I have come to realize...

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Originally Posted by Lyle

So congress is now calling for the Fed to be reined in but did they or did they not vote to bail out companies only AFTER putting in a little pork just to win some more votes over.


Oh it's mighty scary how much power the Fed Chairman wields now. But to not give any blame to the people that voted for these big bail outs is wrong.

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It isn't wrong at all, it's exactly right. The original proposal Bush sent Congress was a one page document that gave the Bush Treasury total control over the $700 billion with zero congressional oversight and immunity from prosecution should there be any corruption in spending the 700. Congress eventually passed a far better bill for the taxpayer than the GOP originally wanted. And Congress was forced to pass the bailout bill because Bush had fucked the economy up to such an extent it was in danger of total meltdown. If they hadn't passed anything we'd already be facing a Depression, as it is we may still avoid one.

But let's lay the blame where it belongs Lyle. The Democrats had nothing to do with this, this is all Bush's fault.

...whatever, it's your problem now captain

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Originally Posted by Lyle

...whatever, it's your problem now captain

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It's not my problem at all. Nothing to dow ith me.

OK it's the democrat's problem now....is that better???

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Originally Posted by Lyle

OK it's the democrat's problem now....is that better???

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I thought the GOP were the party of personal responsibility?

Correct but they aren't in power and therefore cannot do anything about the current situation now can they?

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Correct but they aren't in power and therefore cannot do anything about the current situation now can they?

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They were in power except for the last two years though,and even losing congress,they still held both the legislative and judicial branches,which would make that two out of three branches of the US goverment,you dont get to wiggle out of it that easy Lyle,its your mess,wear it with pride or shame,however you see fit.

man those shows fucking suck, big brother, get me out of here, make a cunt of your self in front of the wrold and try to sing or dance bla bla

shit the only time id ever watch one is if they done a Saw type thing and it was real, where people had to actualy fuck eachother up to get free and live (and then they get shot or sumin when the think they are free)

now that would be fucking good and worth watching.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

They were in power except for the last two years though,and even losing congress,they still held both the legislative and judicial branches,which would make that two out of three branches of the US goverment,you dont get to wiggle out of it that easy Lyle,its your mess,wear it with pride or shame,however you see fit.

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The judges #1 Aren't classified as Republican or Democrat and #2 Aren't involved in law making unless the law/bill conflicts with the Constitution.

Thank you Preme for getting us back on track

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

They were in power except for the last two years though,and even losing congress,they still held both the legislative and judicial branches,which would make that two out of three branches of the US goverment,you dont get to wiggle out of it that easy Lyle,its your mess,wear it with pride or shame,however you see fit.

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The judges #1 Aren't classified as Republican or Democrat and #2 Aren't involved in law making unless the law/bill conflicts with the Constitution.

Thank you Preme for getting us back on track

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I thought they were allowed to interpret the law.
I mean you guys have been bitching about judicial activism for 30 years now
You mean,now that owning two of three branches of government for the last 8 years, and all three for 6 out of the last eight years has made this your fault,there werent any activist judges after all?
Very selective reasoning
Funny Limbloat and NewsMax kept going on about all these activist judges,you mean the right wing lied to the American People 24/7?
Sorry its your hole,your party dug it

There ARE judges on the court right now who view the Constitution as a "living document" therefore making them the activist judges you speak of.

So if your party controls both the executive,and judicial branches of government,and has control of the legislative branch for most of the last 18 years.....................
"WHO'S HOUSE? RUN'S HOUSE"
Here I'll help you,the legislative branch writes the laws,that would be the part except for brief periods your party has controlled for most of the last 18 years,writes the laws. The executive branch,which your party has controlled for 28 of the last 40 years,signs the laws,and the judicial branch which again your party has controlled for roughly 20 years interprets them.
And this would not be your parties fault how,precisely.
Its your pig sty, you can wallow in it.

Trainer, the Republicans nor the Democrats run the Judicial Branch....judges are chosen on their merits and their reasoning behind what they believe.

And virtually all of the big court cases in recent years have been 5-4 which doesn't imply a great deal of control like you want to make everyone believe.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Trainer, the Republicans nor the Democrats run the Judicial Branch....judges are chosen on their merits and their reasoning behind what they believe.

And virtually all of the big court cases in recent years have been 5-4 which doesn't imply a great deal of control like you want to make everyone believe.

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Oh bull pucky Lyle,everybody knows how the high court breaks,and by what party affiliation
Scalia aint no Democrat,nor is Roberts or Thomas,or Alito. Stevens is a Ford appointee,Souter is a Bush 1 appointee,Kennedy was Reagan one.
So all but two justices are Republican nominees

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Correct but they aren't in power and therefore cannot do anything about the current situation now can they?

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Who is president right now Lyle?