Nobody knew Johnson and Arreola were going to be as bad as they were. To be honest I have no issue with Vitali fighting Briggs, that's a more dangerous fight than anybody else right now. The only issue I have is Sosnowski.
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Nobody knew Johnson and Arreola were going to be as bad as they were. To be honest I have no issue with Vitali fighting Briggs, that's a more dangerous fight than anybody else right now. The only issue I have is Sosnowski.
a fight harrison is as viable fight as a good few of the klits opponents
haye would knock areola out probably quicker than he will harrison
want my advice?
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Originally Posted by erics44
Yes let's try and dust that under the carpet cuz it shows just how hypocritcal and flawed your tirades against David Haye really are.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
If offered, would Audley have taken the fight vs Vitali?
I actually think that Harrison is a far more dangerous opponent than Haye thinks, more dangerous than most people think.
I'll tell you the reason why.
Harrison has fantastic skills, the problem is he doesn't apply them. The guy was an Olympic gold medalist, those skills don't disapeer, his problem is he never really looks like he can be bothered.
But come fight night, I think we'll see Harrison fight like his life depended on it and he does have power in that left hand.
I am in complete agreement. Only Arreola and Peter halfway deserved shots. Peter DID because he got seriously screwed by the WBC in the run-up and I'm glad he at least got a pay day. But Briggs-Sosnowski is an unbelievable that he's allowed to get away with this. There are 10K pages of Haye and rightfully so because his resume at heavyweight is shit but the guy ranked above him is worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI'll defend Wlad & his opponents till the cows come home, he really does try to make the best fights & while his fights can be used as visual sedatives on occasion, he's an exceptional fighter, worthy imo of being talked up among the 20 best HWs of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Vitali on the other hand has had a truly shocking list of opponents since coming back, hell he's made Haye look like Ali with his choice of opposition (& that's what it is, I'm not buying this 3 mandatories a year BS).
Peter was an acceptable comeback fight even if he was in shit shape & really was outclassed by Wlad but for 3 rounds of the first fight. Gomez never had a chance, but that was fine to get the mandatory outta the way. Except then Arreola was the mandatory, but that was a good US exposure fight & hell he even got the mandatory delayed another few months so he could just make optional defences through to the end of this year.
Then he fights fucking Kevin Johnson, a prospect who should be nowhere near a title, a guy who makes the Michael Grant that took on Lennox look like B-Hop. I don't get how anyone was surprised how Johnson fought, he was fighting a guy who was 4 or 5 levels above where he should be, and just didn't know what to do. That this was somehow again passed off as a 'mandatory' (how does Vitali keep doing this?) is a farce. If any other top fighter took on a prospect (& not a great one at that) they'd be pilloried to high heaven.
But, no Vitali is still managing to outdo himself. First Albert Sosnowski who gave it his all, but really should be topping the card on club shows in Essex, and now Shannon Briggs, who will be dangerous for all of the first 27 seconds.
Vitali has the worst run of opposition of any fighter mentioned in the P4P discussion that I can think of. Seriously if there is someone with a more shoddy run please tell me??!
Who besides Briggs and Sosnowski? Have you and Hornfinger not seen Audley fight? It's a stretch to call it fighting even.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
We'll never know cuz vit challanged sosnowski, who was the euro challenger not the euro champ. I think that says alot.
Haha sorry I'm a sucker for this. What does that mean Hornfinger? Not to put words in your mouth, but are you implying that Vitali was ducking Audley?
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Originally Posted by amatWho besides Briggs and Sosnowski? Have you and Hornfinger not seen Audley fight? It's a stretch to call it fighting even.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Oh yeah Audley's shit. but the whole division is shit bar 4 maybe 5 fighters.
You can't have a go at one champ for fighting crap because ALL THE HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPS ARE FIGHTING SHIT OPPOSITION. It's called being balanced and not being hypocritical. Two things that lyle can't do.
They aren't the same level of shit though. I don't get how that is difficult to comprehend. I mean there are A LOT more then 4 or 5 fighters that would beat Audley 10 times out of 10. Are you disputing that? Because there is a reason that even in a shit division, Audley can't get within walking distance of the top 20.Quote:
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Originally Posted by amatWho besides Briggs and Sosnowski? Have you and Hornfinger not seen Audley fight? It's a stretch to call it fighting even.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Oh yeah Audley's shit. but the whole division is shit bar 4 maybe 5 fighters.
You can't have a go at one champ for fighting crap because ALL THE HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPS ARE FIGHTING SHIT OPPOSITION. It's called being balanced and not being hypocritical. Two things that lyle can't do.
The fat American Cris Arreola would almost always beat Audley Harrison. Therefore, Arreola is a better opponent then Audley. Right? Or would you pick Audley to beat Arreola?
I'm not saying Audley could beat anyone, because i've seen him be proper awful in fights.
But I do think he is one if the biggest wastes of talent I have ever seen. Anyone who has followed his career properly (not just on boxrec etc) will know that in some fights he has showed glimmers of what made him such a hot prospect. He does have it in him somewhere, he's just tactically retarded and the skills were wasted on someone without a boxing brain.
not too bad, how is it on planet bitter?Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHow's the weather on planet crazy?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by amat
Nothing other than stating a fact. There's nothing to imply. That is the fact of it.