Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
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ono
Imo it was nowhere near as disgraceful as Jones - Trinidad. A fight designed to make Roy Jones good enough to get in the ring with Calzaghe.
Calzaghe - Jones 8 or so years ago would have been fantastically competitive.
Just accept that the excitement generated by last nights fight was purely 'has Jones got one last big performance in him'
The answer was no. Simple as.
They'll both go down as 2 of the best super-middleweights of all time. It's a shame their careers have come to an end. I'm more disappointed about that to be honest.
Ono i actually stopped watching the fight properly after about 10 rounds, thats never happened to me before. This fight was just total rubbish and a farce IMO.
It was like watching Muhammad Ali vs Larry Holmes, but it felt more like a circus to me as i've said already in a few threads.
Where was RJJ desire to give it one last shot ? and let it all hang out ? all he did was throw one punch at a time, and even when he might of stunned Joe Calzaghe. He never even went in for the kill, he has no killer instinct what so ever anymore.
And Joe Calzaghe's taunting was ridiculous, i don't mind some taunting in a fight. But he done it constantly and it just seemed like he was totally disrespecting a once great fighter RJJ. And what annoyed me more is RJJ let him do it, and never tried to counter Joe Calzaghe who was wide open and very hittable.
Im very disappointed i stayed up all that time, had my friends over and my girl. I was rooting for RJJ all the way even though i felt Joe Calzaghe was the favorite obviously.
And i get rewarded with a garbage fight like this, i knew RJJ was shot but i thought he would atleast try to win. But all he was there for was the paycheck which was obvious.
It felt like some freak exhibition fight to me Ono, very disappointing and sad for us fans.
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
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ono
Imo it was nowhere near as disgraceful as Jones - Trinidad. A fight designed to make Roy Jones good enough to get in the ring with Calzaghe.
Calzaghe - Jones 8 or so years ago would have been fantastically competitive.
Just accept that the excitement generated by last nights fight was purely 'has Jones got one last big performance in him'
The answer was no. Simple as.
They'll both go down as 2 of the best super-middleweights of all time. It's a shame their careers have come to an end. I'm more disappointed about that to be honest.
Ono i actually stopped watching the fight properly after about 10 rounds, thats never happened to me before. This fight was just total rubbish and a farce IMO.
It was like watching Muhammad Ali vs Larry Holmes, but it felt more like a circus to me as i've said already in a few threads.
Where was RJJ desire to give it one last shot ? and let it all hang out ? all he did was throw one punch at a time, and even when he might of stunned Joe Calzaghe. He never even went in for the kill, he has no killer instinct what so ever anymore.
And Joe Calzaghe's taunting was ridiculous, i don't mind some taunting in a fight. But he done it constantly and it just seemed like he was totally disrespecting a once great fighter RJJ. And what annoyed me more is RJJ let him do it, and never tried to counter Joe Calzaghe who was wide open and very hittable.
Im very disappointed i stayed up all that time, had my friends over and my girl. I was rooting for RJJ all the way even though i felt Joe Calzaghe was the favorite obviously.
And i get rewarded with a garbage fight like this, i knew RJJ was shot but i thought he would atleast try to win. But all he was there for was the paycheck which was obvious.
It felt like some freak exhibition fight to me Ono, very disappointing and sad for us fans.
Yeah maybe you're right. I do agree to an extent. It's like when i think about i'll always seperate this fight from their legacies. Like this fight didn't count.
It just had the same feel that Jones - Trinidad had to be honest. It was interesting early on but Jones couldn't sustain anything. I was rooting for Roy but he only ever threatened to show flashes of his brilliance. The taunting got a bit silly, but they were both at it. Calzaghe more so, but it's not like Jones hasn't done it before.
I got more annoyed with Bunce and McGuigan bigging up the performance. Yes he was quite good, but we knew he was quite good......45-0 already tells me that.
I'd have loved the fight to have happened about 6 or 7 years ago. Would have been a great fight.
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
fair play to joe, great win, i agree the showboating was over the top but i think he saw it as putting on a show because roy wasnt going to make it a classic, i think both should retire now nothing for either to prove.
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
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I agree, it was a shit fight. By the way Calzaghe really showed how much of a slapper he is in this fight, that disgusted me actually. Good on ya calzaghe fans and joe calzaghe, i was wrong. But really if anything that was a poor performance.
Well it was enough to give jones the worst cut of his career and had him rocked and yes you were wrong so appologise and
pull it out of jones ass. all you jones lovers always have an exuse for his poor performances granted he is unique and he was a super talent but whos fault is it that he dont want to quit even after his devastating knock out losses.
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
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Phil
fair play to joe, great win, i agree the showboating was over the top but i think he saw it as putting on a show because roy wasnt going to make it a classic, i think both should retire now nothing for either to prove.
very good point Phil . never thought of that
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
I haven't read the first five pages, maybe I will at some point.
Either way this was the most predictable "big" fight ever. Ever. Fact. Granted its easier to predict a fight when you give fuck all about either guy.
I think I'll let that be my first and only fact.
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Ok Floyd-Gatti was maybe more predictable. Obviously the fact expression is not for me.
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
I actually thought Calzaghe's showboating was pure comedy. The dance he did at the end of the 3rd has to be made into a gif.
He utterly destroyed and dominated Jones. He was better in every department. Take away the first round it was like Lacy all over again.
Awesome performance by Joe.
Though I still hate him :p
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
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leftylee
I actually thought Calzaghe's showboating was pure comedy. The dance he did at the end of the 3rd has to be made into a gif.
He utterly destroyed and dominated Jones. He was better in every department. Take away the first round it was like Lacy all over again.
Awesome performance by Joe.
Though I still hate him :p
Ive done it on the "who beats Calzaghe " thread .
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
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leftylee number 1 groupie
I honestly couldn't watch it all, it was like i was watching a glorifed sparring session. And a dancing show all at once, first off RJJ's performance uhh where the hell was it ?
He would just throw single punches all the time, and just allow Joe Calzaghe too hold his hands down when he is 2 inches away from him. I was screaming at the screen just bloody hit him RJJ for goodness sake.
Joe Calzaghe was so wide open i can't believe RJJ didn't take those openings, and secondly all of Joe Calzaghes taunting was just ridiculous. It was like watching a clown in the ring, he done it in every round and in every minute of the round.
And the action was like a sparring session, RJJ would hit Joe Calzaghe with single punches every now and again. And then Joe Calzaghe would come wadding in landing mostly slapping punches to the body.
This may sound like sour grapes but im very disappointed, in both boxers. RJJ didn't even try to win the fight after the 1st round, and Joe Calzaghe's constant taunting dancing whatever you want to call it. Was just ridiculous to watch, this fight was not a good fight for boxing at all a disgrace IMO.
Agreed.
Roy Jones Jr. should be ashamed of himself for not showing up to fight or win.
Calzaghe should be ashamed of himself for his constant ridicilous taunting and behaving like that. No respect. No class.
The fight sucked. And years from now should not be looked upon as any kind of great accomplishment for Calzaghe or for boxing.
Roy is done. The killer instinct is gone. its been gone. And without it he cannot win at the elite level. The reflexes are not there anymore either, least not enough.
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I don't know why people are so mad at Roy, he's done, he's been done, this was clear a long time ago.
If anything I guess you could be mad at him for taking the fight but there wasn't a whole lot he could do after that.
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
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leftylee number 1 groupie
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Cock.
Neg. rep for the fanboy response. How about addressing some of the seemingly valid points he made?
Don't bother i know his kind i respect Joe Calzaghe as a fighter, and i think he has great skills. But it really was sad watching this fight, i think we the fans missed out big time. Certainly not what i would call a championship fight.
the fight should have happend eight years ago whenn rjj still had some killer insticnt
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
The speed difference was massive. Calzaghe did anything he wanted to.
Re: Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.
Was this a case of Jones being past his prime or a over hyped fighter? Jones has made a career of fighting class c and d fighters. It really hard to tell how great he was. Never fought enough good fighters to tell. We do know Calzaghe beat his ass and maybe could have done the same thing in his prime.