Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
I think GGG should move up but I can see why he hasnt. Theres bigger fights for bigger money at his weight or the weight below. Yet again. How can Floyd take on Alvarez, a fighter of similar size to GGG, and younger then him, but a fight against GGG is impossible?
I hate Floyd, hes a cunt and his fights are shit. but I judge him equally to other fighters, and unfortunately for him, there arent many who go around calling themselves the best ever. It seems strange that you are giving out so much about this matchup. Do you not give Floyd a chance in the fight? Id make Floyd favorite at 154 and couldnt see how you could make GGG favorite, although it would probably be a lot closer than Floyds other fights, which again tells me he wont fight guys who genuinely have a chance of beating him.
Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
Since Ive been on this site Ive said there are 2 guys at Floyds weight who have a decent chance of beating him, Khan and Thurman. I believe Floyd knows this too and thats why he wont fight them either. Again Floyd is definitely favorite in both fights but in all his fights to date Id expect these 2 to cause him more trouble.
Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
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I think GGG should move up but I can see why he hasnt. Theres bigger fights for bigger money at his weight or the weight below. Yet again. How can Floyd take on Alvarez, a fighter of similar size to GGG, and younger then him, but a fight against GGG is impossible?
I hate Floyd, but I judge him equally to other fighters, and unfortunately for him, there arent many who go around calling themselves the best ever. It seems strange that you are giving out so much about this matchup. Do you not give Floyd a chance in the fight? Id make Floyd favorite at 154 and couldnt see how you could make GGG favorite, although it would probably be a lot closer than Floyds other fights, which again tells me he wont fight guys who genuinely have a chance of beating him.
Good job not responding to my post.
Typical Pactard...
Yes I like GGG so I must be a Pactard. Typical Floyd nuthugger. He cant answer the one question Ive asked so just resort to calling me a retard and a pactard to support your argument. Good job Rocco.
Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
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Canelo was 165 on fight night, since you're too stupid and lazy to look it up. GGG averages170 and over on fight nights. If 20 to 25 pounds difference is no big deal for Mayweather to have to give up, then why doesn't GGG give up that 7 more pounds and go down to 147 to fight Floyd at Floyd's more natural weight?
If it's too much to ask a 33 year old fighter go down that much then it must be too much to ask a 39 year old to go up that much.
Can your Pactard brain understand?
Why should Floyd Mayweather risk his health in the last fight of his professional career?
You can't stand the idea that he's going to get out of boxing rich and undefeated and healthy so you'd like to see him fight a man 20-25lbs heavier than him for your own satisfaction and you call him a coward if he doesn't. You're pathetic!
Again Im not asking Mayweather to go any higher than he has before. GGG fights at 160. If he had to make weight of 154 its pretty obvious he wont balloon up to 170, he will much more likely come in around 165. Again making him the same size as Alvarez.
I dont care that he comes out of boxing rich or undefeated. Its no skin of my arse. Its not my money he has and its not me hes beating up so I couldnt care whether he retires undefeated a multi millionaire or with a few defeats and broke like other great fighters before him. I just want to see him in good tough competitive fights. He could try to cement himself as the best ever but to you nut huggers you seem to think he already has done enough to deserve this title. I just dont get it.
Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
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Also, Floyd beats Thurman, Khan and GGG.
You had a great first post saying the difference in size would be too much and then say he beats GGG. He would not at middleweight for the reasons you outlined.
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ruthless rocco
Canelo was 165 on fight night, since you're too stupid and lazy to look it up. GGG averages170 and over on fight nights. If 20 to 25 pounds difference is no big deal for Mayweather to have to give up, then why doesn't GGG give up that 7 more pounds and go down to 147 to fight Floyd at Floyd's more natural weight?
If it's too much to ask a 33 year old fighter go down that much then it must be too much to ask a 39 year old to go up that much.
Can your Pactard brain understand?
Why should Floyd Mayweather risk his health in the last fight of his professional career?
You can't stand the idea that he's going to get out of boxing rich and undefeated and healthy so you'd like to see him fight a man 20-25lbs heavier than him for your own satisfaction and you call him a coward if he doesn't. You're pathetic!
Again Im not asking Mayweather to go any higher than he has before. GGG fights at 160. If he had to make weight of 154 its pretty obvious he wont balloon up to 170, he will much more likely come in around 165. Again making him the same size as Alvarez.
I dont care that he comes out of boxing rich or undefeated. Its no skin of my arse. Its not my money he has and its not me hes beating up so I couldnt care whether he retires undefeated a multi millionaire or with a few defeats and broke like other great fighters before him. I just want to see him in good tough competitive fights. He could try to cement himself as the best ever but to you nut huggers you seem to think he already has done enough to deserve this title. I just dont get it.
