Printable View
Can't be arsed to check. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
so despite the PPVs doing less than half for the fury fight the fighters cumulatively got £5 million more?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFury's Purse £5 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
anyone know any information about gate receipts or TV rites?
this is important masterQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterCan't be arsed to check. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44so despite the PPVs doing less than half for the fury fight the fighters cumulatively got £5 million more?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFury's Purse £5 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
anyone know any information about gate receipts or TV rites?
Why? You the tax man.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44this is important masterQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterCan't be arsed to check. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44so despite the PPVs doing less than half for the fury fight the fighters cumulatively got £5 million more?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFury's Purse £5 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
anyone know any information about gate receipts or TV rites?
I read Fury ended up with 7.5 and its all in dollars for some reason.
Again, this was Tyson Furys first world title fight. Haye had been in at least 5. Mormeck, Macaranelli, Valuev, Ruiz and Harrison. Not an amazing list;D but they had all had major promotion which Hayes appeal benefitted from.
Tyson hasnt done bad at all for a first time challenger and like I said find another first time world title challenger who was paid as much or created such a big event.
Even the biggest name in boxing Floyd Mayweather didnt become a pay per view fighter until about 7 years after becoming a world champion!
Tyson is going to be big time and hes already there!
no, I'm the fax manQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhy? You the tax man.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44this is important masterQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterCan't be arsed to check. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44so despite the PPVs doing less than half for the fury fight the fighters cumulatively got £5 million more?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFury's Purse £5 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
anyone know any information about gate receipts or TV rites?
"fax as in Facts not as in a fax machine"
I'm just trying to quantify it, know what I mean
all very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
doesn't really suggest he will be a bigger draw than Haye though
fury got a small share of a big pie and you cant really compare the heavies with lighter weights, they have an instant appeal advantage
if it ends that he commands more dosh than haye then he will be a big draw indeed
I think hes going to do that in his next fight dont you?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44all very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
doesn't really suggest he will be a bigger draw than Haye though
fury got a small share of a big pie and you cant really compare the heavies with lighter weights, they have an instant appeal advantage
if it ends that he commands more dosh than haye then he will be a big draw indeed
First you say "Fury has eclipsed Haye, made Wlad more money, him more money, has taken over as the greatest fighter on the planet, blah, blah,fucking blah! " Then , you get fucked over by the facts and you say "Yeah but this was Fury's first World title shot and yeah but, yeah fucking but!" That's when you change the goalposts.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat goal posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep, keep changing the goalposts to suit your argument.😕Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat did Haye get for his first world title challenge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko purse: How much will the boxers earn from heavyweight bout in Dusseldorf? | City A.M.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWatch out you might choke on it;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"He got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:"Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
What's that I smell? Oh Yeah, BULLSHIT!
😂😂
Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury Purse Payouts Details
Depends what Bullshit you prefer to believe! Read the bottom 2 paragraphs, I'm sure you'll enjoy them. ;D:cool:;D:cool:;D:cool: (enough emojis for you?)
You forget Haye had been promoted by Sky and Setanta a fair few times by then:rolleyes:
Tyson is new to the scene and burst in smashing the doors down;D
Dear oh dear!
Haye had been promoted by Sky 4 or 5 times in world title fights before the Wlad fight. He was hardly new to the audience;D Tyson was;)
Personally, I'm not sure that Haye's comeback is going to add up to all that much. Too much time away, a shoulder that could be fucked, and his assets (Power and relative speed)will have diminished in the time away, while his competitors have improved.
However, the way you blatantly disregard and disrespect every single other fighter in that division that doesn't have the Fury surname is quite frankly nauseating.
