Kirkland, what's better ACTING like you care or treating everyone the same?
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Kirkland, what's better ACTING like you care or treating everyone the same?
Any southern Dixiecrat who signed up to the civil rights agenda knowing it could inevitably cost them reelection clearly was not "acting like they cared," they were actually showing courage. Similarly guys like Thurmond who didn't sign up and instead joined the GOP so that they didn't have to agree to equal rights for coloured folks were not "treating everyone the same."Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
While you are partly correct you are also wrong as well.
Lots of Southern families didn't leave the Democrat Party as they had have a history with the Party and so they just played along and at the local level they really didn't have to follow the National movement.
The KKK was spawned from Democrats
Yes, the south was still chock full of racist pliticians even after the civil rights act was passed. But the fact remains that the Democrats supported it and the GOP opposed it. So even though those politicians were still sorry human beings they still did at least one correct, courageous thing in their careers. And the Democrats paid the political p[rice for doing so too, the GOP now being dominant in the south.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
The GOP are not dominant anywhere right now....in my state we have 1 Republican Senator and only 5 (out of a possible 13) Republican Congressmen.
The ENTIRE eastern part of the state has always been and will always be DEMOCRAT no matter what the national stance of the party....the well to do families have history in the Democrat Party and will not give up their place in the party for anything.
That's only because the GOP has made such a disastrous job of running everything when they've been in power. Even your own State voted for Obama. But the fact remains that since the Democrats embraced civil rights the GOP has pandered to racist elements in the south to win elections and done so succesfully for decades. The fact it isn't working so well now is something else entirely.
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My state is home to tons of liberals I don't deny it....the city I live in is full up with liberals......but I am not one of them.
That strategy doesn't work well, it never has been super effective here. Jesse Helms never won any landslides and that's all he used
It's fair to say that North Carolina isn't known for being a liberal kind od place though. I mean it's not Vermont, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
It's not Vermont or anything but compare NC to Virginia, South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Tennesse, etc etc.....we're very liberal for a Southern State. So North Carolinians usually don't vote for a Democrat it's not that the people aren't liberal it's that they aren't liberal to the extent where they agree with what the national Democrat Party....we only had 3 Republican Governors in the entire 20th Century.
* 1st Sit in in the South happened in (my hometown) Greensboro at the Woolworth's
* The NC University system (16 schools) are a bastion of liberality...visit one and you'll see what I mean
Thank god we can disagree about something,I was worrying because of that TO thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Virginia is a weird state in that its large enough to be very different in different parts. Blacksburg is very liberal,Bluefield is very moderate,other parts are very conservative.
Even PA is like that,a friends dad used to describe it as "You have Philly on this end,and Pittsburgh on that end,and Alabama all in the middle"
In NC you have the Eastern part of the state who are the Old School Democrats are (Dixiecrats, some may call them) who are still Democrats just because of family history. Anyone with old money in the Eastern part of the state is a Democrat.
You have the Central part of the state which has a mix of Democrats and Republicans but mainly Democrats due to the liberal arts colleges and large populations of ethnic and religious minorities.
And then you have the mountain folk and they are just freaking wierd.
But a large portion of those groups can be swayed on arguments about family values and the power of the federal government.