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Yes but in boxing the size of a country population wise and or landmass wise is not what goes in the record books. Its what each country has produced, given to the sport, the amount of champions, quality of fighters, dominance of the skill, consistency, amount of money/income it brings in to this industry. not how big or small a country is. but the product itself (fighters/quality of figthers). its not the boxing industry's or fighters fault that the USA and MEXICO's size is huge in terms of population and land mass. but it is the fighters, homegrown talents and trainers fault for producing such great amount of champions and quality boxers for these two GREAT FIGHTING NATIONS. yes many smaller countries produce great champions and warriors but here we are talking about the BIG PICTURE. So how ever you wanna cut it, slice it or dice it you're only blinding yourself to the TRUE/REAL/FACTS. USA and MEXICO are the GIANTS of BOXING.:):):):):)
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But that would be difficult to document, would it not? :confused:
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Since some of you have actually compiled lists, I'm curious, where does Armenia stand? It has a population of 3 million.
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Since some of you have actually compiled lists, I'm curious, where does Armenia stand? It has a population of 3 million.
Can't find much on it. Of course, there is Vic (Armenia or Aussie?), but aside from him. I can't think of any.:confused:
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I would have to say the Maldive Islands.
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Since some of you have actually compiled lists, I'm curious, where does Armenia stand? It has a population of 3 million.
Can't find much on it. Of course, there is Vic (Armenia or Aussie?), but aside from him. I can't think of any.:confused:
Vic, Arthur Abraham, Koren Ghevor, Susi (female boxer), Yuri Barashian. Vanes Martirosyan prospect.
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Since some of you have actually compiled lists, I'm curious, where does Armenia stand? It has a population of 3 million.
Can't find much on it. Of course, there is Vic (Armenia or Aussie?), but aside from him. I can't think of any.:confused:
Vic, Arthur Abraham, Koren Ghevor, Susi (female boxer), Yuri Barashian. Vanes Martirosyan prospect.
European, Inter-continental, and female champions aside, Armenia has two recognized world champions (Vic and Abraham). With a population of about 3.2 million, this comes out roughly to 0.6 world champs per million people.
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Can't find much on it. Of course, there is Vic (Armenia or Aussie?), but aside from him. I can't think of any.:confused:
Vic, Arthur Abraham, Koren Ghevor, Susi (female boxer), Yuri Barashian. Vanes Martirosyan prospect.
European, Inter-continental, and female champions aside, Armenia has two recognized world champions (Vic and Abraham). With a population of about 3.2 million, this comes out roughly to 0.6 world champs per million people.
Cool. I was just trying to come up with countries with small populations and a lot of current champions. Presently, Armenia is producing a lot of world class boxers. Are those the only two champions Armenia has ever produced?
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How about a little love for Japan ;D
Also while maybe not the most 'skilled' but Korea/South produced some of the toughest & bravest
Japan - 18th per capita world champions
Korea - 12th
How many world champs has Korea produced?
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Can't find much on it. Of course, there is Vic (Armenia or Aussie?), but aside from him. I can't think of any.:confused:
Vic, Arthur Abraham, Koren Ghevor, Susi (female boxer), Yuri Barashian. Vanes Martirosyan prospect.
European, Inter-continental, and female champions aside, Armenia has two recognized world champions (Vic and Abraham). With a population of about 3.2 million, this comes out roughly to 0.6 world champs per million people.
Add two to that list: William Abelyan and Artur Grigorian. Doesn't change much though.
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Vic, Arthur Abraham, Koren Ghevor, Susi (female boxer), Yuri Barashian. Vanes Martirosyan prospect.
European, Inter-continental, and female champions aside, Armenia has two recognized world champions (Vic and Abraham). With a population of about 3.2 million, this comes out roughly to 0.6 world champs per million people.
Add two to that list: William Abelyan and Artur Grigorian. Doesn't change much though.
Abelyan's NABO titles don't count as world titles, as these are regional. Grigorian is from Uzbekistan, not Armenia. So the number remains at two. Not bad for a country with 3.2 million people, tho.
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
How about a little love for Japan ;D
Also while maybe not the most 'skilled' but Korea/South produced some of the toughest & bravest
Japan - 18th per capita world champions
Korea - 12th
How many world champs has Korea produced?
According to BoxRec, 44.
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European, Inter-continental, and female champions aside, Armenia has two recognized world champions (Vic and Abraham). With a population of about 3.2 million, this comes out roughly to 0.6 world champs per million people.
Add two to that list: William Abelyan and Artur Grigorian. Doesn't change much though.
Abelyan's NABO titles don't count as world titles, as these are regional. Grigorian is from Uzbekistan, not Armenia. So the number remains at two. Not bad for a country with 3.2 million people, tho.
Right, considering they are both champs now - The future looks bright.
I wonder where New York or California would place?
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Add two to that list: William Abelyan and Artur Grigorian. Doesn't change much though.
Abelyan's NABO titles don't count as world titles, as these are regional. Grigorian is from Uzbekistan, not Armenia. So the number remains at two. Not bad for a country with 3.2 million people, tho.
Right, considering they are both champs now - The future looks bright.
I wonder where New York or California would place?
Shannon Briggs, Al "Bummy" Davis, Bernie "Schoolboy" Friedkin, Mike Tyson, Zab Judah, Vivian Harris (now), Riddick Bowe, Sechew Powell (now), Dmotriy Salita (now) and Yuri Foreman (now) all come from the Brownsville section of Brooklyn.
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America always has and still to this day produces the majority of world class talent but the gap is shortening day by day what with the influx of world class south americans and european fighters.
Without turning a decent conversation into a race argument asia will never truly produce fighters above lightweight level because they statistically as big as north/southern american, europeans etc which makes pacquiao`s promenence to the top all that more spectacular.
Australia is the one the surprises me - been over there a few times and boxing gets quite a lot of attention and is easily the number 1 combat sport that side of the world.
Yet apart from katsidis, tszyu, mundine they havent really produced that much in the way of talent as far as the size and structure of a country that big should do.
1.North America
2.South America
3.Central Europe
4.Northern Europe
5.Asia
6.Australasia
7.Antartica (those seals couldnt find their way out of a fishnet;D)
