Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags
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JT Rock
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ElTerribleMorales
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DLH, Hatton, Marquez are not big names?
If that is the case than why is Mosely begging for a fight?
Whine? :rolleyes:
Instead of asking why Mosley is begging for a fight a better question is
Why is Floyd always looking for a way to avoid one?
Yea just like if my Aunt was a man she be my Uncle, what the hell does your comment have to do with anything relevant to the convo? Mosely is on the outside looking in and begged for a Pac fight then begged for a Mayweather fight
Floyd said the same thing everyone else says when challenged TALK TO MY PROMOTER AND MANAGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he didnt deny anything.
Dont you dare give me that low ball shit either? You will be the 1st to try to tell everybody how wrong they are about the business of boxing but you are going to conveniently ignore the economics since it suits your argument. Mosely is not a big draw, never has and with a few fights left probably never will, so who does the lions share of the purse go to Daxx huh? who does it go to? Are you going to bullshit me now and tell me Mosely is a bigger draw than Mayweather? Also where is your source of this supposed low ball offer, because thats the 1st I have heard about it? Mosely was asked why he didnt fight mayweather post fight after collazzo I think and Shane said he had a loose tooth and wanted to snowboard or some shit and not talk about it
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ElTerribleMorales
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JT Rock
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ElTerribleMorales
yea and if Mayweather took on Hopkins at 160 now and by some chance beat him, what difference would it be from Pacquiao beating a shot weight drained DLH, you seriously put the the Pac Nutthuggers that used to roam here to shame :rolleyes:
My previous statement talked about a bamboozling like Pac/DLH to 160.... But since you seem to be repeating most of what I been saying but yet in some kind of a bizarro way I'm not suprised you screwed the pooch on this one too.
Also easy with the insults junior, I assure you, your barking up the wrong tree.
My track record here is alot better than yours as well as my history so before you start something you cant finish, you better stop now. Are you that bitter and angry because I started a few threads coming off a Mayweather win and all of a sudden in 72 hours I am a nuthugger?
go fuck yourself;)
plz dude, only fight i predicted brutally wrong on here was Hatton/Pacquiao, and well there were a fair share of others who did the same, cause barely anyone saw that outcome, bitter or angry? you mook i said that Mayweather looked impressive and deserved all the credit in the world for his win against Marquez, pardon me if i don't slobber on his nuts
and a few threads? you made about 3 threads about the same damn thing then commented on every one bitching and moaning when anyone didn't say that Floyd was the second coming of Jesus christ, hahaha and what's up with the online threats? pretty pathetic really, if you can't handle someone disagreeing with you well you're in the wrong place, unlike you i'm keeping my cool bout your little squabble, and unlike you i'm not blinded in favor of my favorite fighters and refuse to see what's really going on, Mayweather beats around the bush whenever they mention a top fighter's name (that's the same size or bigger than Floyd) and then he goes on to bitch and moan (sort of like you) when he doesn't get the love of the fans, he has no one to blame but himself, give the fans what they want, and they'll love you for it, it's that simple
now have a good day bud
Read my last statement and keep fucking yourself, my contributions to this forum over the years have been pretty damned good and numerous, so excuse me if I take exception to a complete fucking sniveling retard taking a run at me and calling a nuthugger and nut slobber, when I was backing my statements with well thought out posting and points while your trying to question Castillo, Corralles and Chavez. I mean really man, now run along junior
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JT Rock
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ElTerribleMorales
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JT Rock
My previous statement talked about a bamboozling like Pac/DLH to 160.... But since you seem to be repeating most of what I been saying but yet in some kind of a bizarro way I'm not suprised you screwed the pooch on this one too.
Also easy with the insults junior, I assure you, your barking up the wrong tree.
