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That's not the first time this has been said ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
I had to go rewatch at least that part in round 2. Mosely would of if he could of. He wanted it. Mayweather did all the tying up he could to keep it from happening.
Note: Mayweather had (prior to the hard shots) been keeping his left hand extremly low for extended periods of time. After getting hit, he only dropped the left hand for very short momments. (at least when he was in range of Mosley)
Ie: Mayweather learned his lesson. He hadnt fully respected Moselys ability till then. (so it appeared to me)
Not going to argue with you or try to change your mind, but rather bring up a few things.. We've seen Floyd do this to people in the past, he's left them gun shy because of his counters.. Shane also through hard punches later in the fight and missed.. he loaded up on a few, and you can't really miss that close on purpose if he wasn't really trying to KO mayweather..Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONThat's not the first time this has been said ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
besides all of the physical stuff in the ring.. i can't see shane taking such a smaller % of money, and talking the trash that he did publicly about how mayweather won't beat him, and then throwing the fight? There are too many parties involved, and shane didn't get an absolute enormous amount of money to throw one of the biggest fights of his career. There was a rematch clause in the fight, if Floyd DID get KO'd in that second round, i'd see an immediate rematch of the fight, which would do HUGE money, then if mayweather wins the rematch and even possibly a third fight, also, the Pac fight would still be huge a year or two from now.. plus it's not like pac is undefeated and it would be undefeated vs undefeated.
i just think there was too much involved in a mega fight like this for it to be fixed.. again, not arguing, but just understanding where you're coming from and trying to make light of it.
I want to believe you're right. Seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3
Wobbling mayweather is a sure sign thats the moment to pull the trigger. Your never going to beat this guy on points he is just too fast and busy for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3
Same thing happened with hatton, he had him in the 1st round and wobbled him bad, he took the "i can build from that" approach instead of finishing it there and then
Floyd's not losing that 0 for any amount of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33Not going to argue with you or try to change your mind, but rather bring up a few things.. We've seen Floyd do this to people in the past, he's left them gun shy because of his counters.. Shane also through hard punches later in the fight and missed.. he loaded up on a few, and you can't really miss that close on purpose if he wasn't really trying to KO mayweather..Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONThat's not the first time this has been said ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
besides all of the physical stuff in the ring.. i can't see shane taking such a smaller % of money, and talking the trash that he did publicly about how mayweather won't beat him, and then throwing the fight? There are too many parties involved, and shane didn't get an absolute enormous amount of money to throw one of the biggest fights of his career. There was a rematch clause in the fight, if Floyd DID get KO'd in that second round, i'd see an immediate rematch of the fight, which would do HUGE money, then if mayweather wins the rematch and even possibly a third fight, also, the Pac fight would still be huge a year or two from now.. plus it's not like pac is undefeated and it would be undefeated vs undefeated.
i just think there was too much involved in a mega fight like this for it to be fixed.. again, not arguing, but just understanding where you're coming from and trying to make light of it.
Hatton never hurt Mayweather more like Floyd was of balance if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerWobbling mayweather is a sure sign thats the moment to pull the trigger. Your never going to beat this guy on points he is just too fast and busy for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3
Same thing happened with hatton, he had him in the 1st round and wobbled him bad, he took the "i can build from that" approach instead of finishing it there and then
Floyd was off balance. NEVER was he hurt against Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebifHatton never hurt Mayweather more like Floyd was of balance if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerWobbling mayweather is a sure sign thats the moment to pull the trigger. Your never going to beat this guy on points he is just too fast and busy for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninjaspy3
Same thing happened with hatton, he had him in the 1st round and wobbled him bad, he took the "i can build from that" approach instead of finishing it there and then
Also there's more than Mosley's rep at stake if he throws the fight. You have Golden Boy on the hook and Nazim's reputation as a trainer. Nobody wants to be the trainer of the guy who threw the fight, especially if you're on the top 5 best trainers' list. No, I think Oscar dislikes Floyd too much to have anyone in his stable throw a fight for him. You're likely to see the opposite; Oscar having Floyd knee-capped before throwing a fight for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33Not going to argue with you or try to change your mind, but rather bring up a few things.. We've seen Floyd do this to people in the past, he's left them gun shy because of his counters.. Shane also through hard punches later in the fight and missed.. he loaded up on a few, and you can't really miss that close on purpose if he wasn't really trying to KO mayweather..Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONThat's not the first time this has been said ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
besides all of the physical stuff in the ring.. i can't see shane taking such a smaller % of money, and talking the trash that he did publicly about how mayweather won't beat him, and then throwing the fight? There are too many parties involved, and shane didn't get an absolute enormous amount of money to throw one of the biggest fights of his career. There was a rematch clause in the fight, if Floyd DID get KO'd in that second round, i'd see an immediate rematch of the fight, which would do HUGE money, then if mayweather wins the rematch and even possibly a third fight, also, the Pac fight would still be huge a year or two from now.. plus it's not like pac is undefeated and it would be undefeated vs undefeated.
i just think there was too much involved in a mega fight like this for it to be fixed.. again, not arguing, but just understanding where you're coming from and trying to make light of it.
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONFloyd was off balance. NEVER was he hurt against Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebifHatton never hurt Mayweather more like Floyd was of balance if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
He was wobbled, he got caught on the chin and his knees went underneath him
The clearest sign of this is when he nodded his head to indicate he wasnt hurt, a sure sign with fighters that they indeed were hurt and were trying to convince their opponent they werent!!
In fact, the the contrary, Most fighters nod they weren't hurt when they WERE.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONFloyd was off balance. NEVER was he hurt against Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
He was wobbled, he got caught on the chin and his knees went underneath him
The clearest sign of this is when he nodded his head to indicate he wasnt hurt, a sure sign with fighters that they indeed were hurt and were trying to convince their opponent they werent!!
One of the things we are taught to do, and I still get wrong, is to never nod (or smile) after receiving a good shot. It is like telling the judges and the fighter across from you..."nice 1, you got me." And could end up losing you a pt in the amateur scoring system at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONIn fact, the the contrary, Most fighters nod they weren't hurt when they WERE.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerQuote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
He was wobbled, he got caught on the chin and his knees went underneath him
The clearest sign of this is when he nodded his head to indicate he wasnt hurt, a sure sign with fighters that they indeed were hurt and were trying to convince their opponent they werent!!
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by YoungbloodOne of the things we are taught to do, and I still get wrong, is to never nod (or smile) after receiving a good shot. It is like telling the judges and the fighter across from you..."nice 1, you got me." And could end up losing you a pt in the amateur scoring system at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONIn fact, the the contrary, Most fighters nod they weren't hurt when they WERE.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
Exactly.. funny, because i got neg repped for saying that Hatton never hurt Floyd a few days ago.. From Kel i think.. dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTONFloyd was off balance. NEVER was he hurt against Hatton.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebifHatton never hurt Mayweather more like Floyd was of balance if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer