Looks like Hatton- Paquiao is off

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

Rank was betting on a hugue PPV UK draw.

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I dont get that at all.

no one who doesnt already watch boxing would have seen Oscar against pac.

As sad as it is Froch will now be more well known after struggling on ITV.

What are promoters being paid for because they arent trying very hard.

Remember Benn and Eubank were all over tv programmes to hype their rematch even though it didnt need it.

People dont care about boxing because boxers nowadays dont try very hard to get a bigger audience, after all the better the audience the better they get paid.

A few day time tv programmes, adverts even something like a reality tv programme, thats why boxng isnt as popular because its not on the most watched media and its on at stupid times that people cant be bothered to stay up till, even the uk shows that have a main event at about 10 is too late, if they were on at 8pm, theyd get much bigger audiences and interest.

10pm on a weekend most casual sports fans are pissed out their skulls and wont watch tv.

Even sky sports say the fight is off now it doesnt look good nothing on Hatton site yet! Hatton even went up to 53% in the end and Manny doesnt want to know.

I just don't understand the people in Manny's ear. 50-52% of a lot money will be a lot more than whatever his high percentage against Humberto Soto or Valero will be. Arum must be pulling whatever hair he has left out.

Manny Pacquiao = http://politicalcartooncarnival.type...hickenshit.jpg

;D

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

I think Manny is being foolish here, because there is no way he will get more than 50-50 against Mayweather whose people will just not let that happen, as well as the fact it would not generate the money the UK PPV's do for Hatton. 52-48 is a pretty good deal, it really is starting to look like Pacquiao is avoidin Hatton.

In terms of future opponents, for Pacquiao, there is Mayweather, but I doubt he will get more than 50-50 against him even if it did post bigger numbers in the US, whilst Marquez III is another option and one where he could get a bigger piece of the pie, but I can't see this being as lucrative as Hatton.

Hatton can fight any 'name' and he will do good numbers. I think one fight he could go for is Cotto at a catchweight of 144 or something, if Cotto doesn't go straight to Margarito after demolishing Jennings. This could also be fairly big money wise, and would probably do close to 1,000,000 buys in the UK. My cousin was working at SkySports for the Malignaggi fight, and their internal estimate on the night of PPV buys in the UK was somewhere between 500,000 & 600,000, so think about the money that could be made against a more renowned name like Cotto. Plus if Hatton did it in a stadium he can make a bundle off ticket sales.

Still hope that Manny sees sense and makes the fight.

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Just read an article that was on here that Hatton-Paulie only did like 200K in the UK.

I don't think Pacquiao is being foolish, he deserves more money than Hatton deserves to make, he is fighting the bigger guy, he is the one with everything to lose, Hatton has nothing to lose.

He would make a lot more money fighting Mayweather even if it was a 50/50 split, that fight would be huge in the states and probably go for nearly 2 million buys.

Also IMO Pacquiao beats either Cotto or Margarito, he is way too fast, and not just of hand but of foot, I mean Zab Judah could have beaten Cotto with he would have consistently thrown that left hand and Pacquiao does throw it more, and he sets it up better. Margarito is a lumbering giant of a man, but he has terrible footwork and Pacquiao is way quicker of foot than Cotto and way lighter on his feet, everytime Margarito comes barreling in Pacquiao will easily maintain the distance, and he can do it all night, and if Cotto looked so fast against Marg, imagine how Pacquiao will look.

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You read an article or a post? I remember a post proposing a similar number, but I'm pretty sure it was someone who was making an argument that Hatton wasn't a draw. Like I said my cousin was working there freelance on the night, and let's say that it was under there lowest estimate, there is no way that they could have misjudged it that badly on the night, so let's say a minimum of 400,000 buys assuming the Sky people fucked up badly. Anyway the figures I heard are still not spectacular when you take into account that nearly 1.5 million people in the UK bought the PBF-Hatton PPV.

Yeah a Pacquiao-PBF fight would be huge, I've never said it wouldn't BUT there is no way Al Haymon & the rest of Floyd's people would take anything less than 50-50 & they might not even do that. Plus Hatton-Pacquiao would at the least do over a million sales in the UK alone. Pacquiao would be cut in on this thanks to how Arum did the deal.

Cannot see Manny beatin Margarito, at some point he would probably try to trade with him & that would be it. He would have to fight a boring fight in order to beat Margarito because there is NO WAY he would knock him out.

There is a reason Arum is pushing for this fight (especially considerin he promotes Cotto & Margarito) because it's the most lucrative one.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

I gotta say, if Jmm goes onto beat Diaz and then Hatton, he would be the new PFP#1 IMO

Juan is all about fighting the toughest competition and not bitching out over a few percent

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If that happens, beating Casamayor, Diaz, then Hatton, he is definitely going to steal the top spot. Damn, then that would set up one hell of a P4P battle with Pac. If Marquez wants to get all that done he better not waste anytime. He's getting old. Diaz in Feb, Hatton in July, then Pacquiao in December. The thought of it makes me shiver.

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Originally Posted by yvonne

To me this is just all talk:rolleyes:it's all about winding people up and getting people talking about it.Im not even going to get worked up over it,i dont believe the hype and thats all this is "Hype!"It's on for sure.Chow;)

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I think the same thing too. This is just to get the boxing world talking about it. Now we're all depressing about it not happening then all of a sudden, BOOM! Fight is signed, now we're just that much more excited about it.

I for one would like the match-up to happen right away. But figure if Hatton and Pac fight down the road while beating other fighters along the way, it will build hype like crazy.

Pac refusing 50-50 is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him.

Hatton pushing for 50-50 knowing he doesn't deserve it is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him

Fukk them both.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Pac refusing 50-50 is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him.

Hatton pushing for 50-50 knowing he doesn't deserve it is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him

Fukk them both.

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According to the article linked earlier, Hatton had gone down to a 53-47 split for Manny, & Manny still wasnt havin it

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Originally Posted by fan johnny

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Fukk Pac. He can never claim that he always tried the fight the best. What a fraud. If that fag had any sense he knew that even 52% against Hatton would generate a lot more against Margez, Valero, Guzman etc. The fans Hatton brings to his fights, no one can compare too. Guess he really is dumb.

Manny Pacquaio :LOLATYOU:

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You're dumb ass!

Tell me why the basic premise has being set for Pacquiao / Margarito? Pacquiao is keen on watching Margrito / Mosley fight. Don't come up with some lame dumb as answer either.

Hatton's draw numbers are down against other fighters and no way he could even hope to generate the kind of money a Pacquiao / Hatton fight can. Even a rematch with Mayweather would come up way short. A place Hatton can make good money is in the UK with live tickets and it's gotta be with one of the alaphbets cause IBO ain't gonna get him anything. The only thing you write that make sence is about Hatton fans.

Marquez ain't going up to 140 to fight Hatton because he'd get his ass knocked out and knows it. It would tank his career again. I wouldn't even watch it and I'd only look at the highlights after the fight on youtube. Most people don't even know the fighter names you have listed not only that they are all in the lightweight and superfeather weight class, not the jr welterweight and welterweight class.

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You think PAC is going to fit the winner of Margarito/Mosely(Margarito). Talk about getting his ass kicked pillar to post.

Whatever happen to Fighting for pride and glory?
Thats what I want to see not disputes about money.

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Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina

Whatever happen to Fighting for pride and glory?
Thats what I want to see not disputes about money.

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Music to Don King's ears.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

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Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina

Whatever happen to Fighting for pride and glory?
Thats what I want to see not disputes about money.

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Music to Don King's ears.

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;D

Manny is obviously not scared of Hatton or anything like that, most likely he thinks he's the man (rightfully so) and wants the bigger share as a sign of that, but he's cutting off his nose to spite his face, I love that expression.

What people are forgetting here amongst all of this emotional diatribe is Manny holds all the aces, he just KTFO the PPV king of the past 10 years and that gives him all the bargaining rights he wants. Hatton will have to take what is offered or lump it.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Pac refusing 50-50 is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him.

Hatton pushing for 50-50 knowing he doesn't deserve it is his way of not wanting the fight. Fukk him

Fukk them both.

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Hatton gave in on the demands and conceded a few % to Pac... While Manny wont even pick up the phone to anyone even Freddie Roach.

Pac knows hatton aint a dried up shriveled Delahoya and got a case of the limber tail