How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

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03-05-2010, 07:42 PM
Lefty

Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

Not an awful lot to be honest. Started watching around 2006 and only knew Calzaghe and Hatton for British fighters. Calzaghe v Lacy was massive and pretty much followed up on that. I'm trying to learn more everyday, only way to do that is the internet and by watching fights. The current boxing scene I feel I know quite a bit, but not a lot in terms of fights in the 70's, 80's etc.
03-05-2010, 08:12 PM
johnmaff36

Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Everyone in boxing uses the internet these days - boxers, trainers, managers, promoters the lot.

As for fans knowledge - it has nothing to do with being in a gym, knowing fighters or being involved with people in the trade.

You don't have to experience being punched in the face to form an opinion. Some fighters/trainers are terrible fight pickers.

Anyone can research and become an expert on the history of boxing. No different to taking an interest in anything.

You have no idea how much i dislike those views that you have posted but unfortunately,for me, your 100% completely right. I aint no expert but anything i know is through years of watching bad VHS tapes, going to fights or having to traipse to the library to search for books. Jesus i sound like an old man (im 38 and using a PC 3yrs). But it was harder in the 80s as a kid to quench my thirst for info on fighters nevermind being able to watch them at the click of a button in your own home. But thats technology for you. Fair play to the guys using it to buff up their game. It there to be used so why not use it. Ive had debates with casual fans who will argue Ali was the best ever, (im a huge Ali fan myself), but they've never heard of doug jones, chuvalo or bonavena. They base their argument on the small amount of fights they've seen i.e. frazier, norton, foreman. So,although im in agreement with them to a certain extent, i wanna shout at them to use the net and take advantage of being able to see other fights and fighters and not just the guys they have heard off through popular culture. Im starting to rant here;D so i'll finish by saying that the Net is a great equaliser for anyone who hasnt put the time in, rightly or wrongly. Maybe im subconsiously jealous
03-05-2010, 08:56 PM
Hulk

Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

re: TM

He didn't train anyone, including his wife. Atleast he never stepped in or worked a corner with her in it. She trained elsewhere and with others near as I can recall. He made reference to being a match maker often and being on the ph all day. About traveling all over the world and how a boxer should eat when traveling. This amounted to greasy burger joints and Denny's "Cuz the road is a rough place and that is all you can afford, and if you were making the deals all day like me and knew the buis, you'd understand."

The nearest I can tell is that he knows a few people in the neighborhood who compete in the WV RoughNRowdy tough man contest, because his wife won one of them, and claimed to have them as fighters, and in such a way you couldn't ever nail him down to exactly who and where. But you can be sure their diets consisted of cheesy fries and pogo sticks...

I do know he trained Kid Thunder by the ph and e-mail, after me asking if he could give Andrew some help and keep him off the main boards after embarassing himself (Andrew) and being attacted in response to his many ridiculous assertions. So I feel a bit bad about getting that in play, but also couldn't see the harm in maybe Andrew getting a bit more fit no matter how nuts the person doing the helping was.

Then came the Mack fight, to which TM sent a PM (haha that sounds awesome TM, PM) to Mack's manager, and all of a sudden he was apparantly writing the game plan for Yusef's big match...flying so far under the radar that even Yusef and Mack's trainer John Tandy weren't aware of it. :headscratch:

Then came the fix. The big fight in where his wife fought some chic who by all acounts pummeled her, only to have TM suggesting it was all fixed, everything from them (the Mayweathers) stealing his corner mans credentials so he couldn't make the trip, to the judges, the matches makers and even people of that island where it was... all of them ofc in on it against...well, him.

And for all this (and much more), we eternally miss TM, aka Trainer Monkey...the most colorful person ever to grace the pages of Saddos. Or how once put by Bilbo..."the craziest backwoods hillbilly ever to hang a bag in a shed."

Jesus Christ...

Its like that movie Shutter Island...

Trainer Monkey was one of the mental patients himself !

And to think we were once friends on myspace...
03-05-2010, 09:02 PM
killersheep

Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by killersheep

I don't know a thing about boxing. I use boxrec for facts, especially for dates and timelines. I try to watch as much boxing as I can in a week ESPN2, Vs. Telemundo, Telefutura, HBO, Showtime, Fox Sports, TyC streams, ARD streams, Sky streams, etc. etc. I have trained a bit and sparred a bit at a few local gyms. I don't know any pros.

You are my FNF news source!!!!....The Cable guide never tells who is on FNF and
I am usually too lazy to look it up and since you give the line up every week I usually just log on to see what you posed for the weeks fights....

You had a thread up recently that gave us the month of March.....Some cracking bouts so I know it is worth watching till April.....

To be honest I'm more interested in ESPN2 level fights over the HBO/Showtime Main Event stuff. Don't get me wrong I like the mega-fights too, but I love keeping up on prospects.
03-05-2010, 09:19 PM
DaxxKahn

Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by killersheep

I don't know a thing about boxing. I use boxrec for facts, especially for dates and timelines. I try to watch as much boxing as I can in a week ESPN2, Vs. Telemundo, Telefutura, HBO, Showtime, Fox Sports, TyC streams, ARD streams, Sky streams, etc. etc. I have trained a bit and sparred a bit at a few local gyms. I don't know any pros.

You are my FNF news source!!!!....The Cable guide never tells who is on FNF and
I am usually too lazy to look it up and since you give the line up every week I usually just log on to see what you posed for the weeks fights....

You had a thread up recently that gave us the month of March.....Some cracking bouts so I know it is worth watching till April.....

To be honest I'm more interested in ESPN2 level fights over the HBO/Showtime Main Event stuff. Don't get me wrong I like the mega-fights too, but I love keeping up on prospects.

Oh for sure....I mean when you think about it most of the mega names in the sport...Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao, Hopkins, JMM, The Klitschkos, PBF and those who all came about the same time wilol be retiring over the next 5 yrs or so (though I don't think Hopkins ages ever so he will be cruiserweight champ sometime in 2020) and those who right now are starting to become big names may not last for all we know they will fade as quickly as they started to rise...So it is great to see what the next batch of up comers will be...I like trying to figure out who will actually be a big name down the line
03-06-2010, 01:32 AM
killersheep

Re: How much do you REALLY know about boxing???

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

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Originally Posted by killersheep

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

You are my FNF news source!!!!....The Cable guide never tells who is on FNF and
I am usually too lazy to look it up and since you give the line up every week I usually just log on to see what you posed for the weeks fights....

You had a thread up recently that gave us the month of March.....Some cracking bouts so I know it is worth watching till April.....

To be honest I'm more interested in ESPN2 level fights over the HBO/Showtime Main Event stuff. Don't get me wrong I like the mega-fights too, but I love keeping up on prospects.

Oh for sure....I mean when you think about it most of the mega names in the sport...Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao, Hopkins, JMM, The Klitschkos, PBF and those who all came about the same time wilol be retiring over the next 5 yrs or so (though I don't think Hopkins ages ever so he will be cruiserweight champ sometime in 2020) and those who right now are starting to become big names may not last for all we know they will fade as quickly as they started to rise...So it is great to see what the next batch of up comers will be...I like trying to figure out who will actually be a big name down the line

One of these days I'm going to do a fantasy boxing game, I know Galaxy did one, but I have a few twists I'd like to put on it.

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