Now do yourself a favour and make yourself 2 New Years Resolutions:
1. Take your head out of Fury's ass once in a while to get some air. And
2. Stop talking like a cunt all the time.
furys next fight will be worth more than hayes next fight yesQuote:
Originally Posted by rossI think hes going to do that in his next fight dont you?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44all very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
doesn't really suggest he will be a bigger draw than Haye though
fury got a small share of a big pie and you cant really compare the heavies with lighter weights, they have an instant appeal advantage
if it ends that he commands more dosh than haye then he will be a big draw indeed
Remember there is also worldwide TV sales to be added to this. And the German rights were probably very pricey...Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44so despite the PPVs doing less than half for the fury fight the fighters cumulatively got £5 million more?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFury's Purse £5 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44
anyone know any information about gate receipts or TV rites?
Any fight Haye has had;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44furys next fight will be worth more than hayes next fight yesQuote:
Originally Posted by rossI think hes going to do that in his next fight dont you?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44all very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
doesn't really suggest he will be a bigger draw than Haye though
fury got a small share of a big pie and you cant really compare the heavies with lighter weights, they have an instant appeal advantage
if it ends that he commands more dosh than haye then he will be a big draw indeed
You are a moron arent you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFirst you say "Fury has eclipsed Haye, made Wlad more money, him more money, has taken over as the greatest fighter on the planet, blah, blah,fucking blah! " Then , you get fucked over by the facts and you say "Yeah but this was Fury's first World title shot and yeah but, yeah fucking but!" That's when you change the goalposts.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat goal posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep, keep changing the goalposts to suit your argument.í ½í¸•Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat did Haye get for his first world title challenge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko purse: How much will the boxers earn from heavyweight bout in Dusseldorf? | City A.M.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWatch out you might choke on it;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"He got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:"Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
What's that I smell? Oh Yeah, BULLSHIT!
í ½í¸‚í ½í¸‚
Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury Purse Payouts Details
Depends what Bullshit you prefer to believe! Read the bottom 2 paragraphs, I'm sure you'll enjoy them. ;D:cool:;D:cool:;D:cool: (enough emojis for you?)
You forget Haye had been promoted by Sky and Setanta a fair few times by then:rolleyes:
Tyson is new to the scene and burst in smashing the doors down;D
Dear oh dear!
Haye had been promoted by Sky 4 or 5 times in world title fights before the Wlad fight. He was hardly new to the audience;D Tyson was;)
Personally, I'm not sure that Haye's comeback is going to add up to all that much. Too much time away, a shoulder that could be fucked, and his assets (Power and relative speed)will have diminished in the time away, while his competitors have improved.
However, the way you blatantly disregard and disrespect every single other fighter in that division that doesn't have the Fury surname is quite frankly nauseating.
Now do yourself a favour and make yourself 2 New Years Resolutions:
1. Take your head out of Fury's ass once in a while to get some air. And
2. Stop talking like a cunt all the time.
You are trying to unfairly judge the appeal and draw of a first time world title challenger to that of a boxer who had been promoted as a world champion for 4 years!;D
Its you that is trying to narrow the posts as is Erics.
The first Wlad Fury fight was worth more than the Wlad Haye fight. The rematch even if only worth the same will see Fury get the lions share as the defending champ and earning more than Hayes biggest purse in only his second world title fight;D
Oh ots also going to be the first succesfull defence of unified titles at heavy something Haye also never did.
Haye isnt a bad fighter but hes not what some still delude themselves in to thinking he is. Hes on the same level as a Lucas Browne right now someone whos on the fringes who would get found out at the top.
what does narrow the posts mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou are a moron arent you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFirst you say "Fury has eclipsed Haye, made Wlad more money, him more money, has taken over as the greatest fighter on the planet, blah, blah,fucking blah! " Then , you get fucked over by the facts and you say "Yeah but this was Fury's first World title shot and yeah but, yeah fucking but!" That's when you change the goalposts.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat goal posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep, keep changing the goalposts to suit your argument.������Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat did Haye get for his first world title challenge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko purse: How much will the boxers earn from heavyweight bout in Dusseldorf? | City A.M.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWatch out you might choke on it;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"He got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:"Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
What's that I smell? Oh Yeah, BULLSHIT!
