Wacko's Double Whammy Drunken Round by Round Tarver vs Hopkins/Cotto Malignaggi

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Are you getting the Kelley, B Pacquiao fight at the moment? I reckon Kelley's got both of the rounds so far, and Pacquiao is having to work harder for each punch that connects.

And as it's my 100th post, I'm hoping that I finally get to figure out what this cool click stuff is :p

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forget cool clicks and sad clicks....it is a hell you don't want any part of....trust me...please....

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CC wacko... rebooted the site 3 times last night with no joy... gonna look at changing to a new server in the next week or so ;)

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Don't do it on my account...we can suffer a bit to keep you from going to that much trouble.

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CC wacko... rebooted the site 3 times last night with no joy... gonna look at changing to a new server in the next week or so ;)

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Don't do it on my account...we can suffer a bit to keep you from going to that much trouble.

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ive gotten a few secret projects i want to do with this site and an upgrade is needed to make them work... so this is just pushing me to it.

saying that this im paying good money already on a dediceted server and the place still crashes... so im not that happy with it as it is ;)

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Originally Posted by The Game

CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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5-6 ROUNDS!!!! thats more than the judges on the night?!

115-112 was at least realistic, the other 2 judges, less realistic.

I had Cotto winning by 1 point, the knockdown in effect, level going into the final round.

I can see if you gave it 115-112, depends whether ur scoring for power or shots landed, activity etc.

9 rounds to 3 ur suggesting there The Game, I usually agree with you but cant see how you got that.

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Originally Posted by The Game

CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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Based on responses, maybe it's you who needs to go and watch the replay, no?

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Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

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Originally Posted by The Game

CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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5-6 ROUNDS!!!! thats more than the judges on the night?!

115-112 was at least realistic, the other 2 judges, less realistic.

I had Cotto winning by 1 point, the knockdown in effect, level going into the final round.

I can see if you gave it 115-112, depends whether ur scoring for power or shots landed, activity etc.

9 rounds to 3 ur suggesting there The Game, I usually agree with you but cant see how you got that.

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Cotto was landing the bigger blows,the cleaner blows,working the body,pumping the jab and bust Paulie up. You are mistaking courage for points. How anyone saw that going to the last round is beyond me.....Cotto wa salso blocking a VERY HIGH percentage of what Paulie threw at the beginning with great defence,Paulie landed later and the only rounds Paulie won was when Cotto did nothing for the round. Even one of the US commentators stated he was not counting the rounds but Cotto won by a large amount. To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton....noooooo way. I have seen the fight 3 times,the judges scorecards and the US commentator sooooo......and I have seen the fight 3 times,I suggest you take off the Hatton tinted glasses and watch it.
If it's as close as you guys said,why did Paulie look so dejected as soon as the fight ended and if there is only 1 round in it,Malignaggi will be shouting for a rematch won't he,becaus that was that close......

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Originally Posted by The Game

CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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5-6 ROUNDS!!!! thats more than the judges on the night?!

115-112 was at least realistic, the other 2 judges, less realistic.

I had Cotto winning by 1 point, the knockdown in effect, level going into the final round.

I can see if you gave it 115-112, depends whether ur scoring for power or shots landed, activity etc.

9 rounds to 3 ur suggesting there The Game, I usually agree with you but cant see how you got that.

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Cotto was landing the bigger blows,the cleaner blows,working the body,pumping the jab and bust Paulie up. You are mistaking courage for points. How anyone saw that going to the last round is beyond me.....Cotto wa salso blocking a VERY HIGH percentage of what Paulie threw at the beginning with great defence,Paulie landed later and the only rounds Paulie won was when Cotto did nothing for the round. Even one of the US commentators stated he was not counting the rounds but Cotto won by a large amount. To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton....noooooo way. I have seen the fight 3 times,the judges scorecards and the US commentator sooooo......and I have seen the fight 3 times,I suggest you take off the Hatton tinted glasses and watch it.
If it's as close as you guys said,why did Paulie look so dejected as soon as the fight ended and if there is only 1 round in it,Malignaggi will be shouting for a rematch won't he,becaus that was that close......

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I can't remember what he did at the finl bell, but if that's what you're basing it on you're grasping at straws.