My track record here is alot better than yours as well as my history so before you start something you cant finish, you better stop now. Are you that bitter and angry because I started a few threads coming off a Mayweather win and all of a sudden in 72 hours I am a nuthugger?
go fuck yourself;)
plz dude, only fight i predicted brutally wrong on here was Hatton/Pacquiao, and well there were a fair share of others who did the same, cause barely anyone saw that outcome, bitter or angry? you mook i said that Mayweather looked impressive and deserved all the credit in the world for his win against Marquez, pardon me if i don't slobber on his nuts
and a few threads? you made about 3 threads about the same damn thing then commented on every one bitching and moaning when anyone didn't say that Floyd was the second coming of Jesus christ, hahaha and what's up with the online threats? pretty pathetic really, if you can't handle someone disagreeing with you well you're in the wrong place, unlike you i'm keeping my cool bout your little squabble, and unlike you i'm not blinded in favor of my favorite fighters and refuse to see what's really going on, Mayweather beats around the bush whenever they mention a top fighter's name (that's the same size or bigger than Floyd) and then he goes on to bitch and moan (sort of like you) when he doesn't get the love of the fans, he has no one to blame but himself, give the fans what they want, and they'll love you for it, it's that simple
now have a good day bud
Read my last statement and keep fucking yourself, my contributions to this forum over the years have been pretty damned good and numerous, so excuse me if I take exception to a complete fucking sniveling retard taking a run at me and calling a nuthugger and nut slobber, when I was backing my statements with well thought out posting and points while your trying to question Castillo, Corralles and Chavez. I mean really man, now run along junior
funny to see who's the one that gets bent out of shape, and yea learn to read buddy, i said that people could just as easily discredit Mayweather's wins over Castillo, Corrales, Chavez, and Hernandez, the same way you did Hopkins' wins over well pretty much everyone, and keep that crap off the main board ;), don't get your panties in a bunch
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Just watched the fight again and i'm curious as to what exactly did shane do? Floyd seemed to wave shane over when Max said about him and it was Hopkins who started shouting and sticking his head in, i didn't hear Shane do or say anything really?
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...OK if Shane isn't a big draw then why would Floyd never even entertain the idea of fighting Miguel Cotto a guy who only lost because his opponent cheated OR Paul Williams a guy who avenged his only loss.
You know why? Those guys are BIG and they are in their primes AND they are in a weight class that is comfortable to them and that they are proven in.
Floyd is an awesome boxer but he HAS NEVER UNIFIED OR ATTEMPTED TO UNIFY ANY DIVISION HE HAS EVER FOUGHT IN. That being 100% the case there have been AT LEAST 3 fighters per division that Floyd has either not fought, they have ducked him, or FLOYD ducked them and it is definently one of the three. Sure I can understand why Floyd wouldn't want to waste his time fighting Selcuk Aydin or Ashley Theophane....but why not someone like Cotto, Williams, Berto, etc.....I personally think Miguel Cotto is just as big of a draw as anyone else at welterweight these days so why not fight him??? Because he's not EASY money like Marquez was.....especially when Floyd is so fucking unsportsmanlike to make the God damned weight.
There was a REASON that was supposed to be a catch weight fight and everyone saw it by the end of the night. I'm not saying 2 pounds made all the difference but Floyd didn't even go to the sauna to sweat it out to be a good sport that is the cheapest shit and very unprofessional.
