Super six tournament!!!!

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

Taylor the bigger man up top than the chicken chested Abraham. I think both guy's have good skill but I am going with Taylor for a UD.

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Although we dont agree on much, in principle I'm with you on this but the reality is, Taylor has to pitch a shutout with at least 3 knockdowns to earn a draw in Germany with a Sauerland event..

Unfortunately if its a booger decision I can see Sauerland ruining this whole tournament. If AA or Taylor dont knock the other out and Taylor dominates the fight legitimately, I'll sure as hell be cringing when they go to the cards. With that many promoters involved each one isint going to want to see his fighter screwed like that...

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I honestly think we do agree on alot of thing's except David Haye. Anyway I hope Jermain gets a fair shake if he does well. It would suck if he looked good and finished strong only to find out it was a blowout on the cards.

Put me down for Taylor. I'm such a big fan, my vote does to him even with my heavy doubt he can pull it off!hehe

im going with JT on this one, hopefully he does come in with bad intention. When he does thats when his at his best.

Man this would be easier the other way around cause I'd pick Taylor to loose for sure (at the same time I'll admit I'm a little shady and will root for the poor guy), but I pick either Abraham or ward. If I can only choose one put it on ward.

Can we wait until after the weekend? ;D

froch;D

I've said it before and I'll say it again.... Kessler!

I am going with Ward, I believe he will have a loss if he has to fight Direll , other than that He wins.

It's a tough choice.

I don't think it will be any of Froch, Ward or Taylor.

Froch because he doesn't have the skillset to get him through this tournament of five fights relying on power & heart. It dug him out of a hole against Taylor, but you can't rely on that every fight & I feel that's all he's got.

Ward still struggles to convince me. He has a questionable power & chin. Yes he may outbox more than a few fighters along the way, but I just think he's liable to drop too many rounds & I'm not sure he could deal with the bigger punchers in this.

Taylor is either already on the slide or will be as the tournament progresses. 18 months is a long time in boxing & I just don't see JT having enough to carry him to the finish.

The 3 that I'm obviously torn between are Kessler, Abraham & Dirrell.

Kessler appears to be the most exceptional fighter in the bunch, I find it hard to really see anything that he does poorly. However, I think he can struggle with speed a bit, I felt he dropped rounds to Mundine on this basis & it obviously affected him against Calzaghe. I think he's the best, but I can also see him losing one along the way, maybe at the semi-final stage.

Abraham I think is a guy who doesn't look as good as he is. We all see the flaws & yet he seems to find a way to win even if he's having an off-night. I think this tournament could be his motivation to really step it up. He's also very good at boxing the bigger man & has enough that I would fancy him to beat the vast majority of fighters. His defence is very good & I expect him to beat Taylor similar to how I believe Winky Wright did. Still, one key problem is that apart from his win over Miranda he's as unproven at SMW as Dirrell or Ward. It's hard to bank on him when we don't know how he'll deal with these bigger guys.

Dirrell really shouldn't be near the discussion. He's the least experienced, hasn't always looked great & there are questions over his chin. But, I just feel his natural gifts exceed that of every other fighter in the tournament. A lot relys on the Froch fight. If he wins that than I think he will start to have the necessary experience to win the whole thing.

A lot of that is due to the length of the tournament. If the final was next summer I'd favour Abraham or Kessler. However, it's almost a year after that & I feel Dirrell & Ward are the only 2 fighters with no wear & tear on them. As I said, I don't rate Ward that much, so I think that if Dirrell can get past Froch, he will start to peak as a fighter as the tournament goes on, whilst I suspect the others might start to slip a bit. Also the fact no one else picked him made me want to give him a pity vote. So despite the fact, a lot tells me it will be Abraham or Kessler, I'm gonna go with Andre Dirrell. :-X

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

It's a tough choice.

I don't think it will be any of Froch, Ward or Taylor.