������������
Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury Purse Payouts Details
Depends what Bullshit you prefer to believe! Read the bottom 2 paragraphs, I'm sure you'll enjoy them. ;D:cool:;D:cool:;D:cool: (enough emojis for you?)
You forget Haye had been promoted by Sky and Setanta a fair few times by then:rolleyes:
Tyson is new to the scene and burst in smashing the doors down;D
Dear oh dear!
Haye had been promoted by Sky 4 or 5 times in world title fights before the Wlad fight. He was hardly new to the audience;D Tyson was;)
Personally, I'm not sure that Haye's comeback is going to add up to all that much. Too much time away, a shoulder that could be fucked, and his assets (Power and relative speed)will have diminished in the time away, while his competitors have improved.
However, the way you blatantly disregard and disrespect every single other fighter in that division that doesn't have the Fury surname is quite frankly nauseating.
Now do yourself a favour and make yourself 2 New Years Resolutions:
1. Take your head out of Fury's ass once in a while to get some air. And
2. Stop talking like a cunt all the time.
You are trying to unfairly judge the appeal and draw of a first time world title challenger to that of a boxer who had been promoted as a world champion for 4 years!;D
Its you that is trying to narrow the posts as is Erics.
The first Wlad Fury fight was worth more than the Wlad Haye fight. The rematch even if only worth the same will see Fury get the lions share as the defending champ and earning more than Hayes biggest purse in only his second world title fight;D
Oh ots also going to be the first succesfull defence of unified titles at heavy something Haye also never did.
Haye isnt a bad fighter but hes not what some still delude themselves in to thinking he is. Hes on the same level as a Lucas Browne right now someone whos on the fringes who would get found out at the top.
I'm just trying to find out what the facts are
The original question that I am trying to find out is - who is the bigger draw fury or haye, and i'm going into it with an open mind
I'm not that confident that Fury Wlad was worth more than Haye Wlad just because you said it was
I mean, if I told you I had a 12 inch nob would you believe me without doing some research yourself?
I haven't "unfairly judged" fucking anything, you fool, and nor has Eric. They were just replies to your conjecture.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou are a moron arent you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFirst you say "Fury has eclipsed Haye, made Wlad more money, him more money, has taken over as the greatest fighter on the planet, blah, blah,fucking blah! " Then , you get fucked over by the facts and you say "Yeah but this was Fury's first World title shot and yeah but, yeah fucking but!" That's when you change the goalposts.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat goal posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep, keep changing the goalposts to suit your argument.������Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat did Haye get for his first world title challenge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko purse: How much will the boxers earn from heavyweight bout in Dusseldorf? | City A.M.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWatch out you might choke on it;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"He got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:"Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
What's that I smell? Oh Yeah, BULLSHIT!
������������
Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury Purse Payouts Details
Depends what Bullshit you prefer to believe! Read the bottom 2 paragraphs, I'm sure you'll enjoy them. ;D:cool:;D:cool:;D:cool: (enough emojis for you?)
You forget Haye had been promoted by Sky and Setanta a fair few times by then:rolleyes:
Tyson is new to the scene and burst in smashing the doors down;D
Dear oh dear!
Haye had been promoted by Sky 4 or 5 times in world title fights before the Wlad fight. He was hardly new to the audience;D Tyson was;)
Personally, I'm not sure that Haye's comeback is going to add up to all that much. Too much time away, a shoulder that could be fucked, and his assets (Power and relative speed)will have diminished in the time away, while his competitors have improved.
However, the way you blatantly disregard and disrespect every single other fighter in that division that doesn't have the Fury surname is quite frankly nauseating.
Now do yourself a favour and make yourself 2 New Years Resolutions:
1. Take your head out of Fury's ass once in a while to get some air. And
2. Stop talking like a cunt all the time.
You are trying to unfairly judge the appeal and draw of a first time world title challenger to that of a boxer who had been promoted as a world champion for 4 years!;D
Its you that is trying to narrow the posts as is Erics.
