Coldest winter in 30years in the UK, so what do the Global Warming experts say?

OK Nameless, you feel free to take that stance but people have said that for 100 years and a bet you money that the Earth is still going strong in 2050

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Originally Posted by Lyle

OK Nameless, you feel free to take that stance but people have said that for 100 years and a bet you money that the Earth is still going strong in 2050

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I bet its Hell.

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Originally Posted by Andre

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Originally Posted by Lyle

OK Nameless, you feel free to take that stance but people have said that for 100 years and a bet you money that the Earth is still going strong in 2050

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I bet its Hell.

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...see you in 2050....I would like my money when we meet up too ;)

I will be gone mate.

Unless Im a head in a bubbling jar like on Futurama

(you can carry me around Lyle)

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Originally Posted by Lyle

A tiny island? America is getting pummled by snow....we got a pretty decent snowfall here in North Carolina in DECEMBER!!! That usually doesn't happen, we usually don't get hit with snow or ice until February or March....so don't go telling me it's just one tiny island that is cold.

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I seem to remember the post that I was replying to being about the UK?

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

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A tiny island? America is getting pummled by snow....we got a pretty decent snowfall here in North Carolina in DECEMBER!!! That usually doesn't happen, we usually don't get hit with snow or ice until February or March....so don't go telling me it's just one tiny island that is cold.

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I seem to remember the post that I was replying to being about the UK?

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...and I'm explaining to you that's not the only place it's cold this winter

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Originally Posted by Andre

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OK Nameless, you feel free to take that stance but people have said that for 100 years and a bet you money that the Earth is still going strong in 2050

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I bet its Hell.

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I bet it is too. I'm not looking forward to having to spend my retirement back in the dark ages where we are all competiting for a diminishing foodstock and seeing everything turn to chaos because of our own greed and inability to face up to our moral obligations. Farming is the job of the future, we need good farmers. Good land will be reduced and freak weather will destroy more crops. People will pay farmers more to stay on top of things. It's too late though, we should have been supporting farming while we had the chance. In Korea the farmers are all old people and are slow and inefficient. That means more reliance on imports. Same with the UK too, our self sufficiency has been falling for the past 3 decades.

My plan is to move to the countryside and grow my own potatoes, get out of this hellhole that we call civilisation.

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A tiny island? America is getting pummled by snow....we got a pretty decent snowfall here in North Carolina in DECEMBER!!! That usually doesn't happen, we usually don't get hit with snow or ice until February or March....so don't go telling me it's just one tiny island that is cold.

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I seem to remember the post that I was replying to being about the UK?

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...and I'm explaining to you that's not the only place it's cold this winter

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I noticed :)

This changes the fact that I was replying to the original post that was soley about the UK how exactly?

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Oh, and by the way, why don't you bastards stay on topic?

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lyle, you've managed to talk about Swine Flu, Y2K, second hand smoke, terrorism, democrats and so forth... :p

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Oh, and by the way, why don't you bastards stay on topic?

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lyle, you've managed to talk about Swine Flu, Y2K, second hand smoke, terrorism, democrats and so forth... :p

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All I might add were relating to the main topic which in a nutshell is "Man Made Global Warming". I related the topics together by saying that they are all false pandemics and/or the way people are going about trying to solve such issues is wrong. How can I prove that about Global Warming? Well what is the biggest issue the greenies like to bring up? CO2 emissions! So they want us to eventually switch to a hydrogen powered car which emits H2O which is?????? A GREENHOUSE GAS!!!! So you see that doesn't SOLVE anything it just creates a different problem, also with it being so humid in the Southeastern US to begin with I would assume that EVERYONE driving cars that emit H2O would only exacerbate the problem.

I'm just sick of fucking hearing about it is all and eventually I'll be sick of the higher energy prices, food prices, and tax increases due to legislation meant to benefit "Mother Earth" but that don't come close to doing any thing but line the pockets of creatins like Al Gore.

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Oh, and by the way, why don't you bastards stay on topic?

