Re: Klitschko vs Haye Collapsed AGAIN!!!
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Pity Oliver Mcall isnt fighting i think he'd be a good tune up for Haye. True heavyweight power and chin.
McCall knocked out Lennox Lewis. Yet some how Laing never heard of him
Re: Klitschko vs Haye Collapsed AGAIN!!!
I wonder, is David Haye actually going to get around to fighting this year? Even if he does get something inked, its looking like he's only going to fight the once. He should at least stay busy...:rolleyes:
Re: Klitschko vs Haye Collapsed AGAIN!!!
BOTTOM LINE -- Klit is champ and is doing Haye anhuge favour by allowing him a free shot at the no.1 (not undisputed IMO but still top) without earning it at heavyweight.
Klit should just call his bluff, Haye has absolutely no one of worth lined up (and zero intention either) as he doesn't want to risk his 'hard earned' shot.
Re: Klitschko vs Haye Collapsed AGAIN!!!
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Violent Demise
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Kirkland Laing
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His eliminator was against Virches who was a legit contender; not McCall. ALthough you dont seem to care too much about being factual.
I didn't say it wasn't and if Virches is a legit contender for a title then so is David haye.
Based on what? I'm not sure what exactly it is Barrett has over you. But you need to look at facts. He's a shot fighter who in his prime lost every big fight he was in. Beating him means nothing.
McCall is easily equally shot too. He beat Lewis but Buster Douglas beat Tyson and when he made a comeback he got nothing but scorn and derision, yet he hadn't spent chunks of the intervening years locked up or on drugs/recovering from drugs. McCall, Barrett etc. are a bunch of retreads and neither is much better than the other. Trying to make a case that one is far better than the other and that beating him gives you a legitimate claim to a heavyweight title shot but not the other is just silly. If beating McCall makes you a legit challenger then so does beating Barrett.
Re: Klitschko vs Haye Collapsed AGAIN!!!
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Kirkland Laing
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Violent Demise
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Kirkland Laing
I didn't say it wasn't and if Virches is a legit contender for a title then so is David haye.
Based on what? I'm not sure what exactly it is Barrett has over you. But you need to look at facts. He's a shot fighter who in his prime lost every big fight he was in. Beating him means nothing.
McCall is easily equally shot too. He beat Lewis but Buster Douglas beat Tyson and when he made a comeback he got nothing but scorn and derision, yet he hadn't spent chunks of the intervening years locked up or on drugs/recovering from drugs. McCall, Barrett etc. are a bunch of retreads and neither is much better than the other. Trying to make a case that one is far better than the other and that beating him gives you a legitimate claim to a heavyweight title shot but not the other is just silly. If beating McCall makes you a legit challenger then so does beating Barrett.
umm what the hell does Tyson/Douglas have to do with McCall knocking Lewis the fuck out?
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ElTerribleMorales
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Kirkland Laing
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Violent Demise
Based on what? I'm not sure what exactly it is Barrett has over you. But you need to look at facts. He's a shot fighter who in his prime lost every big fight he was in. Beating him means nothing.
McCall is easily equally shot too. He beat Lewis but Buster Douglas beat Tyson and when he made a comeback he got nothing but scorn and derision, yet he hadn't spent chunks of the intervening years locked up or on drugs/recovering from drugs. McCall, Barrett etc. are a bunch of retreads and neither is much better than the other. Trying to make a case that one is far better than the other and that beating him gives you a legitimate claim to a heavyweight title shot but not the other is just silly. If beating McCall makes you a legit challenger then so does beating Barrett.
umm what the hell does Tyson/Douglas have to do with McCall knocking Lewis the fuck out?
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...56-post61.html
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ElTerribleMorales
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Kirkland Laing
McCall is easily equally shot too. He beat Lewis but Buster Douglas beat Tyson and when he made a comeback he got nothing but scorn and derision, yet he hadn't spent chunks of the intervening years locked up or on drugs/recovering from drugs. McCall, Barrett etc. are a bunch of retreads and neither is much better than the other. Trying to make a case that one is far better than the other and that beating him gives you a legitimate claim to a heavyweight title shot but not the other is just silly. If beating McCall makes you a legit challenger then so does beating Barrett.
umm what the hell does Tyson/Douglas have to do with McCall knocking Lewis the fuck out?
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...56-post61.html
dude i've read the whole thread, it has zero to do with Tyson losing to Douglas lol here's some helpful words from you, from the wise late Rick James "Cocaine is a hell of a drug";D
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I just read that Wlad has given Haye until March 21st to come to terms or it's off.
Wladimir Klitschko Gives David Haye a March 21 Deadline
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if Haye doesn't man up all his fan boys like Lefty have no excuse, cause all he'll prove is that he's shitting bricks bout getting into the ring with Wlad, but seriously this is getting annnoying already, more twists and turns than a damn episode of "As the world turns" lol
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Klitschko sounds like he's shakin in his boots. :beat:
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Hey Wlad is the champ he wouldn't be in negotiations with Haye if he didn't think the fight was #1 what the fans want #2 a challenge and #3 worth the money....if anything Haye is trying to take more than his fair share because #1 He knows he'll lose and never be the same fighter again and #2 He's an arrogant prick
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this is great news. Now maybe Haye can prove himself at heavyweight some? Didn't Haye say he'd fight two heavyweights and Wladimer fight two mandatories and then they'd fight? Or at least thats what he was blasting to Wladimer when they had their face to face. Fight two top 10 guys Haye like you said you would.
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If Haye had just 2 fights vs some decent heavyweights who will fight back then a Haye-Klitschko match up means more money, more buzz, and it may mean Haye has a better chance at winning.
The Haye fans are scared of Haye fighting anyone other than a Klitschko because if David fights and loses to either Wlad or Vitali maybe they can say "he took on the best and lost and there is nothing bad about that", or say he "wasn't ready for the title shot yet" or some bullshit like that but if Haye fought Oleg Maskaev and got his ass whupped then David would look like Audley Harrison
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Hey Wlad is the champ he wouldn't be in negotiations with Haye if he didn't think the fight was #1 what the fans want #2 a challenge and #3 worth the money...
Wlad should also start acting a bit more like a Champion.
he could learn a thing or two from his older brother.
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You are so full of it Adam, Wladimir wants to give the fans what they want....David Haye is purposly pricing himself out of the fight