Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
There is 2 big things at play here. One...Pac is now incredibly confident mentally and physically. His resume is now more impressive than Floyd's as well. He has fought some great fighters in their PRIME. Something i cannot say is true for Floyd. The second thing...you cannot discount Floyd's inactivity or lack of fighting a truly great, PRIME fighter in his career. Floyd has fought big names, but Pac is at the absolute (or very close to) peak of his powers. Pac is no past it Oscar, headcase Judah, one dimesnsional Hatton, etc. No doubt Floyd is the most skilled and intelligent fighter in the business. But Pac is unlike any fighter Floyd has faced. I still think Floyd's brilliant skills, ring savvy, and preparation will make him the favorite. But i know longer think it's a sure thing he will win.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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zhubin
There is 2 big things at play here. One...Pac is now incredibly confident mentally and physically. His resume is now more impressive than Floyd's as well. He has fought some great fighters in their PRIME. Something i cannot say is true for Floyd. The second thing...you cannot discount Floyd's inactivity or lack of fighting a truly great, PRIME fighter in his career. Floyd has fought big names, but Pac is at the absolute (or very close to) peak of his powers. Pac is no past it Oscar, headcase Judah, one dimesnsional Hatton, etc. No doubt Floyd is the most skilled and intelligent fighter in the business. But Pac is unlike any fighter Floyd has faced. I still think Floyd's brilliant skills, ring savvy, and preparation will make him the favorite. But i know longer think it's a sure thing he will win.
pretty much the same feelings here
2 weeks back i wouldnt of even bothered to answer this as i would of had this down as a floyd TKO but having seen pac manage hatton so devestatingly at 140 i cant help but think he would put floyd under immense pressure.
Im still going with my hunch that marquez may just outpoint a gunshy floyd next month, but somewhere down the line pac-mayweather is just too rich a fight for either guy to turn down and it will 100% happen at some point down the line.
If you ask me the whole potential pac freak show at 154 would be a waste of everybodys time and effort, if pacquiao wants to generally be a world champ at 154 then fight the best in the divison (williams) and dont waste everybodys time and effort by fighting someone you know you`ll be able to beat everyday of the week just because he owns a title you want.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
If the layoff doesn't affect Mayweather he should win.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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Asain Sensation, where did you find the whole fight? or was it a summary?
Im sure Mayweather and his team will go back over that fight and correct the mistakes he made against Judah. Mayweather hadnt fought a good southpaw in ages so wasnt used to them at all. I am 100% sure Roger will be watching that fight with his notebook fixing everything they need to change so they wont make those same mistakes. Also they will watch the fights vs Marquez, who as many believe beat PAC, see what he did and do better (which I am sure they can do).
Agreed Chino (especially about C-Lo and his great post), Oscar was throwing twice as much as Floyd and landing half throughout the fight according to Compubox. I really dont see volume as an issue. Also I think that fight was Mayweather's worst, most lackluster performance, its like he wasnt as into it, he looked very lazy idk :confused:
This is another factor worth considering, is Floyd's best a little bit behind him? I'm not just talking about the layoff but I also thought he was lazy and disinterested in the Oscar fight, and thought he was also cautious with the trigger against Hatton, who was there to be nailed every second of every round. Of course his technical ability will always be factor, probably well into his forties.
Anyway not sure what the overall point of this post is, just thinking out loud and imagining scenarios that give Pac a genuine shot at him.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
I hope all this doesn't end up like Margarito hype when he beat Cotto. People were all going bonkers saying that Margarito was the greatest ever for beating Cotto and he could beat everybody left and right blah blah blah only to lose on his next fight. Sometimes we tend to overhype someone just because they beat a big name in a convincing fashion. Does Pac have potential? Of course! But ANYTHING can happen in the sport of boxing.
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JonnyFolds
Marquez beats him. This fools got the tools and relentless attack to break him down.
Pac knocks the ring rust right off his chin in 4.
I.E. We don't see PBF vs Pac ... We See Pac vs Marquez III, the way it oughtta be.
mate you,ve hit the nail on the head totally agree!!!!
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
It's really hard to bet against Pacquiao after seeing him destroyed Hatton.
But imo, PBF has the tools to put Manny in desperate situation. PBF better not look past JMM though.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
FLOYD MAYWEATHER SR.: "LIL FLOYD WOULD TOY WITH PACQUIAO!"
"Yeah, to be honest with you man, I think Lil Floyd would toy with Pacquiao. He would toy with Pacquiao and Marquez. He's going to toy with Marquez," stated world-class trainer Floyd Mayweather Sr. as he shared his thoughts on his son's return to the ring. "They are both too small for me. I'll beat both of them," Mayweather Jr. shouted in the background. Check out what both father and son had to say as the Mayweathers reunite to discuss Pacquiao, Hatton, Marquez and much more.
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content4892.html
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
At least it seems like father and son are at least talking to each other and all.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
Actually I'm really worried for PBF... PAC has this habit of transforming a boxers' monicker to something else... For example, "Hitman" turned to "Sh!tman".... "Golden Boy" turned to "Golden Gay" (Hoya quit, right?)...
Now imagine what PAC will make out of "Pretty Boy"?? ;D
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Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
I'd have to favor Mayweather, but as others have said Pacquiao has looked nothing but brilliant lately! Not just winning but dominating!
But in my eyes Floyd is just the better boxer & Pacquiao's style doesn't match-up well. I reckon Pacquiao will be in it the whole way but Floyd will just be that little step ahead
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
Sorry Pac... Teddy just picked your fate. :)
Teddy actually made a good laugh about it. Said fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me... I'm going with Pac.
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
Im gonna go with Mayweather
Re: Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?
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SaddoBoxer
Actually I'm really worried for PBF... PAC has this habit of transforming a boxers' monicker to something else... For example, "Hitman" turned to "Sh!tman".... "Golden Boy" turned to "Golden Gay" (Hoya quit, right?)...
Now imagine what PAC will make out of "Pretty Boy"?? ;D
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I hope Pac gets his head smashed in so I don't have to read all these shitty comments anymore. Pacs biggest flaw will always be his idiotic fans.
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SaddoBoxer
Actually I'm really worried for PBF... PAC has this habit of transforming a boxers' monicker to something else... For example, "Hitman" turned to "Sh!tman".... "Golden Boy" turned to "Golden Gay" (Hoya quit, right?)...
Now imagine what PAC will make out of "Pretty Boy"?? ;D
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I hope Pac gets his head smashed in so I don't have to read all these shitty comments anymore. Pacs biggest flaw will always be his idiotic fans.
Ha ha ;D That's only a warning shot... Wait when this fight gets made and signed and you'll begin seeing threads like "PAC inflicting worst beating on PBF..." ;D
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