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ElTerribleMorales
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JT Rock
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ElTerribleMorales
plz dude, only fight i predicted brutally wrong on here was Hatton/Pacquiao, and well there were a fair share of others who did the same, cause barely anyone saw that outcome, bitter or angry? you mook i said that Mayweather looked impressive and deserved all the credit in the world for his win against Marquez, pardon me if i don't slobber on his nuts
and a few threads? you made about 3 threads about the same damn thing then commented on every one bitching and moaning when anyone didn't say that Floyd was the second coming of Jesus christ, hahaha and what's up with the online threats? pretty pathetic really, if you can't handle someone disagreeing with you well you're in the wrong place, unlike you i'm keeping my cool bout your little squabble, and unlike you i'm not blinded in favor of my favorite fighters and refuse to see what's really going on, Mayweather beats around the bush whenever they mention a top fighter's name (that's the same size or bigger than Floyd) and then he goes on to bitch and moan (sort of like you) when he doesn't get the love of the fans, he has no one to blame but himself, give the fans what they want, and they'll love you for it, it's that simple
now have a good day bud
Read my last statement and keep fucking yourself, my contributions to this forum over the years have been pretty damned good and numerous, so excuse me if I take exception to a complete fucking sniveling retard taking a run at me and calling a nuthugger and nut slobber, when I was backing my statements with well thought out posting and points while your trying to question Castillo, Corralles and Chavez. I mean really man, now run along junior
funny to see who's the one that gets bent out of shape, and yea learn to read buddy, i said that people could just as easily discredit Mayweather's wins over Castillo, Corrales, Chavez, and Hernandez, the same way you did Hopkins' wins over well pretty much everyone, and keep that crap off the main board ;), don't get your panties in a bunch
No one discredited hopkins wins, I said how can you say Mayweather only fights small guys now, when Hopkins biggest wins were against guys who were smaller than him???????? yet you still cant answer that undisputable factual reality, you are the foolish one for ignoring truth. Sure the Quality was there but certainly not the size
Even though you stated Castillo Corrales, Chavez they were all Floyds size and he fought them at their natural weight. Period, end of! thats all truth man every single last bit of it
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Lyle
...OK if Shane isn't a big draw then why would Floyd never even entertain the idea of fighting Miguel Cotto a guy who only lost because his opponent cheated OR Paul Williams a guy who avenged his only loss.
You know why? Those guys are BIG and they are in their primes AND they are in a weight class that is comfortable to them and that they are proven in.
Floyd is an awesome boxer but he HAS NEVER UNIFIED OR ATTEMPTED TO UNIFY ANY DIVISION HE HAS EVER FOUGHT IN. That being 100% the case there have been AT LEAST 3 fighters per division that Floyd has either not fought, they have ducked him, or FLOYD ducked them and it is definently one of the three. Sure I can understand why Floyd wouldn't want to waste his time fighting Selcuk Aydin or Ashley Theophane....but why not someone like Cotto, Williams, Berto, etc.....I personally think Miguel Cotto is just as big of a draw as anyone else at welterweight these days so why not fight him??? Because he's not EASY money like Marquez was.....especially when Floyd is so fucking unsportsmanlike to make the God damned weight.
There was a REASON that was supposed to be a catch weight fight and everyone saw it by the end of the night. I'm not saying 2 pounds made all the difference but Floyd didn't even go to the sauna to sweat it out to be a good sport that is the cheapest shit and very unprofessional.
He won the lineal title from shitty Baldomir, then fought in 2 of the biggest moneymaking events of the past 25 years. name me a boxer that would have ignored all of that to fight a prospect at the time Williams or Cotto Mosely who fought 1 month before he fought Hatton? Then he took a Comeback fight after almost 2 years against JMM. I mean read man, If his next 1-2 fights are against Jorge Lianres or Tim Bradley than I'll join the witchunt, but the majority of you are being bitter pricks...
According to all of you Floyd was irrelevant when he retired, you hated he was #1, now you have your exciting be all end all Henry Armstrong Manny Pacquiao. So the good news is you dont have to worry about Floyd you should all be more occupied with Pac;)
Last time I checked contracts dont get signed during post fight interviews, so all of you bleeding hearts with your arms around Shanse Mosely calling Floyd a pussy really need to grow up already
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Never seen JT so riled up! Floyd is a pussy,;D Shane would not ever contemplate fighting a JMM. Would Floyd have ever taken the risk of fighting anyone that has beaten Shane. No chance.
Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags
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Anyone know what he actuallly weighed once the bell rang?
