Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
Saddoboxer, seriously dude you need to tone this shit down!!
You refuse to listen to valid points raised by other knowledgeble posters and keep repeating the same things yourself over and over is if it's fact. Do you actually read anybody else's posts or do you just wait to see replys so that you can repeat yourself again? ;)
You're setting yourself up for a big fall and creating anti Pac sentiments on the forum in the process. This is a far closer match up than you and the bookies think, 50/50 is more realistic!
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Conrad
Saddoboxer, seriously dude you need to tone this shit down!!
You refuse to listen to valid points raised by other knowledgeble posters and keep repeating the same things yourself over and over is if it's fact. Do you actually read anybody else's posts or do you just wait to see replys so that you can repeat yourself again? ;)
You're setting yourself up for a big fall and creating anti Pac sentiments on the forum in the process. This is a far closer match up than you and the bookies think, 50/50 is more realistic!
Mate Conrad, I think it's not only me and the oddsmaker having Hatton as a huge underdog here. This particular boxing writer has the same feeling with us...
link --> Hatton clearly the underdog against Pacquiao
He might have a skull lined with concrete, thousands of fans chanting, "There's only onnnnnnnnnnnne Ricky Hatton," and a huggy bear style that can frustrate the most average of boxers. But come May 2nd, Ricky Hatton will be a clear underdog against Manny Pacquiao.
One Internet sports book has the Filipino boxing idol a two-to-one favorite over the U.K. bruiser.
It does not take an expert to realize Hatton loves his booze and fish 'n chips. As long-time, robust fight figure Michael Marley recently noted, during a U.K. presser this week it seemed as if Hatton was aroused early from a night of partying to attend the media meet and greet. Afterall, we are talking about a fighter who has even embraced the moniker of Ricky "Fatton."
Yet for all his lack of self-care during between-fight downtime, Hatton has never failed to come less than prepared for a major fight. And usually his foes break under Ricky's iron will and goonery.
Do not expect the 30-year-old to hit the wall against Pacquiao, especially under the watchful eye of world renowned trainer and taskmaster Floyd Mayweather Senior.
So what will be Hatton's undoing?
Manny Pacquiao.
“I’ve been in a lot of big, big fights and beaten a lot of great fighters. My last fight against De La Hoya was important, but Ricky Hatton will be much harder," Pacquiao recently told a Filipino news outlet.
Manny is giving Hatton too much credit, drumming up a fairly predictable clash and trying to sell more pay-per-views in my estimation.
Hatton is a world class brawler who relies on being able to get off his punches and then hug and mug his foe. That sort of rudimentary strategy can work wonders against run-of-the-mill opposition.
His comeback from a December 2007 knockout loss to Floyd Mayweather Junior has been built on victories against a very average Juan Lazcano and the stoppage knockout of athletic but feather and damaged fisted Paulie Malignaggi.
Q: Why did Hatton loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr?
A: Floyd was the most athletic boxer Ricky had ever faced in his career and the former pound-for-pound great was able to strike and flutter away from Hatton's attempted clinches.
Prior to Mayweather, Hatton's resume reads like a who's who of serviceable brawlers: Juan Urango, a blown-up and past prime Jose Luis Castillo, Carlos Maussa. Hatton did ice the previously unstoppable Kostya Tsyu, but the Russian was 35 and well past his prime.
Hatton's only other scare, aside from Mayweather, was a tough unanimous decision "victory" over crafty lefty Luis Collazo.
Want to give Hatton problems?
Be a lefty, box, have athletic ability, and the capability to move around on your feet.
Unfortunately for the Manchester faithful Manny Pacquiao has loads and loads of Ricky's poisons and power to boot.
Once an off-balance, offense first, second and last lefty, Pacquiao has been transformed by Freddie Roach into a calibrated boxing machine. The fiery native of General Santos still throws punches in bunches from a southpaw stance. But as proved in his definitive victory over Oscar De La Hoya, Manny can now weave in and out of exchanges while still punishing his opponent.
If you throw level of opposition into the mix, Pacquiao has been hardened by a string of future Hall of Fame fighters.
Erik Morales, De La Hoya, Marco Antonio Barrera, and Juan Manuel Marquez all rear their legendary mugs in Manny's record. The only fighter who can equal the abilities of those former Pacquiao foes on Hatton's list of foes is Floyd Mayweather Junior and we already went over how that bout went for Hatton.
Don't believe the pre-fight hype. Don't listen to Manny up-sell Ricky. Don't listen to Floyd Senior taunt Manny and Freddie. Don't listen to Hatton say he will knock out the Filipino. And don't believe this is a fight of the year candidate worthy of forty-some-odd dollars.
