Zou Shiming vs. Eleazar Valenzuela - Saturday fight/chat thread

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

As for Zou's debut you didn't miss anything, Arum & Roach better nurse this midget along Chavez Jr. style or he's going to get crushed by the 1st good Pro he faces. (Bob-father is the best at protecting his cash cows) ;)

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;D

Kung pao shiming sucks.. I said this before but hes not cut out for the pros..

even ate age 31, he has no man strength whatsover.. I would beat kung paos ass on the streets or inside the ring.

Shiming did what he was supposed to. He won. I think he did good for a pro debut, you have to remember he had a long amateur career. It will take some time, like Roach was talking about, to start fighting like a pro.
I'm positive Shiming will not be fighting for any championship for a couple of years, if ever.
This whole shebang was about opening up China to professional boxing and I thought it was a good start.
Hey, was anyone else surprised by the 'dressing room' Shiming was in? Rugs on the floor, pictures on the walls, upholstery on the furniture and a decent lamp. More like a VIP lounge than a boxers dressing room.
Monte Carlo, Macau, Vegas, and then where? Oh yeah, Argentina and then maybe London. Watching these fights at all different hours is playing hell with my schedule. Who should I complain to.

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Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Kung pao shiming sucks.. I said this before but hes not cut out for the pros..

even ate age 31, he has no man strength whatsover.. I would beat kung paos ass on the streets or inside the ring.

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Ha! i'm thinking my 10 year old granddaughter would kick Zou's ass. :cool:

I was not impressed much with Zou if I'm honest...

Oustanding win for Estrada. He had already shown what he was made of when he fought Gonzalez & Zurdito Sanchez. Both of those loses were very competative and he gave Roman all he could handle.

I expect Estrada to be around for some time at just 22 he's got a lot to learn and a lot of road to cover.

Can't believe Magdaleno lost to Martinez what a poor showing by Magdaleno.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I was not impressed much with Zou if I'm honest...

Oustanding win for Estrada. He had already shown what he was made of when he fought Gonzalez & Zurdito Sanchez. Both of those loses were very competative and he gave Roman all he could handle.

I expect Estrada to be around for some time at just 22 he's got a lot to learn and a lot of road to cover.

Can't believe Magdaleno lost to Martinez what a poor showing by Magdaleno.

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Not so much a poor showing by Magdaleno as it was a decent performance by Martinez. Martinez kept the pressure on Magdaleno the whole fight, and simply outworked him, he also scored the only KD of the fight which sealed the deal.

As for Zou, the Chinese can't get enough of this dude, feed him a steady diet of about 20-25 taxi-drivers, tomato-cans and homeless midgets. (Arum knows how to do this) Then find the weakest flyweight belt-holder, win a title and retire.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

As for Zou, the Chinese can't get enough of this dude, feed him a steady diet of about 20-25 taxi-drivers, tomato-cans and homeless midgets. (Arum knows how to do this) Then find the weakest flyweight belt-holder, win a title and retire.

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I agree, a lot of what you say might come to pass, but I'm hoping Shiming settles down and lives up to the hype. I like to see a Disney ending once in a while.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

As for Zou, the Chinese can't get enough of this dude, feed him a steady diet of about 20-25 taxi-drivers, tomato-cans and homeless midgets. (Arum knows how to do this) Then find the weakest flyweight belt-holder, win a title and retire.

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I agree, a lot of what you say might come to pass, but I'm hoping Shiming settles down and lives up to the hype. I like to see a Disney ending once in a while.

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Don't get me wrong, I wish Zou success, it would be great for boxing. At some point however Zou will get put with a good Pro flyweight who can hang & bang with him, and I don't see a good result.

Compared to flyweights like Estrada and Vilora who are solid muscle, Zou looks pathetic physically, and he appears to be an actor pretending to be a boxer, rather then actually being one.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

As for Zou, the Chinese can't get enough of this dude, feed him a steady diet of about 20-25 taxi-drivers, tomato-cans and homeless midgets. (Arum knows how to do this) Then find the weakest flyweight belt-holder, win a title and retire.

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This is an astute and highly probable assessment of what Arum's game plan could be.