Hopkins pitched a shutout against Tarver, but didn't raise his arms at the bell and looked pretty sombre. Does that mean he lost too?

cool
i just noticed that i'm able to give cool clicks now
definately wanted to give you a cool click for awhile now wacko
good shit as usual, good shit

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Originally Posted by The Game

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Originally Posted by AC-Cobra

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Originally Posted by The Game

CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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5-6 ROUNDS!!!! thats more than the judges on the night?!

115-112 was at least realistic, the other 2 judges, less realistic.

I had Cotto winning by 1 point, the knockdown in effect, level going into the final round.

I can see if you gave it 115-112, depends whether ur scoring for power or shots landed, activity etc.

9 rounds to 3 ur suggesting there The Game, I usually agree with you but cant see how you got that.

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Cotto was landing the bigger blows,the cleaner blows,working the body,pumping the jab and bust Paulie up. You are mistaking courage for points. How anyone saw that going to the last round is beyond me.....Cotto wa salso blocking a VERY HIGH percentage of what Paulie threw at the beginning with great defence,Paulie landed later and the only rounds Paulie won was when Cotto did nothing for the round. Even one of the US commentators stated he was not counting the rounds but Cotto won by a large amount. To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton....noooooo way. I have seen the fight 3 times,the judges scorecards and the US commentator sooooo......and I have seen the fight 3 times,I suggest you take off the Hatton tinted glasses and watch it.
If it's as close as you guys said,why did Paulie look so dejected as soon as the fight ended and if there is only 1 round in it,Malignaggi will be shouting for a rematch won't he,becaus that was that close......

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::** Cotto struggled. Harder blows to more cleaner crisp blows don't match up ;)

I think you're overrating Cotto's performance to be honest. He won the fight but in no way did he do it as easily as you're making it sound. And I think he would lose the rematch ;) Paulie's mistake was standing and trading after Cotto butted him. When he boxed he had your boy looking average at best.

Close fight but Cotto won. It was by no means as easy as you're making it sound. Kudos to Malignaggi for doing what he did considering what was against him.. and doing it with a broken jaw and nose ;)

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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times

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Originally Posted by The Game

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Originally Posted by The Game

CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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5-6 ROUNDS!!!! thats more than the judges on the night?!

115-112 was at least realistic, the other 2 judges, less realistic.

I had Cotto winning by 1 point, the knockdown in effect, level going into the final round.

I can see if you gave it 115-112, depends whether ur scoring for power or shots landed, activity etc.

9 rounds to 3 ur suggesting there The Game, I usually agree with you but cant see how you got that.

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Cotto was landing the bigger blows,the cleaner blows,working the body,pumping the jab and bust Paulie up. You are mistaking courage for points. How anyone saw that going to the last round is beyond me.....Cotto wa salso blocking a VERY HIGH percentage of what Paulie threw at the beginning with great defence,Paulie landed later and the only rounds Paulie won was when Cotto did nothing for the round. Even one of the US commentators stated he was not counting the rounds but Cotto won by a large amount. To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton....noooooo way. I have seen the fight 3 times,the judges scorecards and the US commentator sooooo......and I have seen the fight 3 times,I suggest you take off the Hatton tinted glasses and watch it.
If it's as close as you guys said,why did Paulie look so dejected as soon as the fight ended and if there is only 1 round in it,Malignaggi will be shouting for a rematch won't he,becaus that was that close......

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I can't remember what he did at the finl bell, but if that's what you're basing it on you're grasping at straws.

Hopkins pitched a shutout against Tarver, but didn't raise his arms at the bell and looked pretty sombre. Does that mean he lost too?

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i ALREADY stated what I was basing it on and that was just a further example first and second,I was using that as an example in the context of this fight....did I say it applied to all fights....no.....if it was as close as you say,1 round,then surely Paulie might have felt he won it?? Surely he'd ask for a rematch straight away?

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CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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5-6 ROUNDS!!!! thats more than the judges on the night?!

115-112 was at least realistic, the other 2 judges, less realistic.

I had Cotto winning by 1 point, the knockdown in effect, level going into the final round.

I can see if you gave it 115-112, depends whether ur scoring for power or shots landed, activity etc.

