Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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boyla
Fury is going towards a world title shot.
Price, while more popular has not fought the quality of opponents Fury has.
What is the biggest name Price has beaten?
To be fair Fury's only really beaten Chisora and Kingpin.
But Price wants to fight Chisora next year?
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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Bobthepen
The issue that concerns me the most about team Fury is their reluctance to entertain a fight with Price. Forget the discussions about who they have fought, because history has shown that is no barometer for a future encounter.
I like Fury, and he's taken some good, testing fights thus far, but if he is serious about facing Vitali or Wlad next year he needs to step up in class in a huge way in the future. Whilst people carp on about the likes of Chisora and Johnson as decent opponents, they are missing the point that however good they are in their own right, their fighting style is about as far removed from a brother K as it is possible to get.
Fury has made a name fighting smaller, lethargic heavies who are not too heavy handed. In Vitali he has a busy power puncher of comparable size.
What could Fury do to prepare? Find a technically adept, tall, rangy, power punching boxer who will be busy enough to push him. I can't think of any current heavyweight that would be better preparation than Price, which is why it baffles me that team Fury aren't chasing this to the ends of the earth.
Fury needs Price.
When fury offered price the fight, Maloney said they couldnt because he was contracted to sky then that turned out to be bullshit. Go back a page and read the link I put up.
David Haye didnt want to fight Johnson a few years ago when he moved to heavy. Beating Johnson convincingly over 12 is far more impressive than stopping Skelton in 2. Price had some jittery moments when Skelton came forward. There is a reason Maloney wont move him up in class, hes shit scared of that jaw. Its like having a Ferrari with glass tyres.
There are links all over the internet that contradict what both camps have said. If you believe any one of them, then you'll love these magic beans I'm selling...
Price didn't have jittery moments when Skelton came forward, apart from in the eyes of the uninitiated and the poisonously biased. Still, at least Skelton came forward, unlike Johnson.
I don't want to criticise Fury for the Johnson fight, because last minute opponents are hard to find, but I'm confused how anybody can be impressed by a landslide victory over an opponent who doesn't fight back and whose sole claim to fame is he went 12 rounds with the champ years ago and didn't get knocked out whilst throwing no punches then either.
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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Bobthepen
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Bobthepen
The issue that concerns me the most about team Fury is their reluctance to entertain a fight with Price. Forget the discussions about who they have fought, because history has shown that is no barometer for a future encounter.
I like Fury, and he's taken some good, testing fights thus far, but if he is serious about facing Vitali or Wlad next year he needs to step up in class in a huge way in the future. Whilst people carp on about the likes of Chisora and Johnson as decent opponents, they are missing the point that however good they are in their own right, their fighting style is about as far removed from a brother K as it is possible to get.
Fury has made a name fighting smaller, lethargic heavies who are not too heavy handed. In Vitali he has a busy power puncher of comparable size.
What could Fury do to prepare? Find a technically adept, tall, rangy, power punching boxer who will be busy enough to push him. I can't think of any current heavyweight that would be better preparation than Price, which is why it baffles me that team Fury aren't chasing this to the ends of the earth.
Fury needs Price.
Fury is simply following the David Haye gameplan: only fight risky fights if he is facing a Klitschko. He won't face Price, unless he's cashing out, or the fight makes s$nse.
From what I understand, if Vitali retires, which at 41, which there is a good chance of, the title will become vacant, and Fury will go against the winner of Bermaine Stiverne and Cris Arreola. That's a fight I'm more interested in seeing.
A little harsh there on Haye. Who else should he have fought? He took on Ruiz and Valuev and won a strap. Both are a cut above the usual dross and have been world champions.
I hope Vitali does retire, and I think Arreola against Fury is a cracking matchup.
I think there are many top ten heavyweights that Haye could fight, and he would be favored over most. Adamek, Chambers, Arreola all come to mind.
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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Rantcatrat
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Bobthepen
The issue that concerns me the most about team Fury is their reluctance to entertain a fight with Price. Forget the discussions about who they have fought, because history has shown that is no barometer for a future encounter.
I like Fury, and he's taken some good, testing fights thus far, but if he is serious about facing Vitali or Wlad next year he needs to step up in class in a huge way in the future. Whilst people carp on about the likes of Chisora and Johnson as decent opponents, they are missing the point that however good they are in their own right, their fighting style is about as far removed from a brother K as it is possible to get.
Fury has made a name fighting smaller, lethargic heavies who are not too heavy handed. In Vitali he has a busy power puncher of comparable size.
What could Fury do to prepare? Find a technically adept, tall, rangy, power punching boxer who will be busy enough to push him. I can't think of any current heavyweight that would be better preparation than Price, which is why it baffles me that team Fury aren't chasing this to the ends of the earth.
Fury needs Price.
Fury is simply following the David Haye gameplan: only fight risky fights if he is facing a Klitschko. He won't face Price, unless he's cashing out, or the fight makes s$nse.
From what I understand, if Vitali retires, which at 41, which there is a good chance of, the title will become vacant, and Fury will go against the winner of Bermaine Stiverne and Cris Arreola. That's a fight I'm more interested in seeing.
Fury has fought stronger opposition than Price, and is 5 years younger. If he's taking a "non-risk" path then what is Price doing?
Price is moving equally slowly. He's still fighting at the British domestic level.
It's my primary criticism of the heavyweight division. There are just a lot of good fights to be made that do not include the KBros, but aren't made because it makes more financial sense for a top fighter to lie in wait until a title challenge with the Kbros opens up. By the way, it makes perfect sense for careers; I'm just a boxing fan, and I would love to see guys like Fury and Arreola mix it up.
Recently, Pulev beat Dimitrenko, Adamek beat Chambers and Arreola is set to face Stiverne, but who else of the top ten/fifteen is facing each other?
I recall that Fury wanted a fight with Boystov, which is the exact kind of fight I would be excited to see.
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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Fury does not need the price fight right now.
He is on the verge of fighting for a world title, why would he go back and fight price who is fighting total losers. Fury has time on his side, he will become a world champion. I think price will become one also. When one of them is champion that's when the fight should be made.
I like both fighters, but both are on different paths and don't need to fight right now.
So turning down a mandatory title defence with Price and vacating his titles to Duck him, because he was planning to take this so called different path, vindicates Tyson from running??
Price is actually fighting the level of opponent he should be at this point of his progression, taking on domestic opponents and at the time he was made the mandatory for the British title that was also his next progressive step....but Fury simply bottled it....you can say what you like but the real facts are that Fury refused to take the fight with Price because he didn't fancy it, he lacked confidence!
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I don't think Fury is the sort of man that lacks confidence.
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
doesnt matter if fury is confident or not , he doesnt last 2 rounds with price.
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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I don't think Fury is the sort of man that lacks confidence.
Ranting and raving are sure fire signs of confidence issues, Tyson protests too much :cool:
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
I would much rather Price vacated the British title, and not fought dross like a 45 year old Skelton, and a gun shy Fraudley.
So much talk of meaningless titles, if they are you mandatory defenses.
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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boyla
I would much rather Price vacated the British title, and not fought dross like a 45 year old Skelton, and a gun shy Fraudley.
So much talk of meaningless titles, if they are you mandatory defenses.
The British title is hardly meaningless just because Fury did not value it is no reason to criticise Price for giving it the respect it is due. In many ways the belt and title is the most meaningful a British fighter can hold. To win the most beautiful belt out there outright is a perfectly valid and respectable thing to do.
Hear hear!
Ross you're not at it again are you? Did Price have some 'jittery moments' in the same way that his legs went against Sexton just before sparking him? ;D
Re: Who do you think is better: David Price or Tyson Fury?
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boyla
Fury is going towards a world title shot.
Price, while more popular has not fought the quality of opponents Fury has.
What is the biggest name Price has beaten?
To be fair Fury's only really beaten Chisora and Kingpin.
But Price wants to fight Chisora next year?
Only because Chisora has somehow become somewhat of a name after losing to both Haye and Klitschko. Let's face it, there isn't a massive difference in terms of the quality of their respective opposition.
Price-Chisora makes sense though. Chisora has a pretty decent chin so you'll find out if
a) Price's power is for real
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b) If Price has a stamina issue.
I also believe Chisora is Fury's toughest opponent thus far (other than McDermott who he made hard work of)