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Did they secede?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by El KabongQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Say what you want about Ali, say what you want about Bill, but I'll be God damned if you DARE call Kentucky Southern!
Hey don't fight ME.
Fight these guys.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
;D
No
And THEREFORE they aren't Southern...neither is West Virginia
Of course he won it for himself boxing in a ring is not a team sport.Bill, you get stupider everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom1960Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Cassius Clay didn't win the Gold Medal for the United States Boxing Team or America, he won it for
"Himself"
Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language
Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
A mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
He has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustA mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by El KabongDid they secede?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Say what you want about Ali, say what you want about Bill, but I'll be God damned if you DARE call Kentucky Southern!
Hey don't fight ME.
Fight these guys.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States
;D
No
And THEREFORE they aren't Southern...neither is West Virginia
Ok, whatever. You'll have to take that up with the U.S. Census Bureau.
Meanwhile, I'll fix it.......
So....... in the United States south Kentucky of the 50's and 60's...... Ali was NEVER discriminated against because of being black.
Hmmm....... :rolleyes:
I have watched the film Happy and people were discriminated against.
It was 'you' Master, who said Cassius Clay 'won' a Gold Medal for his Country.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterOf course he won it for himself boxing in a ring is not a team sport.Bill, you get stupider everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom1960Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Cassius Clay didn't win the Gold Medal for the United States Boxing Team or America, he won it for
"Himself"
WOW, aren't you the Pot calling Cassius Clay 'Black'.
I was merely correcting you .......................... Again As Usual !!!
We honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustA mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Human beings are only human. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedWe honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustA mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
~ What Are Friends For ~
Malcolm X > "Can I count on you Brother Cassius."
Cassius X > "Brother Malcolm, I'll be right next to you, every step of the way."
Malcom X > "I want you with me Brother Cassius. Side by side."
Cassisu X > "But you go first, right.
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...xVSg83jZorofbw
Like you would take a bullet for Malcolm X.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
Not really. It's more like both all three of you , have some kind of fixation. So the guy is/was a hypocrite. You think he was the first and last ? He had a big mouth. You think that is something rare in boxing ? He treated Joe Frazier abysmally. I and countless others love Joe precisely because he showed what kind of man he was by rising above such bullshit. It just gold plates his bravery and fortitude inside and outside the ring refusing to bite back when Ali dangled such a clumsy twisted hook in front of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedWe honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustA mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
This is not just your local boozer, it's a boxing forum. How many interviews, fights, reports, interviews and biographies do you think we have all seen? You are preaching to the choir. Even those who (IMHO) wrongly rate him too highly inside the ring are all quick to acknowledge his shortcomings outside of it. We get it, you don't like the guy, but nobody deserves to struggle physically like he does for every minute of every day. Yes the general public and the media get sentimental and mawkish but how pointless and irrelevant is it when he is suffering like he is to get hung up about him changing his name 51 friggin years ago. Thread after thread after thread. Nobody speaks more about Ali than those who apparently have no time for him.
Bloody hell it gets boring.
Everything you just said is pure BS. You sir, are a bullshit artist. Speak truly or don't talk to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzNot really. It's more like both all three of you , have some kind of fixation. So the guy is/was a hypocrite. You think he was the first and last ? He had a big mouth. You think that is something rare in boxing ? He treated Joe Frazier abysmally. I and countless others love Joe precisely because he showed what kind of man he was by rising above such bullshit. It just gold plates his bravery and fortitude inside and outside the ring refusing to bite back when Ali dangled such a clumsy twisted hook in front of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedWe honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHe has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustA mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
This is not just your local boozer, it's a boxing forum. How many interviews, fights, reports, interviews and biographies do you think we have all seen? You are preaching to the choir. Even those who (IMHO) wrongly rate him too highly inside the ring are all quick to acknowledge his shortcomings outside of it. We get it, you don't like the guy, but nobody deserves to struggle physically like he does for every minute of every day. Yes the general public and the media get sentimental and mawkish but how pointless and irrelevant is it when he is suffering like he is to get hung up about him changing his name 51 friggin years ago. Thread after thread after thread. Nobody speaks more about Ali than those who apparently have no time for him.
Bloody hell it gets boring.