195 lbs :o
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Lyle
...OK if Shane isn't a big draw then why would Floyd never even entertain the idea of fighting Miguel Cotto a guy who only lost because his opponent cheated OR Paul Williams a guy who avenged his only loss.
You know why? Those guys are BIG and they are in their primes AND they are in a weight class that is comfortable to them and that they are proven in.
Floyd is an awesome boxer but he HAS NEVER UNIFIED OR ATTEMPTED TO UNIFY ANY DIVISION HE HAS EVER FOUGHT IN. That being 100% the case there have been AT LEAST 3 fighters per division that Floyd has either not fought, they have ducked him, or FLOYD ducked them and it is definently one of the three. Sure I can understand why Floyd wouldn't want to waste his time fighting Selcuk Aydin or Ashley Theophane....but why not someone like Cotto, Williams, Berto, etc.....I personally think Miguel Cotto is just as big of a draw as anyone else at welterweight these days so why not fight him??? Because he's not EASY money like Marquez was.....especially when Floyd is so fucking unsportsmanlike to make the God damned weight.
There was a REASON that was supposed to be a catch weight fight and everyone saw it by the end of the night. I'm not saying 2 pounds made all the difference but Floyd didn't even go to the sauna to sweat it out to be a good sport that is the cheapest shit and very unprofessional.
The weight made a big difference....If it was not a difference he would have made it....When a guy rather lose $600,000 then make the agreed weight it is because he knows it will be a factor to him one way or another....IF Floyd knows it would not make a difference then it lowers his self class even more by just being as ass and not making his weight....I guess he is not a man of his word......
Floyd for all his talent as a positive his attitude and his way of thinking equal the talent but in an opposite way....
He has shown to be low class and like you said he has never cleaned out a division by fighting the best 3 guys in each division....
I had respect for Floyd at one time but for all his actions his talent means squat
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I gotta disagree. Mayweather didn't out muscle juan. Or physically overpower him in any way. He outboxed him plain and simple. He didn't lean on juan, wear him out any of that, actually juan barely got a chance to even touch the guy. They could have battled this fight out on x box and the outcome would have been the same. When floyd fought oscar who was bigger no one cried a damn tear. Same for oscar and steve forbes, clottey and just about everyone etc....But i could be wrong and that's more reason floyd shouldn't waste our time with pac or any other small guy. Let's see he fights a guy bigger no credit (except for pac then it was the greatest victory ever) fights a smaller guy no credit. Floyd could beat himself and people would still cry afterward. If marquez would have won, you wouldn't have heard any of this. It would be nice to see a guy just loose for once.....shake hands get back the gym and get better.
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Master
Never seen JT so riled up! Floyd is a pussy,;D Shane would not ever contemplate fighting a JMM. Would Floyd have ever taken the risk of fighting anyone that has beaten Shane. No chance.
yea, funny to see him try and spin that shit around also lol
Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags
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JT Rock
Instead of asking why Mosley is begging for a fight a better question is
Why is Floyd always looking for a way to avoid one?
Yea just like if my Aunt was a man she be my Uncle, what the hell does your comment have to do with anything relevant to the convo? Mosely is on the outside looking in and begged for a Pac fight then begged for a Mayweather fight
Floyd said the same thing everyone else says when challenged TALK TO MY PROMOTER AND MANAGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he didnt deny anything.
Dont you dare give me that low ball shit either? You will be the 1st to try to tell everybody how wrong they are about the business of boxing but you are going to conveniently ignore the economics since it suits your argument. Mosely is not a big draw, never has and with a few fights left probably never will, so who does the lions share of the purse go to Daxx huh? who does it go to? Are you going to bullshit me now and tell me Mosely is a bigger draw than Mayweather? Also where is your source of this supposed low ball offer, because thats the 1st I have heard about it? Mosely was asked why he didnt fight mayweather post fight after collazzo I think and Shane said he had a loose tooth and wanted to snowboard or some shit and not talk about it
Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....
BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!
Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...
Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....