9 rounds to 3 ur suggesting there The Game, I usually agree with you but cant see how you got that.

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Cotto was landing the bigger blows,the cleaner blows,working the body,pumping the jab and bust Paulie up. You are mistaking courage for points. How anyone saw that going to the last round is beyond me.....Cotto wa salso blocking a VERY HIGH percentage of what Paulie threw at the beginning with great defence,Paulie landed later and the only rounds Paulie won was when Cotto did nothing for the round. Even one of the US commentators stated he was not counting the rounds but Cotto won by a large amount. To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton....noooooo way. I have seen the fight 3 times,the judges scorecards and the US commentator sooooo......and I have seen the fight 3 times,I suggest you take off the Hatton tinted glasses and watch it.
If it's as close as you guys said,why did Paulie look so dejected as soon as the fight ended and if there is only 1 round in it,Malignaggi will be shouting for a rematch won't he,becaus that was that close......

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Hold your horses Game, Im not attacking you so need to get so defensive. I know Cotto's your favourite fighter but calm down a sec.

This has nothing to do with "Hatton tinted" glasses, Im a huge fan of Cotto, I always pull for the guy and I believe always will unless he faces Hatton (patriotism).

If you watch the fight again, Paulie lands a lot. And judges count damage, workrate, accuracy, ring generalship, and effort among other fings in scoring a fight, three of which I would often have given to Maglinaggi (damage not in a million years of course). And Cotto REALLY went to sleep in the middle of the fight, and I mean rounds 4 through 9 he was on cruise control for some reason. When Cotto was smiling in his corner at one point (round ten I think) I figured he knew he had been coasting and his gameplan had been to let Maglinaggi tire and then knock his ass out. At this point I was still confident Cotto could stop Paulie, with Paulies visibility cut down and Cotto seemingly having more energy left. However, despite winning the final couple of rounds, but Cotto underestimated Maglinaggi and couldnt get rid of him.

I still believe Cotto won and believe he could beat Maglinaggi in an almost shut out now he would know how to handle him, it just seems he had the wrong gameplan, or was just too weigh drained.

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Originally Posted by The Game

To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton

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I didnt have it as close as Collazo and Hatton, I had that as a draw ;)

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Originally Posted by The Game

if it was as close as you say,1 round,then surely Paulie might have felt he won it?? Surely he'd ask for a rematch straight away?

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Why should he? Just because a fight was close, doesnt mean there should be a rematch. If it was a crowd pleaser or controversial, those mandate rematches. Winning a close fight, especially a unanimous decision doesnt mean you should have to give the other fighter a rematch.

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CC for the effort Wack.What happened,I thought guests were locked out at DRBR time?? I had B Hop winning every round and Cotto winning by 5-6 rounds. Cotto impressed and BhOp was just awesome.

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5-6 ROUNDS!!!! thats more than the judges on the night?!

115-112 was at least realistic, the other 2 judges, less realistic.

I had Cotto winning by 1 point, the knockdown in effect, level going into the final round.

I can see if you gave it 115-112, depends whether ur scoring for power or shots landed, activity etc.

9 rounds to 3 ur suggesting there The Game, I usually agree with you but cant see how you got that.

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Cotto was landing the bigger blows,the cleaner blows,working the body,pumping the jab and bust Paulie up. You are mistaking courage for points. How anyone saw that going to the last round is beyond me.....Cotto wa salso blocking a VERY HIGH percentage of what Paulie threw at the beginning with great defence,Paulie landed later and the only rounds Paulie won was when Cotto did nothing for the round. Even one of the US commentators stated he was not counting the rounds but Cotto won by a large amount. To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton....noooooo way. I have seen the fight 3 times,the judges scorecards and the US commentator sooooo......and I have seen the fight 3 times,I suggest you take off the Hatton tinted glasses and watch it.
If it's as close as you guys said,why did Paulie look so dejected as soon as the fight ended and if there is only 1 round in it,Malignaggi will be shouting for a rematch won't he,becaus that was that close......

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Hold your horses Game, Im not attacking you so need to get so defensive. I know Cotto's your favourite fighter but calm down a sec.

This has nothing to do with "Hatton tinted" glasses, Im a huge fan of Cotto, I always pull for the guy and I believe always will unless he faces Hatton (patriotism).

If you watch the fight again, Paulie lands a lot. And judges count damage, workrate, accuracy, ring generalship, and effort among other fings in scoring a fight, three of which I would often have given to Maglinaggi (damage not in a million years of course). And Cotto REALLY went to sleep in the middle of the fight, and I mean rounds 4 through 9 he was on cruise control for some reason. When Cotto was smiling in his corner at one point (round ten I think) I figured he knew he had been coasting and his gameplan had been to let Maglinaggi tire and then knock his ass out. At this point I was still confident Cotto could stop Paulie, with Paulies visibility cut down and Cotto seemingly having more energy left. However, despite winning the final couple of rounds, but Cotto underestimated Maglinaggi and couldnt get rid of him.

I still believe Cotto won and believe he could beat Maglinaggi in an almost shut out now he would know how to handle him, it just seems he had the wrong gameplan, or was just too weigh drained.

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Originally Posted by The Game

To say 1 round....saying it was as close as Collazo and Hatton

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I didnt have it as close as Collazo and Hatton, I had that as a draw ;)

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Originally Posted by The Game

if it was as close as you say,1 round,then surely Paulie might have felt he won it?? Surely he'd ask for a rematch straight away?

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Why should he? Just because a fight was close, doesnt mean there should be a rematch. If it was a crowd pleaser or controversial, those mandate rematches. Winning a close fight, especially a unanimous decision doesnt mean you should have to give the other fighter a rematch.

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CC my friend,sorry if I sounded rude.See,we differ,Cotto did go to sleep but only for a couple of rounds and he was just blocking most of the shots coming his way..also, i dont think work rate is a factor if you are not landing,and Cotto was very very accurate,he did not land massive amounts but what he did...well you saw Paulie's face.As to your last point,you see the end,listen to everything Paulie's corner is telling him and tell me you still think it was close!

and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

as I said before


" ::** Cotto struggled. Harder blows to more cleaner crisp blows don't match up ;)

I think you're overrating Cotto's performance to be honest. He won the fight but in no way did he do it as easily as you're making it sound. And I think he would lose the rematch ;) Paulie's mistake was standing and trading after Cotto butted him. When he boxed he had your boy looking average at best.

Close fight but Cotto won. It was by no means as easy as you're making it sound. Kudos to Malignaggi for doing what he did considering what was against him.. and doing it with a broken jaw and nose ;)"

Why did Paulie look thew way he did after the 12th? because he knows he can do better. How's that :lickish:

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Originally Posted by The Game

and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

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And Cotto said that he never expected the fight to be that hard. He was smiling because he got through it ;)

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and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

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And Cotto said that he never expected the fight to be that hard. He was smiling because he got through it ;)

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That's just your interpretation and you saying Paulie would win a rematch is quite ridiculous,then again,must we go through all your infamous predictions based on absolutely nothing?? http://www.ufcfightnews.com/06-cotto.htm That article sums it up for me and I give you more links if you want.....

Malignaggi would win the rematch because he would do something different, Cotto wouldn't ;)

And Cotto said himself that he didn't expect the fight to be that hard. So your interpretation that he thought the fight was easy is much worse ;)

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Originally Posted by Starr

Malignaggi would win the rematch because he would do something different, Cotto wouldn't ;)

And Cotto said himself that he didn't expect the fight to be that hard. So your interpretation that he thought the fight was easy is much worse ;)

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Now you are making things up and obvioulsy he would not say it was easy and he could mean it was tough as in Paulie was tough to KO.

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Malignaggi would win the rematch because he would do something different, Cotto wouldn't ;)

And Cotto said himself that he didn't expect the fight to be that hard. So your interpretation that he thought the fight was easy is much worse ;)

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Now you are making things up and obvioulsy he would not say it was easy and he could mean it was tough as in Paulie was tough to KO.

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See you're assuming worse

See Cotto's comments here genius

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/chee/chee0611b06.htm

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he was happy with the decision genius ;) You can stop assuming now

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and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

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CC Back man, and true this could mean anything, I was only stating what I thought to convey how behind Cotto I still was even when I thought Malignaggi was winning on points.

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i dont think work rate is a factor if you are not landing,

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The classic phrase boxing judges use is they "reward the aggresor" or at least give him the benefit in the doubt with close rounds. Therefore even though not all of Malginaggis shots were clean, he was still through his enormous workrate mainting the attack which should be rewarded, especially when Cotto was not generating much.

I, like you, rate damage and accuracy more however, hence why I gave Cotto the last rounds. One thing with my scoring that may have affected it is I NEVER give 10-10 rounds as a rule. However last night there were many I could of scored like this, but instead I gave to Malignaggi. The rounds that Cotto won, Ill agree, he won by a clearer margin.


Your fighter came through in the end man, and against a fighter whos style was a complete mismatch, thats the mark of a true champion. I cant wait for Cotto, Hatton and Mayweather to start facing each other. Hopefully itll end up like the welterweights of yesteryear who all made a point of facing each other so often. I believe all would be great fights with Cotto Hatton being a barnstormer.

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Originally Posted by Starr

Malignaggi would win the rematch because he would do something different, Cotto wouldn't ;)

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Starr what do you have to base this on? Surely you arent going to tell us Cotto is one dimensional now?



























Or are you jus doing this for the sake of arguing? ;)

I just can Believe what I'm I'm reading here from alot of you here. Malignaggi was very Fast but Cotto Manage with that speed most of the super fast combinations that He threw hit Cotto' gloves you can tell that watching Cotto's face after the fight.

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Malignaggi would win the rematch because he would do something different, Cotto wouldn't ;)

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Starr what do you have to base this on? Surely you arent going to tell us Cotto is one dimensional now?

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Cotto fights the same every fight. No matter who he's fighting.

Still has the same openings he's always had.

I DO think he would lose the rematch against Malignaggi but I doubt there will be one.

Are you saying that when Malignaggi stepped back and boxed instead of trying to slug with Cotto that Miguel looked good ???

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Malignaggi would win the rematch because he would do something different, Cotto wouldn't ;)

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Starr what do you have to base this on? Surely you arent going to tell us Cotto is one dimensional now?

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Cotto fights the same every fight. No matter who he's fighting.

Still has the same openings he's always had.

I DO think he would lose the rematch against Malignaggi but I doubt there will be one.

Are you saying that when Malignaggi stepped back and boxed instead of trying to slug with Cotto that Miguel looked good ???

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No Im saying Malignaggi's blinding pace made him look good, thats why I gave him so many rounds, but Cotto got to him when he finally turned it up. If this was a 15 rounder Cotto would have either KO'd Malignaggi or won all 3 extra rounds IMO.

Maglianagii earned a new fan anyway, I love the guy, fast and flash and tough as nails!

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Malignaggi would win the rematch because he would do something different, Cotto wouldn't ;)

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Starr what do you have to base this on? Surely you arent going to tell us Cotto is one dimensional now?

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Cotto fights the same every fight. No matter who he's fighting.

Still has the same openings he's always had.

I DO think he would lose the rematch against Malignaggi but I doubt there will be one.

Are you saying that when Malignaggi stepped back and boxed instead of trying to slug with Cotto that Miguel looked good ???

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No Im saying Malignaggi's blinding pace made him look good, thats why I gave him so many rounds, but Cotto got to him when he finally turned it up. If this was a 15 rounder Cotto would have either KO'd Malignaggi or won all 3 extra rounds IMO.

Maglianagii earned a new fan anyway, I love the guy, fast and flash and tough as nails!

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Yes he is a tough fighter. And it wasn't like he got all the broken bones and stuff and went into a shell and just succumbed and gave up . Actually when he got all those broken bones he actually fought better and won rounds that surprised me.

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and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

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It's pretty obvious that you can't be objective here. Smiling because he thought it was easy? Any boxing fan knows that a boxer's smile is false bravado 99% of the time. He smiled because he wanted to give the impression that it was well under control. He knew and every impartial viewer knew he had to dig deep in the championship rounds to pull it out.

Remember when Prince Naseem used to grin like an idiot every time he was caught flush? It sure wasn't an indication that he was having an easy time of it. Even as a huge Cotto fan, you can admit that the guy is all business. Smiling is not something he does during a fight. When he does do it, something's not right.

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and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

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It's pretty obvious that you can't be objective here. Smiling because he thought it was easy? Any boxing fan knows that a boxer's smile is false bravado 99% of the time. He smiled because he wanted to give the impression that it was well under control. He knew and every impartial viewer knew he had to dig deep in the championship rounds to pull it out.

Remember when Prince Naseem used to grin like an idiot every time he was caught flush? It sure wasn't an indication that he was having an easy time of it. Even as a huge Cotto fan, you can admit that the guy is all business. Smiling is not something he does during a fight. When he does do it, something's not right.

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Like I said I'm done trying to convince him otherwise ::** He won't be objective when Cotto is involved ;)

:coolclick: for the effort wacko, to bad the site went down. Next time we have two fights like this at the same time hopefully we can find somebody to help you out. You don good thou!

All I know is that if Mali didn't hold on for dear life the last few rounds, he would have been knocked out. I give him credit for finishing the fight and being man enough to accept the loss without excuses. The fact that he said he didn't want a rematch right away and that he needs a few fights to gain more experience shows good character and sportsmanship which I didn't think he had. He gave Cotto his due and acknowledged he was out of his league a bit. That being said, it's funny how many guys bought into the hype and started thinking he was going to win. I'm glad Cotto punished him into submission like that after all the talking that was being done by Mali. Cotto proved alot to me last night as far as handling a slick and speedy boxer. Now I feel more comfortable with him fighting a wider variety of fighters.

I couldnt see the fight for other reasons yesterday ,but have just read what went from this post.
Reading Wackos take, IT sounded to me like Cotto was smashing Paulies head and its a wonder how paulie stood up for those rounds then Coto slacked off for one reason or an other and Paulie found a second wind and a hope by those easier rounds and picked it up in the last few and caught Cotto rethinking and tired.
Sounds like Paulie has heart but not the power or the proess to win a rematch.

Go Bernard !!! What can you say but, No 1.

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and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

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It's pretty obvious that you can't be objective here. Smiling because he thought it was easy? Any boxing fan knows that a boxer's smile is false bravado 99% of the time. He smiled because he wanted to give the impression that it was well under control. He knew and every impartial viewer knew he had to dig deep in the championship rounds to pull it out.

Remember when Prince Naseem used to grin like an idiot every time he was caught flush? It sure wasn't an indication that he was having an easy time of it. Even as a huge Cotto fan, you can admit that the guy is all business. Smiling is not something he does during a fight. When he does do it, something's not right.

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Like I said I'm done trying to convince him otherwise ::** He won't be objective when Cotto is involved ;)

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(Pro fights should be scored on the more telling hits first though ).
then work rate ,ring generalship ,heart etc etc and last of all hits that just land but dont do damage or change the pattern of the fight at that moment.
Im just wondering "IF" those are the taken standards ,would it change (your) perspective on the result at all ?
Sounds like if the fight was judged on amature standards of clean strikes only PAulie may have won it on more strikes then ??.

Wow...can't beleeive this. Malignaggi took a beating last night imo. He got pretty well destroyed actually. I give him tons of credit for fighting until the final bell, but his high spots were sparatic and few and far between. I had it 116-111 for Cotto. I really wouldn't have expected to find much argument here either. Kind of surprising.

And I was equally surprised at the Hopkins doubters before the fight and even though I was silent on the issue, I thought Hopkins would win. I really was never sold on Tarver...ever.

:coolclick: for the DRBR wacks!

its a shame the site crashed because i was itching to get on here and talk about b hops superb performance....

i knew he could do it and he made tarver look foolish in the process!!!! ;D

hopkins has gone out with the bang he wanted!!!!

excellent!!!

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and Cotto smiling could mean anything bro...maybe he found it easy etc etc.

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It's pretty obvious that you can't be objective here. Smiling because he thought it was easy? Any boxing fan knows that a boxer's smile is false bravado 99% of the time. He smiled because he wanted to give the impression that it was well under control. He knew and every impartial viewer knew he had to dig deep in the championship rounds to pull it out.

Remember when Prince Naseem used to grin like an idiot every time he was caught flush? It sure wasn't an indication that he was having an easy time of it. Even as a huge Cotto fan, you can admit that the guy is all business. Smiling is not something he does during a fight. When he does do it, something's not right.

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Like I said I'm done trying to convince him otherwise ::** He won't be objective when Cotto is involved ;)

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(Pro fights should be scored on the more telling hits first though ).
then work rate ,ring generalship ,heart etc etc and last of all hits that just land but dont do damage or change the pattern of the fight at that moment.
Im just wondering "IF" those are the taken standards ,would it change (your) perspective on the result at all ?
Sounds like if the fight was judged on amature standards of clean strikes only PAulie may have won it on more strikes then ??.

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I will tell you this much. I would bet money on Malignaggi if a rematch if it ever happened ;) Thats all. When Paulie tried to slug with Cotto was when he had trouble, but when he stepped back and boxed Cotto looked average at best and people are saying that Cotto was laying off Malignaggi but I seriously doubt that, he had no trouble moving in on Branco did he ;)

Tell you what, let a rematch happen, and when Malignaggi wins you'll be richer ;)

And FYI, Reggie Johnson when Roy fought him would have KICKED TARVERS ASS!!!

Hops didnt pay the sanctioning fees for the belts so i guess he is seriously retired. I just hope he stays retired cause theres no better way to go out. I dont think his family will allow him to fight anyway. There are no bigger goals to accomplish in the sport. Thats the pinnacle

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Wow...can't beleeive this. Malignaggi took a beating last night imo. He got pretty well destroyed actually. I give him tons of credit for fighting until the final bell, but his high spots were sparatic and few and far between. I had it 116-111 for Cotto. I really wouldn't have expected to find much argument here either. Kind of surprising.

And I was equally surprised at the Hopkins doubters before the fight and even though I was silent on the issue, I thought Hopkins would win. I really was never sold on Tarver...ever.

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CC,I don't believe it either bro,don't see what people are getting over excited about.Starr,I really can't be bothered to argue with you for arguments sake,your points,as per usual,have no vasis on either fact or relevance and Paulie was saying the same thing,Cotto fights 1 way,well,he didn't/couldn't do anything about it could he and second,I don't think you know enough about Miguel to say that,I mean,aren't you the one that said he does not counter(you definitely said that once),showing you have not seen alot of his earlier fights.
Yep,whoever said it,(can't remember)but Wack DRBD said it all,Cotto was smashing his head in! I'm no nuthugger,I was the first to say I was dissapponted by Miguel's showing against Torres,just because I am a fan of someone does not mean I'll let it cloud my judgement.

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All I know is that if Mali didn't hold on for dear life the last few rounds, he would have been knocked out. I give him credit for finishing the fight and being man enough to accept the loss without excuses. The fact that he said he didn't want a rematch right away and that he needs a few fights to gain more experience shows good character and sportsmanship which I didn't think he had. He gave Cotto his due and acknowledged he was out of his league a bit. That being said, it's funny how many guys bought into the hype and started thinking he was going to win. I'm glad Cotto punished him into submission like that after all the talking that was being done by Mali. Cotto proved alot to me last night as far as handling a slick and speedy boxer. Now I feel more comfortable with him fighting a wider variety of fighters.

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Excellent analysis and again,well pointed out,he did not ask for a rematch and acknoweldged he was out of his league,he would not hint/say things like that if the fight was as close as some of you suggest.CC. You can clearly clearly see Paile hardly touched Cotto's face because after the fight/post match press conference,Cotto had 1 mark,no matter how hard or soft someone hits,if they hit you alot,you get marked up,and as Cotto was not hit cleanly ofter,he was not marked up!!

After a long recovery over the weekend...I am proud to say that once again...in the predicitions...I was proven wrong.

Hopkins fought brilliantly & Tarver got his ass handed to him in supreme fashion.

When was the last time anyone had seen Tarver that fwocked up?!?!

Oh...we are also unsticky now. ;D

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Wow...can't beleeive this. Malignaggi took a beating last night imo. He got pretty well destroyed actually. I give him tons of credit for fighting until the final bell, but his high spots were sparatic and few and far between. I had it 116-111 for Cotto. I really wouldn't have expected to find much argument here either. Kind of surprising.

And I was equally surprised at the Hopkins doubters before the fight and even though I was silent on the issue, I thought Hopkins would win. I really was never sold on Tarver...ever.

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You're not the only one surprised, trust me.