Pac-Marg TALE OF THE TAPE

Let's be honest now, at this point in time Margarito is no elite fighter, his chin has been cracked, it's rare in boxing history to come back from that kind of beating in the Mosley fight. In fact, those are the kind of fights that takes years away from a fighter, then take into the rustiness, then take into account the power doesn't seem to be there without the wraps. This is a 1 sided mismatch in favor of Pac. All Margarito has going for him is size. Sorry that isn't enough to ko or stop a top 2 p4p fighter in the sport.

bulldog,

you might be right. as much as i am hoping margarito might have something left in the tank, it can't be ignored in the manner that he was destroyed by a semi-washed up shane mosley, almost two years ago. i'm hoping trainer roberto garcia can work wonders for him. but conventional wisdom would suggest that most usually an ascending fighter (pacquiao) beats a descending (margarito) with an exclamation point.

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Originally Posted by milmascaras1

bulldog,

you might be right. as much as i am hoping margarito might have something left in the tank, it can't be ignored in the manner that he was destroyed by a semi-washed up shane mosley, almost two years ago. i'm hoping trainer roberto garcia can work wonders for him. but conventional wisdom would suggest that most usually an ascending fighter (pacquiao) beats a descending (margarito) with an exclamation point.

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If you call that Shane Mosley of 2 years ago as semi-washed up, what do you then call the Shane Mosley who fought Mayweather?

true, mosley was a completely washed up fighter vs. mayweather. in his prime though, he might have beaten floydie jr..

I'm a Mosley fan but and I have to say, I still don't think he's 'washed up' but I am starting to seriously consider the truth in those BALCO allegations.

If mosley was so washed up when fighting floyd, then why all the hype ? If he'd had fought pac that night would he still be called washed up ? Or even better if in that second round things went different and shane pulled out a win would he be washed up still ? This sport is way too full of excuses and cop outs. Shane lost plain and simple he would've lost two years before that fight and he'd loose if they fought two years from now . Floyd was just a better and smarter fighter. It's not like floyd is 18 years old and fresh out of the olympics his damn self. Is that what his fans will cry if floyd looses ? That he washed up ? No one would accept that excuse from floyd and it shouldn't be accepted by other fighters when they loose. If this 154 fight was actually at 154 then i'd give margo a decent shot but this catchweight garbage, who knows. But if by some miracle margo beats pac (after loosing to shane and his yawn inspiring 10 round decision after) is pac washed up now all of the sudden too ?

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kkisser,

yeah, i do know the meaning of ignorance and you are one ignoramous mofo!

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sorry, i didn't know you have hang-ups about being ignorant, so i'll let you be. lol

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If mosley was so washed up when fighting floyd, then why all the hype ? If he'd had fought pac that night would he still be called washed up ? Or even better if in that second round things went different and shane pulled out a win would he be washed up still ? This sport is way too full of excuses and cop outs. Shane lost plain and simple he would've lost two years before that fight and he'd loose if they fought two years from now . Floyd was just a better and smarter fighter. It's not like floyd is 18 years old and fresh out of the olympics his damn self. Is that what his fans will cry if floyd looses ? That he washed up ? No one would accept that excuse from floyd and it shouldn't be accepted by other fighters when they loose. If this 154 fight was actually at 154 then i'd give margo a decent shot but this catchweight garbage, who knows. But if by some miracle margo beats pac (after loosing to shane and his yawn inspiring 10 round decision after) is pac washed up now all of the sudden too ?

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Agree with the whole post except the bold line. Margacheato fought most of his career at 147, and only his last fight was at 154. This fight is at 151. It shouldn't and won't matter. The only reason the catchweight is shite is that it is supposed to be for an 8th weight class when they aren't fighting at 154. But, in terms of that giving Pac an advantage in some way that he wouldn't have had otherwise, I don't buy it.

Shane lost pure and simple. It may have been the fight to show the world that Shane is on the slide, but he lost. If people don't recall, Pacquiao's people wanted Shane to fight him at 143, not 147, so Pacquiao's people clearly saw that Shane at 147 could pose some problems and that was after Shane beat Margarito.

$1,000 for anyone to knock Pacquiao down

C'mon Roach you cheap bastard. :) Make it 10 G's.

Pacman does not have better stamina than Margarito they both have amazing stamina but Marg has the record for most punches thrown in a fight.

Pac is faster and more accurate, he'll have to get in close to Marg to hit him as Marg is so much bigger with reach etc. however his in and out movement should be enough!! let's hope he doesn't back up to the ropes and allow marg to unload like he did with Cotto as Marg will just keep punching in that position unlike Cotto who gasses out.

In the middle of the ring Pac will absolutely smash him to bits so he needs to just do what he's supposed to as this SHOULD be a mismatch.

here's what's going to be the difference in the fight. margarito's jab. in his last fight, his jab improved. while he doesn't use his jab all that much, his jab isn't bad and will only get better under roberto garcia. if margarito utilizes his jab effectively, pacquiao could be in trouble.

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here's what's going to be the difference in the fight. margarito's jab. in his last fight, his jab improved. while he doesn't use his jab all that much, his jab isn't bad and will only get better under roberto garcia. if margarito utilizes his jab effectively, pacquiao could be in trouble.

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I think your absolutely right. Margarito's jab will likely keep pacman at bay. With roberto garcia and that jab of his pacquiao could be in serious trouble.

I dont want to sound cheesy but Margarito might be the one entering this fight with the eye of the tiger, coming back for redemption this guy is very hungry to stop our heroic PAC in his tracks. Very dangerous for Manny.

I just hope people will give Manny full credit if he stops Margarito.

pavlik,

if pac beats margarito, i will definitely give him his props. you know, with all this talk about margarito being an "easy" or "stay busy" fight for pacquiao, i think margarito is being taken very lightly by most everyone. and i'm willing to bet he's reading all of this negative stuff about him and it is just going to pump him up.

but yeah, if pacquiao can beat margarito, i will call it like it is and will give pacquiao all the props he deserves.