Haye willing to fight Wlad in Germany

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Thompson at least paid his dues and climbed up the rankings little by little. He wasn't totally unworthy. Haye has pretty much gotten his shot by running his mouth. That impresses you? If you think about it, this will turn into a meaningless fight. Right now it has meaning and intrigue cuz Haye has managed to delude a bunch of foolish people into thinking he has a chance. To be fair those peoples Boxing knowledge is poor to begin with, so I can't really hold it against them. But in reality once Wlad stretchers Haye early all you will hear and read is Wlad beat up a smaller fighter with no jaw and poor stamina. The win will quickly be dismiss. And in the long run it will mean little. It will be come meaningless.

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I don't see any current heavyweight having a better chance than Haye. I'd like to see Junior fight somebody who's faster than he is. Somebody with speed and athleticism who can punch. I don't see anybody remotely like that at heavyweight so the next best thing is Haye.

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Do you know when Shannon Briggs first came up he was considered a great athlete who could punch and had great speed? Those traits ain't enough to give Haye a title shot. If that's what you look for than why not give recent Chris Arreola victim Travis Walker a title shot? Walker is a great athlete. Has very good power. And is faster than Wlad. Not to mention the fact that he makes for exciting fights. Why not him? I'll tell you why not. Cuz like Haye he doesn't derseve one.

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I don't think much of Arreola or Walker. I think Haye beats both easily. I don't think there's anybody out there who is miles ahead of haye in terms of getting a title fight.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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I don't see any current heavyweight having a better chance than Haye. I'd like to see Junior fight somebody who's faster than he is. Somebody with speed and athleticism who can punch. I don't see anybody remotely like that at heavyweight so the next best thing is Haye.

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Do you know when Shannon Briggs first came up he was considered a great athlete who could punch and had great speed? Those traits ain't enough to give Haye a title shot. If that's what you look for than why not give recent Chris Arreola victim Travis Walker a title shot? Walker is a great athlete. Has very good power. And is faster than Wlad. Not to mention the fact that he makes for exciting fights. Why not him? I'll tell you why not. Cuz like Haye he doesn't derseve one.

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I don't think much of Arreola or Walker. I think Haye beats both easily. I don't think there's anybody out there who is miles ahead of haye in terms of getting a title fight.

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How can you not be big on Walker if your big on Haye? If you break them down by traits Walker and Haye are very similar. Either way, I can't see Haye lasting any longer than Walker did against Arreola. If they were to trade opponents Arreola destroys Monte Barrett in 1. Haye would go the distance in a life and death struggle against Walker.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Do you know when Shannon Briggs first came up he was considered a great athlete who could punch and had great speed? Those traits ain't enough to give Haye a title shot. If that's what you look for than why not give recent Chris Arreola victim Travis Walker a title shot? Walker is a great athlete. Has very good power. And is faster than Wlad. Not to mention the fact that he makes for exciting fights. Why not him? I'll tell you why not. Cuz like Haye he doesn't derseve one.

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I don't think much of Arreola or Walker. I think Haye beats both easily. I don't think there's anybody out there who is miles ahead of haye in terms of getting a title fight.

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How can you not be big on Walker if your big on Haye? If you break them down by traits Walker and Haye are very similar. Either way, I can't see Haye lasting any longer than Walker did against Arreola. If they were to trade opponents Arreola destroys Monte Barrett in 1. Haye would go the distance in a life and death struggle against Walker.

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Arreola and Barret both beat Couser in two rounds or less. Just like Tony Thompson, who got a fight against Junior after beating Couser. Arreola isn't vastly better thanBarret and Haye beat him like a gong. An easy win for haye against the fat plodder if they ever get in a ring. Walker same thing.

#1 David Haye got knocked down vs Monte Barrett

#2 Walker would KO David Haye

#3 Cris Arreola is a proven fighter at heavyweight and David Haye is not as he has had only 2 fights at heavyweight both were far from spectacular and they had him matched vs very weak opponents

#4 Wladimir beat Monte Barrett when (and if) it ever meant anything....and Wlad didn't get knocked down in the process either

I honestly don't care who Wladimir fights next because he'll beat either of them.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

#1 David Haye got knocked down vs Monte Barrett

#2 Walker would KO David Haye

#3 Cris Arreola is a proven fighter at heavyweight and David Haye is not as he has had only 2 fights at heavyweight both were far from spectacular and they had him matched vs very weak opponents

#4 Wladimir beat Monte Barrett when (and if) it ever meant anything....and Wlad didn't get knocked down in the process either

I honestly don't care who Wladimir fights next because he'll beat either of them.

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You called that a knockdown ? You are one biased fukking twat and more deluded than I thought. A punch only landed when Haye was on the canvas after the push.

David Haye may have been off balance but hitting the canvas due to contact = knockdown.

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David Haye may have been off balance but hitting the canvas due to contact = knockdown.

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It was a push FFS!!

So really Sultan Ibragimov knocked Wladimir Klitchsko down cuz I remember him going down in there fight not from a punch ?

Whatever helps you sleep at night....all I'm saying is you're building Haye up as some sort of Superman and he's going to get his ass handed to him when he steps up to the elite level of the heavyweight division

Agreed...We are starving for a Heavyweight so bad that we are pushing fighters to quickly and Haye is being pushed to fast too soon to fight the K brothers. The Cruisers are not the Heavyweights. You think Manny Steward has not broken down Haye already? Like I said b4 Haye should fight a few more tune ups before going to the top. Oleg Maskaev would be a perfect fight for him and then a Toney or a Ruslan Chagaev. Haye should get some global backing and stay more active because youth is on his side and his time will come if he is legit. If not he will be a victim like Calvin Brock, Sam Peter or Tony Thompson. Because it seems not one fighter has been the same after they been brutally knocked out by these 2 behemoths.