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To be fair what other top contender has AJ fought outside of Wlad? Do casuals even know who Whyte or Ortiz are? Sure if Wilder beats Whyte it gives him some exposure among Brits, beating Ortiz would give him credibility among hardcore fans. Whyte arguably lost to Chisora. Wilder could quite easily do his mandatory, then do a uni with Parker. Bringing 2 belts to the bargaining table for an AJ clash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
After the first suspension I'd be careful of even taking cold medicine leading into a fight and Ortiz has really screwed the pooch here, as well as the fans and Showtime. At that age and pattern I'd say that's a wrap on any career at the top. Shouldn't guys be dropped in ranking for sabotaging a fight just like they are for losing a fight? If I was Wilder I'd be pissed enough to demand my spot stay on card and just get Stiverne out of the way. If he wusses out hey give Breazeale a crack. Guarantee he'll at least show up the scrap unlike Stiverne last time he met Wilder.
Adam Kownacki, Jarrell Miller, Andy Ruiz, Robert Helenius and Alexander Ustinov would all be better opponents than Whyte. Whoever Wilder fights, he beats so I guess it doesn’t matter much but I’d like to see him fight Ruiz so I can compare his performance with Parker’s.
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Agree 100%.
Supposedly Wilder said he will still fight Ortiz. I’m wondering if it’s just talk since I can’t imagine Ortiz even being allowed to fight.
Yeah, it's all talk. If they said "hey Deontay, you can fight him if you like, but the money will be way less seeing as it won't be a title fight.", I wonder what his answer would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
It is money money money with you. There are other things to life you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYeah, it's all talk. If they said "hey Deontay, you can fight him if you like, but the money will be way less seeing as it won't be a title fight.", I wonder what his answer would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Well correct me if I said anything wrong then?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is money money money with you. There are other things to life you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYeah, it's all talk. If they said "hey Deontay, you can fight him if you like, but the money will be way less seeing as it won't be a title fight.", I wonder what his answer would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
There still seems to be some ambiguity about this which I don't get at all. If he's taking a prescription drug for a preexisting condition he should have disclosed it and it be part of a TUE. If he didn't disclose it then he should be banned. As mentioned already, you get pinged once, you make fucking sure of everything. Those special tea bags that you like so much, check it the fuck out..
For me Ortiz is a cheat and an unapologetic one at that. He got banned before, blamed it on horse meat, couldn't be bothered to defend himself. Fast forward a couple of years, he's still cheating, probably never stopped, fucked up his cycle again and now he's playing the blood pressure (but definitely a diuretic to dilute his piss) card.
Ban them and charge them with attempted assault with a deadly weapon.
I bet it will be wilder v stivern 2 even tho most people are talking about dillion replacing ortiz
I just have no interest in a second stiverne fight.
Stiverne is the mandatory not because he has done anything amazing since he lost to Wilder but because he has good contacts with the alphabet boys. I would say Don King may have helped but unsure he still has that influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
He was on the card as obvious next up with Wilder winning and Breazeale not pullin upset. It's what the fans need, to just get it over, but not what the sport needs. King is also the guy who kept Tucker reheated on the shelf longer than most Egg mcmuffins should even be allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterStiverne is the mandatory not because he has done anything amazing since he lost to Wilder but because he has good contacts with the alphabet boys. I would say Don King may have helped but unsure he still has that influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I'm still waiting for Wilder to get -1- mega fight win and drop that trinket in the shitter. Fault Ortiz there in fairness
Also Povetkin.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliHe was on the card as obvious next up with Wilder winning and Breazeale not pullin upset. It's what the fans need, to just get it over, but not what the sport needs. King is also the guy who kept Tucker reheated on the shelf longer than most Egg mcmuffins should even be allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterStiverne is the mandatory not because he has done anything amazing since he lost to Wilder but because he has good contacts with the alphabet boys. I would say Don King may have helped but unsure he still has that influence.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I'm still waiting for Wilder to get -1- mega fight win and drop that trinket in the shitter. Fault Ortiz there in fairness