Re: Official Ward VS Green SUPER SIX Poll and discussion thread
I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I understand, Ward dominated Green. In regards to Dirrell/Ward, I would have though Fenster would have jumped at the chance to add to his conspiracy theory of the Super Six? Ward allows Dirrell to win so that two americans make it into the final four.
I know it was his excuse, and either way it is his fault, but did Green look weight drained or flat in a way that was out of character?
Did Ward ever put Green down? Or wobble him with a punch? Was the fight a fun watch? Or another boring Ward showing?
After the Ward/Green fight, people are saying Kessler beats Green easily. Why?
Re: Official Ward VS Green SUPER SIX Poll and discussion thread
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Rantcatrat
I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I understand, Ward dominated Green. In regards to Dirrell/Ward, I would have though Fenster would have jumped at the chance to add to his conspiracy theory of the Super Six? Ward allows Dirrell to win so that two americans make it into the final four.
I know it was his excuse, and either way it is his fault, but did Green look weight drained or flat in a way that was out of character?
Did Ward ever put Green down? Or wobble him with a punch? Was the fight a fun watch? Or another boring Ward showing?
After the Ward/Green fight, people are saying Kessler beats Green easily. Why?
So here's the deal. Ward/Green was a clinchfest with Ward working well on the inside. Ward would walk Green into the ropes and work on the inside with his forehead against Green's chest. There was virtually NO hard shots landed in the fight. The ones that WERE landed were Ward's. It wasn't very fun to watch to be honest but appreciated Ward's ability to smother Green. Green was the flatest and most lackadaisical I've ever seen him. Ward was constantly first and Ward landed the harder punches which isn't saying much. Everytime they got close one initiated the clinch. Ward had some decent combos throughout but being that Green mounted virtually no offense it made it rather lack luster. If Ward could punch he would have had Green out of there late in the fight because Green was firing NOTHING back.
Green may fair slightly better against Kessler's stand up style but Mikkel can also punch a bit so that may negate whatever advantage the up right style and no head movement may have given. Green just does not belong in there with these guys. Hell, he looks like a shopworn vet... I think his diet and medical problems have alot to do with it which is something he refuses to admit... The man he replaced... Jermaine Taylor would KO Green. Simple as that.
Re: Official Ward VS Green SUPER SIX Poll and discussion thread
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Rantcatrat
I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I understand, Ward dominated Green. In regards to Dirrell/Ward, I would have though Fenster would have jumped at the chance to add to his conspiracy theory of the Super Six? Ward allows Dirrell to win so that two americans make it into the final four.
I know it was his excuse, and either way it is his fault, but did Green look weight drained or flat in a way that was out of character?
Did Ward ever put Green down? Or wobble him with a punch? Was the fight a fun watch? Or another boring Ward showing?
After the Ward/Green fight, people are saying Kessler beats Green easily. Why?
So here's the deal. Ward/Green was a clinchfest with Ward working well on the inside. Ward would walk Green into the ropes and work on the inside with his forehead against Green's chest. There was virtually NO hard shots landed in the fight. The ones that WERE landed were Ward's. It wasn't very fun to watch to be honest but appreciated Ward's ability to smother Green. Green was the flatest and most lackadaisical I've ever seen him. Ward was constantly first and Ward landed the harder punches which isn't saying much. Everytime they got close one initiated the clinch. Ward had some decent combos throughout but being that Green mounted virtually no offense it made it rather lack luster. If Ward could punch he would have had Green out of there late in the fight because Green was firing NOTHING back.
Green may fair slightly better against Kessler's stand up style but Mikkel can also punch a bit so that may negate whatever advantage the up right style and no head movement may have given. Green just does not belong in there with these guys. Hell, he looks like a shopworn vet... I think his diet and medical problems have alot to do with it which is something he refuses to admit... The man he replaced... Jermaine Taylor would KO Green. Simple as that.
Listen, I like Allan Green. I'm not ashamed. However, I'll admit that if he doesn't beat Kessler or put forward a good showing, his career, or whatever career he had, is done.
I wouldn't make too much of a loss to Ward at this point either. Ward is the same guy who made Kessler look lost and out of place. Kessler is a former world champion who also was the favorite of the tournament. And Ward stopped Kessler on cuts, right?
Re: Official Ward VS Green SUPER SIX Poll and discussion thread
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Rantcatrat
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
I haven't seen the fight yet, but from what I understand, Ward dominated Green. In regards to Dirrell/Ward, I would have though Fenster would have jumped at the chance to add to his conspiracy theory of the Super Six? Ward allows Dirrell to win so that two americans make it into the final four.
I know it was his excuse, and either way it is his fault, but did Green look weight drained or flat in a way that was out of character?
Did Ward ever put Green down? Or wobble him with a punch? Was the fight a fun watch? Or another boring Ward showing?
After the Ward/Green fight, people are saying Kessler beats Green easily. Why?
So here's the deal. Ward/Green was a clinchfest with Ward working well on the inside. Ward would walk Green into the ropes and work on the inside with his forehead against Green's chest. There was virtually NO hard shots landed in the fight. The ones that WERE landed were Ward's. It wasn't very fun to watch to be honest but appreciated Ward's ability to smother Green. Green was the flatest and most lackadaisical I've ever seen him. Ward was constantly first and Ward landed the harder punches which isn't saying much. Everytime they got close one initiated the clinch. Ward had some decent combos throughout but being that Green mounted virtually no offense it made it rather lack luster. If Ward could punch he would have had Green out of there late in the fight because Green was firing NOTHING back.
Green may fair slightly better against Kessler's stand up style but Mikkel can also punch a bit so that may negate whatever advantage the up right style and no head movement may have given. Green just does not belong in there with these guys. Hell, he looks like a shopworn vet... I think his diet and medical problems have alot to do with it which is something he refuses to admit... The man he replaced... Jermaine Taylor would KO Green. Simple as that.
Listen, I like Allan Green. I'm not ashamed. However, I'll admit that if he doesn't beat Kessler or put forward a good showing, his career, or whatever career he had, is done.
I wouldn't make
too much of a loss to Ward at this point either. Ward is the same guy who made Kessler look lost and out of place. Kessler is a former world champion who also was the favorite of the tournament. And Ward stopped Kessler on cuts, right?
Yeah, from butts...(intentional or unintentional... people can argue it all day but it's a moot point) But Wards movement won the day.
Green has been living off that Jaidon Codrington KO for like ever. He will look badly against Kessler... Green is no where as strong as everyone thinks he is. He's never KOd a real credible threat to the division and his boxing skills have always been ordinary at best. His medical issues and diet are part of the problem. Him just not being that good is the other. Kessler is going to beat him up. Kess has taken Froch's best shots and stood there. Froch hits friggin hard. Green has no chance IMO. Kess has the power to hurt Green. Green should just be happy he's getting these paydays now and also be glad this tourny is almost over for him... He got his moment in the spotlight and his money... You won't hear much about him after this tourny. You'll hear more from his mouth than of his ring accomplishments.
Re: Official Ward VS Green SUPER SIX Poll and discussion thread
whoever voted for a green win must be feeling pretty stupid right about now
Re: Official Ward VS Green SUPER SIX Poll and discussion thread
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bigamzz
whoever voted for a green win must be feeling pretty stupid right about now
That's a good addition to the thread. Good insight and knowlege as well as very eloquent.:rolleyes:
