If Wilder wins he wants Fury, then Klitschko

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

The successes of these guys make me wonder how they would fair had Helenius not been injured or if he and guys like Chris Byrd and Sam Peter were in their mid 20's right now.

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Yes they are poor, even worse than heavyweights in 2000 +.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Would Manny's management allow him to have a member of his camp that prohibited him from taking big money fights in the US would be a more accurate question.

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Not at all.

Arum would not change what works and risk his gravy boat.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

The successes of these guys make me wonder how they would fair had Helenius not been injured or if he and guys like Chris Byrd and Sam Peter were in their mid 20's right now.

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Yes they are poor, even worse than heavyweights in 2000 +.

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I don't think they are poor I think they just have different styles and peaked at different times.

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Would Manny's management allow him to have a member of his camp that prohibited him from taking big money fights in the US would be a more accurate question.

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Not at all.

Arum would not change what works and risk his gravy boat.

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Former meth dealers don't 'work' very well when it comes to international business. It remains to be seen if the germsns will want him. Sadly I can't see Wlad being interested enough to come to the UK.

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Originally Posted by ross

Would Manny Pacquiao fight in England if he couldnt take Roach? Would his management team allow that?

Get real! No fighter in or around world class or on the verge of a title would take a fight where they were not able to take the most important person in his camp with them:rolleyes:

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I'm think Roach did it, just can't think of whom he left to help Pac-- When he was on his winning streak-fighters were lining up to get with Roach & he took on more than he could handle.

But I do see your point.

Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko, Says Finkel - Boxing News

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Originally Posted by SlimTrae

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Originally Posted by ross

Would Manny Pacquiao fight in England if he couldnt take Roach? Would his management team allow that?

Get real! No fighter in or around world class or on the verge of a title would take a fight where they were not able to take the most important person in his camp with them:rolleyes:

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I'm think Roach did it, just can't think of whom he left to help Pac-- When he was on his winning streak-fighters were lining up to get with Roach & he took on more than he could handle.

But I do see your point.

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It was Provodnikov when he fought Alvarado. Roach's little assistant ran the corner because he was away with Manny.

Off the top of my head - Lee Purdy fought Devon Alexander without his trainer - Tony Simms - in the corner. Darren Barker did it.

What's wrong with between rounds Skype sessions? Trainer Monkey does it, most of his fighters are still alive.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

What's wrong with between rounds Skype sessions? Trainer Monkey does it, most of his fighters are still alive.

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HAHAHAHA remember when Trainer Monkey was trying to train Kid Thunder via the internet.
Didn't work out to well from what I recall.

Kid Thunder before trainer monkey - 2 wins 13 losses.
Kid Thunders record after Trainer Monkey now stands at - 2 wins 23 losses 22 by ko.


So internet trainers are the future for sure lol.

Klitschko's Manager: Fury/Wilder Next, No Truth on Briggs - Boxing News

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

The successes of these guys make me wonder how they would fair had Helenius not been injured or if he and guys like Chris Byrd and Sam Peter were in their mid 20's right now.

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A waste of your valuable time, sir. Lol

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

The successes of these guys make me wonder how they would fair had Helenius not been injured or if he and guys like Chris Byrd and Sam Peter were in their mid 20's right now.

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Yes they are poor, even worse than heavyweights in 2000 +.

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They're what we have now, look to the future.
Somewhere over the rainbow, way……