Froch because he doesn't have the skillset to get him through this tournament of five fights relying on power & heart. It dug him out of a hole against Taylor, but you can't rely on that every fight & I feel that's all he's got.

Ward still struggles to convince me. He has a questionable power & chin. Yes he may outbox more than a few fighters along the way, but I just think he's liable to drop too many rounds & I'm not sure he could deal with the bigger punchers in this.

Taylor is either already on the slide or will be as the tournament progresses. 18 months is a long time in boxing & I just don't see JT having enough to carry him to the finish.

The 3 that I'm obviously torn between are Kessler, Abraham & Dirrell.

Kessler appears to be the most exceptional fighter in the bunch, I find it hard to really see anything that he does poorly. However, I think he can struggle with speed a bit, I felt he dropped rounds to Mundine on this basis & it obviously affected him against Calzaghe. I think he's the best, but I can also see him losing one along the way, maybe at the semi-final stage.

Abraham I think is a guy who doesn't look as good as he is. We all see the flaws & yet he seems to find a way to win even if he's having an off-night. I think this tournament could be his motivation to really step it up. He's also very good at boxing the bigger man & has enough that I would fancy him to beat the vast majority of fighters. His defence is very good & I expect him to beat Taylor similar to how I believe Winky Wright did. Still, one key problem is that apart from his win over Miranda he's as unproven at SMW as Dirrell or Ward. It's hard to bank on him when we don't know how he'll deal with these bigger guys.

Dirrell really shouldn't be near the discussion. He's the least experienced, hasn't always looked great & there are questions over his chin. But, I just feel his natural gifts exceed that of every other fighter in the tournament. A lot relys on the Froch fight. If he wins that than I think he will start to have the necessary experience to win the whole thing.

A lot of that is due to the length of the tournament. If the final was next summer I'd favour Abraham or Kessler. However, it's almost a year after that & I feel Dirrell & Ward are the only 2 fighters with no wear & tear on them. As I said, I don't rate Ward that much, so I think that if Dirrell can get past Froch, he will start to peak as a fighter as the tournament goes on, whilst I suspect the others might start to slip a bit. Also the fact no one else picked him made me want to give him a pity vote. So despite the fact, a lot tells me it will be Abraham or Kessler, I'm gonna go with Andre Dirrell. :-X

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How can you question Ward's chin when he is only been down once in the amateurs??

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Originally Posted by markb018

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

It's a tough choice.

I don't think it will be any of Froch, Ward or Taylor.

Froch because he doesn't have the skillset to get him through this tournament of five fights relying on power & heart. It dug him out of a hole against Taylor, but you can't rely on that every fight & I feel that's all he's got.

Ward still struggles to convince me. He has a questionable power & chin. Yes he may outbox more than a few fighters along the way, but I just think he's liable to drop too many rounds & I'm not sure he could deal with the bigger punchers in this.

Taylor is either already on the slide or will be as the tournament progresses. 18 months is a long time in boxing & I just don't see JT having enough to carry him to the finish.

The 3 that I'm obviously torn between are Kessler, Abraham & Dirrell.

Kessler appears to be the most exceptional fighter in the bunch, I find it hard to really see anything that he does poorly. However, I think he can struggle with speed a bit, I felt he dropped rounds to Mundine on this basis & it obviously affected him against Calzaghe. I think he's the best, but I can also see him losing one along the way, maybe at the semi-final stage.

Abraham I think is a guy who doesn't look as good as he is. We all see the flaws & yet he seems to find a way to win even if he's having an off-night. I think this tournament could be his motivation to really step it up. He's also very good at boxing the bigger man & has enough that I would fancy him to beat the vast majority of fighters. His defence is very good & I expect him to beat Taylor similar to how I believe Winky Wright did. Still, one key problem is that apart from his win over Miranda he's as unproven at SMW as Dirrell or Ward. It's hard to bank on him when we don't know how he'll deal with these bigger guys.

