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No heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting;D
Tyson never won a fight where he faced adversity, the Klitschko's have....FACT
oh yea and he did that all with a broken back :-X:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNo heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting;D
No, that was against Ettiene:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesoh yea and he did that all with a broken back :-X:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNo heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting;D
That sort of punishes Tyson for the fact that he tore through several world champions with no difficulty whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
i know what fight it was after, who the fuck wouldn't, it's probably Tyson's 2nd most famous interview after a fight, question is, where was Mike's heart when he was being battered from pillar to pillar against Holyfield in the rematch?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNo, that was against Ettiene:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesoh yea and he did that all with a broken back :-X:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rossNo heart is sitting in the corner while your in your supposed prime whining about a shoulder injury;)Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Not fighting hard dropping an opponent and eating right after right putting your gumshield back in to get up and carry on fighting;D
The Klitschko's get no respect for dominating their era which is damn near on par with Tyson's era.Quote:
Originally Posted by LobowolfXXXThat sort of punishes Tyson for the fact that he tore through several world champions with no difficulty whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I suppose if you count there era from the Brewster fight onwards then yeah they are dominating.
Thats like being the the retarded bully in primary school and the year above him has just moved up to secondary.
I still say that the contenders in the eighties are far more skilled than the Kiltschkos today.
name in what way Bonecrusher Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Marvis Frazier, Buster Douglas, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, Henry Tillman, Alex Stewart, and Bruce Seldon, are better than Chris Arreola, Hasim Rahman, David Haye, Tomasz Adamek, Samuel Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Chris Byrd, Jameel McCline etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
You would because it supports your view.....I wouldn't because I'm a rational person. Tyson didn't even fight some of the more dangerous fighters out there: Mercer, Bowe, Briggs, Morrison, Moorer, Rahman, Foreman. But no, Tyson fought Henry fucking Tillman and we're supposed to appreciate that???Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wlad and Vitali have fought anyone and everyone and are willing to do so twice.
You two are crazy so now we should reward the Klits for fighting the same fighters they already beat, that should show you how piss poor this division is.
Ross point is valid, Tyson fought better opponents in his era and it was stronger than this crap generation of heavyweights. As for Tyson avoiding some heavies in the early 1990's, yes he did after he came out of prison. Post prison he took on Rudduck, the most dangerous heavyweight out there twice. Tyson would have beaten old George, the Mercer, Lewis and Bowe were not ready then.
Fucking hell this gets more ridiculous! Just read back what you have put and youll think "oh yeah, Areola is shit, he got beat by a mediocre light heavy"Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesname in what way Bonecrusher Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Marvis Frazier, Buster Douglas, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, Henry Tillman, Alex Stewart, and Bruce Seldon, are better than Chris Arreola, Hasim Rahman, David Haye, Tomasz Adamek, Samuel Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Chris Byrd, Jameel McCline etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
That was just silly...
As for the names you mentioned Tyson could have fought. He was out of boxing for 4 years while they were getting established and as for Mercer (who went on to decapitate Morrison) one of Mikes victims gave him a boxing lesson;D
if I'm so crazy answer my damn question, how the hell is Alex Stewart, Tony Tubbs, Tony Tucker, and the rest of the bunch of bums Tyson beat any better then today's lot of fightersQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ruddock was never the most dangerous HW out there, when the hell did he ever even pick up a strap? better yet, when the hell did he even fight for an actual world title that wasn't the IBC strap? the three best wins on Ruddock's record are against Bonecrusher Smith who had already been whooped by Holmes, Tubbs, Witherspoon, Marvis Frazier, and Tyson, a chinny used up Michael Dokes who had already been stopped by Holyfield (and then was dispatched quicker by Bowe afterwards) and a decision against a more or less shot Greg Page, Lewis and Morrison even managed to KO Ruddock quicker than Tyson
you can say that Tyson would have jumped over the moon but he never did even have the cojones to take on the best in his division so why should he be praised as if he ever did such
Pre prison there was no fighter Tyson avoided.
all of the names that Lyle mentioned were still fighting long after Tyson's prison sentence, Tyson was already back in the ring in 95 the same year Holyfield lost by TKO to Bowe, why didn't Mike take that fight? and you bash Arreola losing to a former lineal Cruiserweight champion hahaha the irony :-X:-X:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by rossFucking hell this gets more ridiculous! Just read back what you have put and youll think "oh yeah, Areola is shit, he got beat by a mediocre light heavy"Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesname in what way Bonecrusher Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tony Tubbs, Marvis Frazier, Buster Douglas, Frank Bruno, Razor Ruddock, Henry Tillman, Alex Stewart, and Bruce Seldon, are better than Chris Arreola, Hasim Rahman, David Haye, Tomasz Adamek, Samuel Peter, Ruslan Chagaev, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Chris Byrd, Jameel McCline etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
That was just silly...
As for the names you mentioned Tyson could have fought. He was out of boxing for 4 years while they were getting established and as for Mercer (who went on to decapitate Morrison) one of Mikes victims gave him a boxing lesson;D
once again, the ONLY FRAZIER MIKE TYSON WOULD EVER BEAT IS THE ONE HE DID, AND THAT'S MARVIS FRAZIER, JOE WOULD GUT'EM!!!