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lyle, you've managed to talk about Swine Flu, Y2K, second hand smoke, terrorism, democrats and so forth... :p

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All I might add were relating to the main topic which in a nutshell is "Man Made Global Warming". I related the topics together by saying that they are all false pandemics and/or the way people are going about trying to solve such issues is wrong. How can I prove that about Global Warming? Well what is the biggest issue the greenies like to bring up? CO2 emissions! So they want us to eventually switch to a hydrogen powered car which emits H2O which is?????? A GREENHOUSE GAS!!!! So you see that doesn't SOLVE anything it just creates a different problem, also with it being so humid in the Southeastern US to begin with I would assume that EVERYONE driving cars that emit H2O would only exacerbate the problem.

I'm just sick of fucking hearing about it is all and eventually I'll be sick of the higher energy prices, food prices, and tax increases due to legislation meant to benefit "Mother Earth" but that don't come close to doing any thing but line the pockets of creatins like Al Gore.

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Ahh good theres the truth right there, in the ending of your post none of us can argue aboutthat mate that is whats happening for real.


Some thing else thats happening for real as I turn and look out the window;
(After we had 36 at midnight the other day and 45 in the day.)

Today I belive its snowing on the mountains here.

If its not it should be, its like a monsoon here but with a cold wind behind it.

At lest its not boring.

There's truth in every bit of that post Andre not just the I'm sick of hearing about it/the politicians lining their pockets...if we implimented every little tiny detail that the greenies wanted us to and we didn't pollute at all....they would still find something to bitch about AND people would still be predicting the end of the world and in the end that's the shit that bothers me the most.

Well I dont belive it is a total false pandemic.

Parts of it are for sure.
The fact that Politics is buying into it, that makes it profitable in terms of votes or cash. (instant falseness alert right there) for both sides.

Both sides of the political arenas are out to feather their own nests at the expense of each other firstly as opposition, but also at the expense of sane middle of the road non political thinking.

Both have separate agendas and they choose our Earthly predicaments as swinging points to get the public emotionally involved and try to get them out onto the sides for votes and more cash. (no other reason).

They dont give fuk mate, outside of their "Team winning" they are pollies full of waffle; Within those groups they teach each person how they have to think about a subject in order to be in the group.
(both sides are out on the sides).

Meanwhile the middle ground is dieing off: We are all to blame for a lot of the changes in climate.Mate we strip land flat and sow grass and it shifts rain patterns,that is basic stuff.
We learned it here in real terms. Some farmers re treed what was once laid flat,the roots bound the earth which held more water in and now they have water retention instead of water run off.

These men have green farms, surrounding them is brown earth for sale.

We make mistakes mate, we are human,agriculture has been a mismanagement of chemicals and false fast pay offs that we now have to correct.

You change the ground ,you change the rain patterns.

We do change the ground,we change it more than any other species does.

What about deforestation of the amazon? Has that any effects on rainfall and on weather patterns?

If you cant see that we do have our effects even on the slightest of levels. I'd be asking why cant I see that? Am I on the outside with an agenda in opposition?

Its going to piss you off I know.

We as white People are as dumb as shit in regards to managment of land.(planet Earth) we are greedy fukkers and try to get more for less all the time.

Now we pay through our health because the real life force energy is no longer in the foods.

Our Black brothers didnt just have 4 seasons they had about 13 and would mange the culls of each species ,the burning off and the reaping of foods in coordination with those 13 seasons and they lasted here for 30 million years.

They cry at what we have done to their Earth we are so dumb on some levels and yet we are so adamant that we are right and they are stupid.

We will see .


PS New york tips their rubbish into the ocean on an island made of rubbish.

Sh!t that cant have any effects!

We still pump sewerage into the sea.

Rubbish from streets isnt caught in nets ,it goes straight down the drains with all the added chemicals from cigarettes that the filters that smokers throw down into the streets.

By the way its not the second hand smoke that comes out of your lungs that hurts children its the unfiltered stuff that is burning straight off the tip of the cigarette into the the car you have them tied into, that has effects on their health.


We had nuclear waste in drums tipped into the ocean for years and years.

Industrial exhaust fumes, cemical runoff into rivers destroying the amphibians (which our survival is related directly to) .

Shark hunting to near extinction which depletes other fishing via the smaller reef sharks growing in numbers (because we have eaten their only predators) then those greater numbers of reef shark eat all the bait fish out).

Thats how fukkin dumb we are Lyle.

And Im not saying you, so dont get upset mate, Im saying we.

Ps you are about to ask "So what are you doing about it Andre".

Well Ive been stretching heaps Lyle and by the time I think it occurs I'll be able to kiss my own ass goodbye. ;D