The first Wlad Fury fight was worth more than the Wlad Haye fight. The rematch even if only worth the same will see Fury get the lions share as the defending champ and earning more than Hayes biggest purse in only his second world title fight;D
Oh ots also going to be the first succesfull defence of unified titles at heavy something Haye also never did.
Haye isnt a bad fighter but hes not what some still delude themselves in to thinking he is. Hes on the same level as a Lucas Browne right now someone whos on the fringes who would get found out at the top.
Nobody Is denigrating Fury's achievements in his last fight , far from it. But it is merely a start, you go on like he has achieved World domination. He's got a long way to go in order to be the superhero you believe him to be. He might even get there, but there's a lot of work to be done yet.
Well it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44what does narrow the posts mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou are a moron arent you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraFirst you say "Fury has eclipsed Haye, made Wlad more money, him more money, has taken over as the greatest fighter on the planet, blah, blah,fucking blah! " Then , you get fucked over by the facts and you say "Yeah but this was Fury's first World title shot and yeah but, yeah fucking but!" That's when you change the goalposts.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat goal posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep, keep changing the goalposts to suit your argument.������Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWhat did Haye get for his first world title challenge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraTyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko purse: How much will the boxers earn from heavyweight bout in Dusseldorf? | City A.M.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWatch out you might choke on it;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"He got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:"Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe got over 20 for the Fury fight;D:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
What's that I smell? Oh Yeah, BULLSHIT!
������������
Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury Purse Payouts Details
Depends what Bullshit you prefer to believe! Read the bottom 2 paragraphs, I'm sure you'll enjoy them. ;D:cool:;D:cool:;D:cool: (enough emojis for you?)
You forget Haye had been promoted by Sky and Setanta a fair few times by then:rolleyes:
Tyson is new to the scene and burst in smashing the doors down;D
Dear oh dear!
Haye had been promoted by Sky 4 or 5 times in world title fights before the Wlad fight. He was hardly new to the audience;D Tyson was;)
Personally, I'm not sure that Haye's comeback is going to add up to all that much. Too much time away, a shoulder that could be fucked, and his assets (Power and relative speed)will have diminished in the time away, while his competitors have improved.
However, the way you blatantly disregard and disrespect every single other fighter in that division that doesn't have the Fury surname is quite frankly nauseating.
Now do yourself a favour and make yourself 2 New Years Resolutions:
1. Take your head out of Fury's ass once in a while to get some air. And
2. Stop talking like a cunt all the time.
You are trying to unfairly judge the appeal and draw of a first time world title challenger to that of a boxer who had been promoted as a world champion for 4 years!;D
Its you that is trying to narrow the posts as is Erics.
The first Wlad Fury fight was worth more than the Wlad Haye fight. The rematch even if only worth the same will see Fury get the lions share as the defending champ and earning more than Hayes biggest purse in only his second world title fight;D
Oh ots also going to be the first succesfull defence of unified titles at heavy something Haye also never did.
Haye isnt a bad fighter but hes not what some still delude themselves in to thinking he is. Hes on the same level as a Lucas Browne right now someone whos on the fringes who would get found out at the top.
I'm just trying to find out what the facts are
The original question that I am trying to find out is - who is the bigger draw fury or haye, and i'm going into it with an open mind
I'm not that confident that Fury Wlad was worth more than Haye Wlad just because you said it was
I mean, if I told you I had a 12 inch nob would you believe me without doing some research yourself?
You said Wlad Haye was a 50/50 split with both earning 10 million.
Wlad Fury although not an equal split had Wlads purse at 18 and Tysons at 5 (before pay per view shares) which is a combined 3 more than Wlad Haye.
Think of it like this as well. Had Fury also gone in to their fight as a defending champion and established world class fighter of 4 years he could also have demanded a fair split which would have been more than Hayes purse;D
Fury must be the bigger draw as he created a fight that was worth more than Hayes feeble effort.
Also, stop going on about nob size. Was it Ryan Giggs you told us you had seen?;D