WTF is PBF demanding w/ those Blood Tests???

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He chose not to.

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and rightfully so! he is not bound by any law to do so.

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Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

You only believe he is clean because he says he is. I want proof.

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This is in no way meant to demean you but based on the above statement that you made, what if someone wrote you this:

"You only believe you are not stupid because you say you are not. I want proof."

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You want to see my degree certificate? My other diplomas? My test scores and IQ scores? sure you can have em. No problem.

Now what would you think if I started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to show you them? like I had something to hide....

Again anything to take this thread away from the issue and on to the child like name calling.

Stick to the issue, here is what it is.....

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

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Having intelligence, is not necessarily synonymous with being stupid. The guys who make the JackAss series are stupid, because they do stupid things. They are not stupid because they don't have intelligence.

Because of the position that his haters have mostly put floyd in, he can now ask for pretty much whatever he wants. To make this fight he could ask pac to wear a yellow skirt and some would try and make it happen. It sucks it's this way ,but we only have ourselves to blame. Instead of just acknowledging a great bout between the two best fighters in the sport. You have fans that constantly on a daily basis try to pump up one guy and shit on the other. Now this whole outside the ring war has taken off and we arent reigning it back in. The best way to have this fight made is to ignore floyd and his sillyness and convince him that he is a part of boxing. Not boxing itself. So why is he asking for the tests ? Because he can. He knows pac aint on shit. I just think the guy likes being begged to fight more than he actually likes fighting. And who's fault is that.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

You want to see my degree certificate? My other diplomas? My test scores and IQ scores? sure you can have em. No problem.

Now what would you think if I started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to show you them? like I had something to hide....

Again anything to take this thread away from the issue and on to the child like name calling.

Stick to the issue, here is what it is.....

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But those certificate, diplomas or IQ scores are the standard and are not good enough. You have to subject yourself to a more intensive brain probe to find out how much neurons you still have functioning.
What do you say?

What people don't understand about Hornfinger and MafiaJoey's are the fact that they are both the biggest Pacquiao haters on the face of the earth. I made a rant about the whole Mayweather/Pacquiao hating and not one person could provide PROOF that Pacquiao was on PEDs. I'll use this analogy again:

Picture yourself back in school. You took an exam, passed it. Someone in your class claimed he saw you cheating and he's demanding the teacher or the administrators make you take an even more in depth test to prove you weren't actually cheating. Do you sit there and say, "I passed the test already, why do I have to retake it?" or "Sure, I'll take the test again cause someone said I cheated?"

Show me proof Pacquiao is on PEDs and you have another Pachater on my part. Not speculation, hypothesis, or situations, I just was PROOF.

Well if Mayweather wants the test i don't see the big deal. As for the fight i think it happens after what i saw with Pac and Mosley. I think Mayweather saw what he need to see and i think he will win.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Well if Mayweather wants the test i don't see the big deal.

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And Manny agreed to the test in the second negotiation.

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As for the fight i think it happens after what i saw with Pac and Mosley. I think Mayweather saw what he need to see and i think he will win.

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I saw a decline in Manny in his fight with Mosley. I just hope that brings the confidence that Floyd needed to fight Manny. Remember that Pacquiao still is the underdog in this fight even with the suspicion of PED use.

i posted this on another thread but i think it belongs here....


how about this... in 20 years, long after floyd and manny have retired... some of your kids are gonna look back on this and wonder what it was all about.

they'll look at boxrec and see that manny fought 13 times (maybe even 14 times by year's end) between 2006 & 2011... they will find that floyd fought 6 times in that same time.

doing a little more research, they will find that manny hadn't failed one drug test in his career to substantiate the controversy. they will also find that floyd came from a family of drug addicts and wife beating criminals.

they will also discover that manny already had three loses on his record...and with nothing to lose by taking all comers, he fought everyone he could. they will see that floyd held on to that 0 as if his life depended on it.

if floyd beats manny (which i think he would), then floyd would become the superstar boxer that he wishes everyone would recognize him to be. if manny loses...no big deal he fought the best at multiple weights.

they'll see that floyd needed pacquiao to cement his legacy as possibly one of the greats of the modern era. and they'll think he was a chicken for not trying to be the best.

as for pacquiao... he's rich, he's got a life outside boxing(acting, singing, politics, being a national hero, etc...) and he didn't need floyd for squat. he did it on his own.

in the future they'll say mayweather could have been one of the greatest if he had pushed himself. they'll see manny's record breaking run from 106 lbs right up to 147lbs.... who's ever done that?

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

i posted this on another thread but i think it belongs here....


how about this... in 20 years, long after floyd and manny have retired... some of your kids are gonna look back on this and wonder what it was all about.

they'll look at boxrec and see that manny fought 13 times (maybe even 14 times by year's end) between 2006 & 2011... they will find that floyd fought 6 times in that same time.

doing a little more research, they will find that manny hadn't failed one drug test in his career to substantiate the controversy. they will also find that floyd came from a family of drug addicts and wife beating criminals.

they will also discover that manny already had three loses on his record...and with nothing to lose by taking all comers, he fought everyone he could. they will see that floyd held on to that 0 as if his life depended on it.

if floyd beats manny (which i think he would), then floyd would become the superstar boxer that he wishes everyone would recognize him to be. if manny loses...no big deal he fought the best at multiple weights.

they'll see that floyd needed pacquiao to cement his legacy as possibly one of the greats of the modern era. and they'll think he was a chicken for not trying to be the best.

as for pacquiao... he's rich, he's got a life outside boxing(acting, singing, politics, being a national hero, etc...) and he didn't need floyd for squat. he did it on his own.

in the future they'll say mayweather could have been one of the greatest if he had pushed himself. they'll see manny's record breaking run from 106 lbs right up to 147lbs.... who's ever done that?

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well said.;)

OMG! I figured it out! Hornfinger is Leonard Ellerbe! I understand now. He is trying to protect his fighter. We need to leave him alone now and let him do his job. Who are we to jeopardize that?

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Originally Posted by C-Lo

OMG! I figured it out! Hornfinger is Leonard Ellerbe! I understand now. He is trying to protect his fighter. We need to leave him alone now and let him do his job. Who are we to jeopardize that?

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LOL. The Horny finger Ellerbe!!!

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

i posted this on another thread but i think it belongs here....


how about this... in 20 years, long after floyd and manny have retired... some of your kids are gonna look back on this and wonder what it was all about.

they'll look at boxrec and see that manny fought 13 times (maybe even 14 times by year's end) between 2006 & 2011... they will find that floyd fought 6 times in that same time.

doing a little more research, they will find that manny hadn't failed one drug test in his career to substantiate the controversy. they will also find that floyd came from a family of drug addicts and wife beating criminals.

they will also discover that manny already had three loses on his record...and with nothing to lose by taking all comers, he fought everyone he could. they will see that floyd held on to that 0 as if his life depended on it.

if floyd beats manny (which i think he would), then floyd would become the superstar boxer that he wishes everyone would recognize him to be. if manny loses...no big deal he fought the best at multiple weights.

they'll see that floyd needed pacquiao to cement his legacy as possibly one of the greats of the modern era. and they'll think he was a chicken for not trying to be the best.

as for pacquiao... he's rich, he's got a life outside boxing(acting, singing, politics, being a national hero, etc...) and he didn't need floyd for squat. he did it on his own.

in the future they'll say mayweather could have been one of the greatest if he had pushed himself. they'll see manny's record breaking run from 106 lbs right up to 147lbs.... who's ever done that?

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Nicely done! Of course they'll also have some pretty incredible footage (though by then they'll be complaining they aren't holograms).

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

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Originally Posted by InTheNeutralCorner

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

You only believe he is clean because he says he is. I want proof.

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This is in no way meant to demean you but based on the above statement that you made, what if someone wrote you this:

"You only believe you are not stupid because you say you are not. I want proof."

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You want to see my degree certificate? My other diplomas? My test scores and IQ scores? sure you can have em. No problem.

Now what would you think if I started coming up with all kinds of excuses not to show you them? like I had something to hide....

Again anything to take this thread away from the issue and on to the child like name calling.

Stick to the issue, here is what it is.....

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

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Having intelligence, is not necessarily synonymous with being stupid. The guys who make the JackAss series are stupid, because they do stupid things. They are not stupid because they don't have intelligence.

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And so it continues..... hurling the insults and running away from the issue that no pac fan can or wants to address....

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

It doesn't matter how many fanboy excuses you throw at it, that is where the arguement starts and ends. You can't change that bulletproof fact so don't bother trying.

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pac agreed with the tests, pbf decided not to fight him instead.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

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"Mr. Kizer also shared some details on the drug testing. Although the results aren't "in yet", both Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley were tested the night of the fight and there are no indications or expectations of any problems with their results. The tests should be back within the next week or two."

Shane Mosley receives suspension after Pacquiao fight, Drug tests not back yet - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com

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Originally Posted by mnmc10

pac agreed with the tests, pbf decided not to fight him instead.

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Originally Posted by Hornfinger

No matter what anyone says, the arguement still starts and ends at the same place. Manny has been offered a test on numerous occasions and has done everything he can to avoid it.

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"Mr. Kizer also shared some details on the drug testing. Although the results aren't "in yet", both Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley were tested the night of the fight and there are no indications or expectations of any problems with their results. The tests should be back within the next week or two."

Shane Mosley receives suspension after Pacquiao fight, Drug tests not back yet - National Fight Sports | Examiner.com

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Blood test?