Look at the lines and believe the odds-makers who have Pacquiao as a clear favorite.
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
Yeah i read that article yesterday. That is just somebodies opinion and I hazard a guess that writer, as did so many other writers, wrote something similar about how De La Hoya was gonna overwhelm Pac with his sheer size advantage. How that fight was so pointless and one sided. The same goes for the Pavlik Hopkins bout.
Pretty much every writer picked ODLH over Pac and as you know full well they were wrong. Just because some journelist on the internet says a fighter will win it doesn't make it so.
The beauty of the ODLH fight is that it actually makes Pac look better at the higher weights than what he probably is. Sure Pac looked fantastic but then any half decent fighter around the WW mark would have too that night. Oscar himself also said that Pac's punches didn't hurt him, they clearly have no effect on the bigger men....
Do yourself, and more importantly Pac a favour by toning down all these rants.
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
Saddoboxer, seriously dude you need to tone this shit down!!
You refuse to listen to valid points raised by other knowledgeable posters and keep repeating the same things yourself over and over is if it's fact. Do you actually read anybody else's posts or do you just wait to see replies so that you can repeat yourself again? ;)
You're setting yourself up for a big fall and creating anti Pac sentiments on the forum in the process. This is a far closer match up than you and the bookies think, 50/50 is more realistic!
Don't let Saddo get to us English Fans, he is a master at fishing for a bite, same old bait every time and the same old fish coming in and taking the bait, lets just leave him to it and not pull his string, its such a biased opinion the baits not worth it. Ricks forums been invaded by Pac fans and there on here too a place I love for an unbiased discussion but unfortunately we ain't going to get one with this angler. ;)
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Conrad
Yeah i read that article yesterday. That is just somebodies opinion and I hazard a guess that writer, as did so many other writers, wrote something similar about how De La Hoya was gonna overwhelm Pac with his sheer size advantage. How that fight was so pointless and one sided. The same goes for the Pavlik Hopkins bout.
Pretty much every writer picked ODLH over Pac and as you know full well they were wrong. Just because some journelist on the internet says a fighter will win it doesn't make it so.
The beauty of the ODLH fight is that it actually makes Pac look better at the higher weights than what he probably is. Sure Pac looked fantastic but then any half decent fighter around the WW mark would have too that night.
Do yourself, and more importantly Pac a favour by toning down all these rants.
Yeah mate, I really feel it for Hatton... He seems to be a likeable bloke outside the ring and you see how harsh these boxing writers degrade his abilities compared to Pacquiao...
I got that same feeling when I picked PAC against Hoya and many members here labeled me as delusional, idiot and dumb...
Anyway it's part of boxing forum life... We're just here to present our mere opinions...
Cheers mate... It's not the end of Hatton after PAC... Unless he decides to retire for good... PAC also will be retiring at the end of the year... PAC will be missed and so with Hatton...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
The main advantage that Pac had over Oscar was that he had had a meal at some point in the week before the fight... Oscar looked like he'd been eating air... he probably didn't know whether to box Manny or eat him.
Whilst I do think that pacman is possibly p4p number one at the moment I also don't understand why people get so exited every time he beats a shop worn, weight drained mexican... Morales beat him when he still had a tiny bit of his spark left, gave him plenty to think about the second time out... did you see Morales in the third fight? The guy literally looked like a zombie skeleton. Barrera? I give Manny a bit of credit for the first fight... Barrera probably was past his peak but was still an elite fighter... the 2nd fight Barrera was like what? 6-7 years past hios best? Still went the distance. Oh and David Diaz? solid fighter but are people realy going to put Manny on a pedistal for beating David Diaz? Other than beating an over the hill Morales diaz hasn't really done that much else.
Giving him some credit for those wins is fine... he deserves it...
He's not a god though.
Manny is good... but he's not THAT good... jesus... get it in perspective.
1% chance?... :-/ lol
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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miles
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SaddoBoxer
Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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You were more worried about David Diaz than you are about Hatton?? That speaks volumes. I admit that I thought the DLH fight was a concern. But when Manny weighs more than DLH it's obvious that something is amiss. Manny beat Diaz fair and square but that was to be expected. The Oscar fight was more spectacular, but he beat a shadow in there.
Now we will see what Manny does for the FIRST time outside of 130 pounds against a quality fighter still in his prime. You would be silly not to be worried. Hatton is a far sterner test than both of Pacs last two opponents.
"I'm not worried at all for PAC in this (Hatton) fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights... :p ;D
Another thing, Hatton again lying on this one... weighing 154 lbs. on fight night ... tsk... tsk... tsk...
Going... going... gone... :p ;D
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