When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....
Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...
And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....
OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting:confused:.....
I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one
As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?
So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?
OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?
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JT Rock
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Lyle
...OK if Shane isn't a big draw then why would Floyd never even entertain the idea of fighting Miguel Cotto a guy who only lost because his opponent cheated OR Paul Williams a guy who avenged his only loss.
You know why? Those guys are BIG and they are in their primes AND they are in a weight class that is comfortable to them and that they are proven in.
Floyd is an awesome boxer but he HAS NEVER UNIFIED OR ATTEMPTED TO UNIFY ANY DIVISION HE HAS EVER FOUGHT IN. That being 100% the case there have been AT LEAST 3 fighters per division that Floyd has either not fought, they have ducked him, or FLOYD ducked them and it is definently one of the three. Sure I can understand why Floyd wouldn't want to waste his time fighting Selcuk Aydin or Ashley Theophane....but why not someone like Cotto, Williams, Berto, etc.....I personally think Miguel Cotto is just as big of a draw as anyone else at welterweight these days so why not fight him??? Because he's not EASY money like Marquez was.....especially when Floyd is so fucking unsportsmanlike to make the God damned weight.
There was a REASON that was supposed to be a catch weight fight and everyone saw it by the end of the night. I'm not saying 2 pounds made all the difference but Floyd didn't even go to the sauna to sweat it out to be a good sport that is the cheapest shit and very unprofessional.
He won the lineal title from shitty Baldomir, then fought in 2 of the biggest moneymaking events of the past 25 years. name me a boxer that would have ignored all of that to fight a prospect at the time Williams or Cotto Mosely who fought 1 month before he fought Hatton? Then he took a Comeback fight after almost 2 years against JMM. I mean read man, If his next 1-2 fights are against Jorge Lianres or Tim Bradley than I'll join the witchunt, but the majority of you are being bitter pricks...
According to all of you Floyd was irrelevant when he retired, you hated he was #1, now you have your exciting be all end all Henry Armstrong Manny Pacquiao. So the good news is you dont have to worry about Floyd you should all be more occupied with Pac;)
Last time I checked contracts dont get signed during post fight interviews, so all of you bleeding hearts with your arms around Shanse Mosely calling Floyd a pussy really need to grow up already
Paul Williams is begging for a fight with ANYONE right now....So has nothignt o do with Bleeding hearts and Mosley...Has to do with Floyd not going after an opponent he KNOWS he will beat....REAL champions don't go after fighters they know are less talented they seek the best available...Floyd since he left 135 has sought out the weakest link in every division...FACT...His record speaks for itself.......Hatton was tailor made for any counter puncher and he kept Floyd busy for a while....He certainly did not shut out Oscar and that was a far from best DLH
Re: Mosely, Hopkins are 2 low rent scumbags
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Yea just like if my Aunt was a man she be my Uncle, what the hell does your comment have to do with anything relevant to the convo? Mosely is on the outside looking in and begged for a Pac fight then begged for a Mayweather fight
Floyd said the same thing everyone else says when challenged TALK TO MY PROMOTER AND MANAGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he didnt deny anything.
Dont you dare give me that low ball shit either? You will be the 1st to try to tell everybody how wrong they are about the business of boxing but you are going to conveniently ignore the economics since it suits your argument. Mosely is not a big draw, never has and with a few fights left probably never will, so who does the lions share of the purse go to Daxx huh? who does it go to? Are you going to bullshit me now and tell me Mosely is a bigger draw than Mayweather? Also where is your source of this supposed low ball offer, because thats the 1st I have heard about it? Mosely was asked why he didnt fight mayweather post fight after collazzo I think and Shane said he had a loose tooth and wanted to snowboard or some shit and not talk about it
Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....
BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!
Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...
Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....
When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....
Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...
And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....
OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting:confused:.....
I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one
As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?
So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?
OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?
Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?
Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?
Please humor me and answer those 3 questions;)
