into the ring against jones, the haters praying from calzaghe to lose...but once again, like very single time he has ever been doubted, he'll win!

And then as predicted, we will have the same threads all over again and again, the same people saying how they still dont rate calzaghe (as predicted), over and over again lol.

To be honest, as for the way he fights, id much rather see him go all out against jones and drop him.

Everyone has said that theres a prospect that 'calzaghe could look good enough to maybe have done well against jones at his peak'...

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA its as if even if calzaghe wins, it automatically still means that jones was better at his peak PMSL, JOKERS!

If calzaghe wins then it means that of course he couldve given a peak roy jones a run for his money.

If calzaghe easily wins then it means HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BEAT A PEAK ROY JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

But...it all means nothing, calzaghe will fight jones and win, then he might have one more fight...possibly a rematch against hopkins and win again.

But even if calzaghe beats jones and hopkins (twice) then the haters will still say that they are better than him...WHAT BACKWARDS WAY OF THINKING IS THAT? LOL!

The guy cant do anything to gain respect from haters. AND THATS EXACTLY WHY I SUPPORT HIM!

Because i love to see the same people get silenced time and time again, then come up with more excuses and arguments lol.

When you look at the facts they are plain and simple:

If calzaghe beats jones then the guy is 48,0,0 anyone who cant respect that is a bit of a muppet really arent they?

Hes beaten hopkins (THE SAME OLD HOPKINS WHO HAS HAD HIS BEST CAREER WINS EVER AT THIS AGE, BASHING UP WRIGHT, TARVER AND PAVLIK), eubank, lacy, reid and kessler...soon to be jones.

Undefeated champ for over 11 years.

2 weight champ.

People will keep hating him, but the bottom line is that he will go down in history as a legend, esspecially after he bashes roy jones, we will then know exactly WHY ROY JONES AVOIDED HIM!

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good post ;D

yo Dark Lord RJJ missed too many big fights in my opinion think jury is out on him being an ATG

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Originally Posted by Drago

yo Dark Lord RJJ missed too many big fights in my opinion think jury is out on him being an ATG

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Thats a very small jury then;)

Jury is out on Roy Jones been an all time great LOL!;D ive heard it all now.

Not have the Jones fight
This is not a slam on Joe
Roy's done,its more on Roy. If Joe hadnt been chasing him for 10 years now, this fight wouldnt be happening.
10 years ago, this would have been a really interesting fight.
But it isnt 10 years ago.
If Roy somehow finds a gear,I dont think he has anymore, then it will get compelling

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Originally Posted by RozzySean

I'm not a Calzaghe hater, but I'm certainly a bit of critic when it comes to him being over protected and being a total slapper for the the last 4 years or so. I give him plenty of respect for the Kessler fight, and beating Hopkins, even if just barely. 43 or not, Hopkins is still one of the best in the world. He's the Nolan Ryan of boxing.

How much credit he gets in MY book depends somewhat depends on how Jones looks and how he goes into the fight mentally. Jones has looked progressively better since Tarver 3, and he's improved some technical flaws that he used to mask with almost godlike reflexes. He still has his handspeed and some tools that could give Joe problems. If Jones looks good, and Calzaghe still beats him clearly, it'll give him credit. I think Jones actually has a chance in this fight, because I don't think he will go in afraid of getting hit and that will allow him to open up.

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I echo this sentiment. Only to add, if RJJ looks good for the first 2/3 of the fight and then Calzaghe knocks him out, well, that would be definitely make me think twice.

Of course, like him or not, he deserves credit. He is a special talent.

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Originally Posted by Drago

yo Dark Lord RJJ missed too many big fights in my opinion think jury is out on him being an ATG

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Are you high ???

I guess Joe Louis's bum of the month club and Marcianos beating of aging champions nolonger in their prime would have to rip them out of the ATG catagory as well:rolleyes:

We the fans supply all the funds to the fighters.
So basically the only thing that sickens us more than a fighter stepping through a hand picked opposition with one goal in mind ,is to then choose the correct timing to fight the ones you stepped over previously when they were hot and fireing.

All credit to all the fighters who go all out to fight the biggest threats,because personally they just have to know.
Those are the real warriors even if they lose a few.

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

Jury is out on Roy Jones been an all time great LOL!;D ive heard it all now.

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yeah think i was gettin into this thread to much, apologise

one of the most hyped i ever been for a fight was when RJJ met Toney

Teath did you say that Calzaghe was on the level of Oscar and Mosley but not that of Roy and Bernard but i say this to you dude. Oscar did just as much and fought way better competion then Roy and Bernard did. Even if you take his loses in to acount which were close he still has more wins over former champions and champs as Roy and Bernard do and has a better resume then both of them on who he has fought Shane Mosley is close as well he fought and beat just as good of fighter as well. So by saying Calzaghe is along the lines of Oscar saying better then Jones and Bernard because they are in the same boat as Oscar is.

Just wanted to point that out when you were comparing Calzaghe to the other greats think you have it off but thats just me.

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Originally Posted by Andre

We the fans supply all the funds to the fighters.
So basically the only thing that sickens us more than a fighter stepping through a hand picked opposition with one goal in mind ,is to then choose the correct timing to fight the ones you stepped over previously when they were hot and fireing.

All credit to all the fighters who go all out to fight the biggest threats,because personally they just have to know.
Those are the real warriors even if they lose a few.

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this sums up JC. I give him respect for the kessler fight, but on hindsight I don't see lacy as anything other than another amir khan. which is to say green and waiting to be exposed. also the height disadvantage (something carl froch mentioned when questioned about the ashira fight) makes the win a foregone conclusion. against BH, he just manages to outlast him and gets knockdown in the fight. BH isn't even known as a puncher, which makes you wonder if JC wasn't so protected what his stats would look like.

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Originally Posted by Hume

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Originally Posted by Andre

We the fans supply all the funds to the fighters.
So basically the only thing that sickens us more than a fighter stepping through a hand picked opposition with one goal in mind ,is to then choose the correct timing to fight the ones you stepped over previously when they were hot and fireing.

All credit to all the fighters who go all out to fight the biggest threats,because personally they just have to know.
Those are the real warriors even if they lose a few.

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this sums up JC. I give him respect for the kessler fight, but on hindsight I don't see lacy as anything other than another amir khan. which is to say green and waiting to be exposed. also the height disadvantage (something carl froch mentioned when questioned about the ashira fight) makes the win a foregone conclusion. against BH, he just manages to outlast him and gets knockdown in the fight. BH isn't even known as a puncher, which makes you wonder if JC wasn't so protected what his stats would look like.

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The Hopkins Knockdown was a flash knockdown, caught him cold. Yeh it was a good shot and JC was sloppy, but he got straight up and was fine. Calzaghe has taken some huge shots in his career and although he has been down 3 times? (in 45 fights) he has never been in serious trouble. Can't really question his chin. And as for been protected, what fighters fighting at SMW between 1997 & 2006 was he protected from?

u know there isnt one fighter out there that calzaghe can beat that would get him respect from the haters

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Originally Posted by Drago

u know there isnt one fighter out there that calzaghe can beat that would get him respect from the haters

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You Calzaghe whiners are as bad as the haters... I like Joe.

There's as much hating on Joe as there is people bitching about respect.