Dirrell really shouldn't be near the discussion. He's the least experienced, hasn't always looked great & there are questions over his chin. But, I just feel his natural gifts exceed that of every other fighter in the tournament. A lot relys on the Froch fight. If he wins that than I think he will start to have the necessary experience to win the whole thing.

A lot of that is due to the length of the tournament. If the final was next summer I'd favour Abraham or Kessler. However, it's almost a year after that & I feel Dirrell & Ward are the only 2 fighters with no wear & tear on them. As I said, I don't rate Ward that much, so I think that if Dirrell can get past Froch, he will start to peak as a fighter as the tournament goes on, whilst I suspect the others might start to slip a bit. Also the fact no one else picked him made me want to give him a pity vote. So despite the fact, a lot tells me it will be Abraham or Kessler, I'm gonna go with Andre Dirrell. :-X

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How can you question Ward's chin when he is only been down once in the amateurs??

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Sorry to burst your bubble mate Ward has been down in his pro career and todate he has fought a bunch of tomato cans.

His chin looks shaky to me.

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Originally Posted by markb018

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

It's a tough choice.

I don't think it will be any of Froch, Ward or Taylor.

Froch because he doesn't have the skillset to get him through this tournament of five fights relying on power & heart. It dug him out of a hole against Taylor, but you can't rely on that every fight & I feel that's all he's got.

Ward still struggles to convince me. He has a questionable power & chin. Yes he may outbox more than a few fighters along the way, but I just think he's liable to drop too many rounds & I'm not sure he could deal with the bigger punchers in this.

Taylor is either already on the slide or will be as the tournament progresses. 18 months is a long time in boxing & I just don't see JT having enough to carry him to the finish.

The 3 that I'm obviously torn between are Kessler, Abraham & Dirrell.

Kessler appears to be the most exceptional fighter in the bunch, I find it hard to really see anything that he does poorly. However, I think he can struggle with speed a bit, I felt he dropped rounds to Mundine on this basis & it obviously affected him against Calzaghe. I think he's the best, but I can also see him losing one along the way, maybe at the semi-final stage.

Abraham I think is a guy who doesn't look as good as he is. We all see the flaws & yet he seems to find a way to win even if he's having an off-night. I think this tournament could be his motivation to really step it up. He's also very good at boxing the bigger man & has enough that I would fancy him to beat the vast majority of fighters. His defence is very good & I expect him to beat Taylor similar to how I believe Winky Wright did. Still, one key problem is that apart from his win over Miranda he's as unproven at SMW as Dirrell or Ward. It's hard to bank on him when we don't know how he'll deal with these bigger guys.

Dirrell really shouldn't be near the discussion. He's the least experienced, hasn't always looked great & there are questions over his chin. But, I just feel his natural gifts exceed that of every other fighter in the tournament. A lot relys on the Froch fight. If he wins that than I think he will start to have the necessary experience to win the whole thing.

A lot of that is due to the length of the tournament. If the final was next summer I'd favour Abraham or Kessler. However, it's almost a year after that & I feel Dirrell & Ward are the only 2 fighters with no wear & tear on them. As I said, I don't rate Ward that much, so I think that if Dirrell can get past Froch, he will start to peak as a fighter as the tournament goes on, whilst I suspect the others might start to slip a bit. Also the fact no one else picked him made me want to give him a pity vote. So despite the fact, a lot tells me it will be Abraham or Kessler, I'm gonna go with Andre Dirrell. :-X

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How can you question Ward's chin when he is only been down once in the amateurs??

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Sorry to burst your bubble mate Ward has been down in his pro career and todate he has fought a bunch of tomato cans.

His chin looks shaky to me.

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He was knocked down in 05, turns out he wasnt knocked down in the amateur fights. Still don't buy that he has a questionable chin. He took a few solid shots from Miranda and looked fine.

Put me down for Jermain Taylor.. think if he sorts out his cardio issues he's easily the most talented guy in the tournament.

surprise, Kessler is my choice;D

stick me down on that long list of knowledgeable Kessler pickers! ;D