I can see that you just don't get it.
You've already admitted that you're a Floyd hater so no matter what he does you aren't ever going to respect him as a fighter.
You haters are all the same. You make a claim that if Floyd fought "opponent X" then he would prove his worth. He fights "opponent X" and beats him, then you all make excuses to discredit the win. "He was weight drained"(even tho you backed the catch weight before the fight). "He was injured". "He made him fight in Vegas, had it been elsewhere he would have lost.."
You haters are blinded by your hate despite your claims to the contrary. In the end it doesn't matter anyway. So keep hating Floyd for his accomplishments and keep holding every other fighter to a different (lower) standard.
Rocco what is wrong with you. Silkeyjoe has just said he could not careless and you call him a hater. just because someone comments negatively on Floyd does not make him a hater.
Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
I think the point is Floyd is the best welterweight, he has beaten the best light middle so what real challenges are there for him in his last 2 fights he will probably have.
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Rocco what is wrong with you. Silkeyjoe has just said he could not careless and you call him a hater. just because someone comments negatively on Floyd does not make him a hater.
Did you read the post at the top of this page?
The one where he says: "I hate Floyd, hes a cunt and his fights are shit."
Guess you missed that.
Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
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ruthless rocco
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Rocco what is wrong with you. Silkeyjoe has just said he could not careless and you call him a hater. just because someone comments negatively on Floyd does not make him a hater.
Did you read the post at the top of this page?
The one where he says:
"I hate Floyd, hes a cunt and his fights are shit."
Guess you missed that.
Yes I did.
Re: The Myth Of GGG As The Man To Beat Mayweather
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ruthless rocco
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Silkeyjoe
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ruthless rocco
Canelo was 165 on fight night, since you're too stupid and lazy to look it up. GGG averages170 and over on fight nights. If 20 to 25 pounds difference is no big deal for Mayweather to have to give up, then why doesn't GGG give up that 7 more pounds and go down to 147 to fight Floyd at Floyd's more natural weight?
If it's too much to ask a 33 year old fighter go down that much then it must be too much to ask a 39 year old to go up that much.
Can your Pactard brain understand?
Why should Floyd Mayweather risk his health in the last fight of his professional career?
You can't stand the idea that he's going to get out of boxing rich and undefeated and healthy so you'd like to see him fight a man 20-25lbs heavier than him for your own satisfaction and you call him a coward if he doesn't. You're pathetic!
Again Im not asking Mayweather to go any higher than he has before. GGG fights at 160. If he had to make weight of 154 its pretty obvious he wont balloon up to 170, he will much more likely come in around 165. Again making him the same size as Alvarez.
I dont care that he comes out of boxing rich or undefeated. Its no skin of my arse. Its not my money he has and its not me hes beating up so I couldnt care whether he retires undefeated a multi millionaire or with a few defeats and broke like other great fighters before him. I just want to see him in good tough competitive fights. He could try to cement himself as the best ever but to you nut huggers you seem to think he already has done enough to deserve this title. I just dont get it.
I can see that you just don't get it.
You've already admitted that you're a Floyd hater so no matter what he does you aren't ever going to respect him as a fighter.
You haters are all the same. You make a claim that if Floyd fought "opponent X" then he would prove his worth. He fights "opponent X" and beats him, then you all make excuses to discredit the win. "He was weight drained"(even tho you backed the catch weight before the fight). "He was injured". "He made him fight in Vegas, had it been elsewhere he would have lost.."
You haters are blinded by your hate despite your claims to the contrary. In the end it doesn't matter anyway. So keep hating Floyd for his accomplishments and keep holding every other fighter to a different (lower) standard.
Theres plenty of fighters I hate and respect, including Floyd. Theres no doubt hes the best fighter of this generation. I also dont mind his style. If I could be a fighter id love to have the great defensive skills of him or willie pep. Im just saying if he wants to be known as the best ever he has to take some challenges in his career (even though hes coming towards the end of it). And for all the excuses being made please find where I made one of these excuses. I didnt think the Canelo fight would be competitive before the fight took place. Same goes for the Pacquiao fight. I thought fighting Maidana twice was a joke.
Take Leonard for example. I think its very close between him and Floyd in all time rankings. But I have Ray slightly higher. Floyd never fought a welter weight of Tommy Hearns class and definitely didnt fight a fighter like Hagler. But Ray did get a lot of his fighters hand picked too as, like you said, all great fighters do. Ray also lost to Duran who I could never see beating Floyd.
