Re: bring back 15 round fights
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brocktonblockbust
guys like Chris Arreola I don't think could fight 15 rounds. Even Bermain Stivyrne look completely exhausted after 8 or 9....never look so good beyond 8 rounds either and Mike Tyson certainly petered out after eight or nine rounds himself. Gone are the days or fighters could fight 15 solid rounds. Let's take a look at Rocky Marciano that monster just kept getting stronger and stronger the more rounds he fought. I think Rocky could probably fight 20 or 25 rounds no problem
ANY boxer can go ANY number of rounds depending on how well they pace themselves and how hard their opponent pushes the pace on them. Modern opponents are heavier and more explosive and would wear out a nostalgic boxer much faster. Conversely though a modern more heavier boxer must pace themselves more than their older counterparts else they will gas more easily also.
Bigger is better in boxing. Explosiveness is better in boxing, so long as energy conservatism is maintained for the number of rounds.
Stivernes workrate is so low he could easily make 15 rounds, the single Wilder fight where he looked exhausted he got beaten up for 12 rounds and suffered from rhabdomyolysis and dehydration and STILL survived.
And the Arreola comment was even more ridiculous. The HW with one of the best gas tanks in HW boxing today, able to at 240lbs push one of the hardest paces for 12 rounds on his opponents, wouldn't be able to scratch out an extra few? No way LOL
Re: bring back 15 round fights
3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.
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Yes I could see how Mayweather would benefit from more rounds.
Re: bring back 15 round fights
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brocktonblockbust
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Max Power
Yes I could see how Mayweather would benefit from more rounds.
yes he could show off those twinkle toes for an extra 9 nauseating minutes
Please stop..
You just convinced me about the merits of those rounds being exciting.
And now the thought of watching 3 more rounds of Floyd calls it all into question again LOL
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Hagler loved 15 rounds, I bet not many would look forward to 15 ROUND BEATING, off Marvin
that extra 9 minutes off hell, I loved 15 round fights.:)
Re: bring back 15 round fights
im shocked how many people vote for 12 rounds - thought it would be 99 percent for 15
Im for 15 myself - think it would also eliminate alot of the older guys - would love to see how klitscho/hopkins etc all do over 15 rounds - not that they couldn't - more so in klitschos case as he's usually beating on them- but would be interesting to see.
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15 rounds for championship fights :D
Re: bring back 15 round fights
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brocktonblockbust
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Master
3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.
hell yeah three more rounds to show off his ballerina skills
Modern opponents are heavier and more explosive and would wear out a nostalgic boxer much faster.
Notice this statement can only be made to one division thus the knowledge here is :7 weight class-deficient. Unless we look at the extra 10 divisions added on in the past 20 or so years.
Oh, wait a modern Welterweight is much more lean in muscle mass, with his general nutrition centers at your local shopping mall. While those old Neanderthal Welterweight just aren't as toned, they don't have the modern techniques, the modern whey protein and creatine.
Obviously a 1960's MW would never compare with a modern day MW. Today's MW are totally bigger, stronger, smarter and more uh...athletic. Yeah that's it! More uh, athletic.
With that being said; the Jetsons' Astro would slaughter the Flintstones Dino. Dino is prehistoric, Astro is a scientific canine.
Re: bring back 15 round fights
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SlimTrae
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brocktonblockbust
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Master
3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.
hell yeah three more rounds to show off his ballerina skills
Modern opponents are heavier and more explosive and would wear out a nostalgic boxer much faster.
Notice this statement can only be made to one division thus the knowledge here is :7 weight class-deficient. Unless we look at the extra 10 divisions added on in the past 20 or so years.
Oh, wait a modern Welterweight is much more lean in muscle mass, with his general nutrition centers at your local shopping mall. While those old Neanderthal Welterweight just aren't as toned, they don't have the modern techniques, the modern whey protein and creatine.
Obviously a 1960's MW would never compare with a modern day MW. Today's MW are totally bigger, stronger, smarter and more uh...athletic. Yeah that's it! More uh, athletic.
With that being said; the Jetsons' Astro would slaughter the Flintstones Dino. Dino is prehistoric, Astro is a scientific canine.
Well Slim, you actually did answer your own question here.
A MW today IS approximately 15lbs heavier on fight night AND much leaner too so all up we're talking a difference of about 25lbs or 2 or 3 divisions.
Even if we completely disregard weight when discussing limited divisions and strictly compare fighters cross eras who are the same size on fight night, the performance of the modern fighters over 12 rounds is FAR more explosive than before to the point it isn't debatable.
12 rounds is simply a superior figure for a boxing match over 15 beyond any doubt.
The ONLY thing relevant is that championship level fights are long enough for tactical boxing plans to play out (like wearing down the body etc), for which purpose, 12 rounds is AMPLE long enough.
Other than that, the longer a fight goes for, the more it is simply an endurance and a pacing game and the less it is an explosive event. Longer=weaker.
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Only the Facebook generation could have a problem with 15 round fights. 'My attention span just can't take it!'. Please. :rolleyes:
