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Re: Wacko's Drunken RBR of Barrera vs Marquez! Last minute help from superheavyrhun
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Re: Wacko's Drunken RBR of Barrera vs Marquez! Last minute help from superheavyrhun
Juan Manuel “Dinamita” Marquez (50 fights, 46 wins with 35 ko's, 3 losses, & 1 draw) vs. “the Baby Faced Assassin” Marco Antonio Barrera (68 fights, 63 wins with 42 ko's, & 4 losses) Round 8: Damn what a fight. Left hook by Barrera. This is a hell of a fight. Barrera is back in the game & Marquez is cut. Both men tentative. Marquez cracks him again & Barrera uppers him & they are both on queer street. Barrera clocks him again. Marquez is hurt. Barrera then hurts Marquez. Barrera very VERY calm. Marquez jabbing. Big right hand from Marquez & Barrera is hurt & then Barrera hammers him & Marquez is hurt!!! Damn!!! This is wha tISaid it woul dbe: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!! Marquez is hurt though. Better be carekul. Uppers from Marquez & then a left & Barrera cracks him back. Damn!!!! Marquez is nailing him…but he’s gotta be careul. Barrerea nails him with a combo & Marquez felt that & comes right back & hurts Barrera.
EVEN? Who the fwock knows?
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Re: Wacko's Drunken RBR of Barrera vs Marquez! Last minute help from superheavyrhun
Juan Manuel “Dinamita” Marquez (50 fights, 46 wins with 35 ko's, 3 losses, & 1 draw) vs. “the Baby Faced Assassin” Marco Antonio Barrera (68 fights, 63 wins with 42 ko's, & 4 losses) Round 9: My palms are sweating & I gotta take a shit. Marquez’s eye is closing but he’s still firing. Barrera lands a nice right hook. They are going for broke. Huge left & right from both men. Marquez is hurt. Marquez is just getting reckless. WTF?!?!?! Barrera hammers him hard. Marquez get’s right back on him. Left hook from Marquez. Nice. Both going for broke. :Marquez is gonna lose this fight. He’s fighting too hard. Left hook fmisses for Marquez & Barrera effectively counters. Right by Marquez. Upper by Barrerea.
Round to Barrera?
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Re: Wacko's Drunken RBR of Barrera vs Marquez! Last minute help from superheavyrhun
Juan Manuel “Dinamita” Marquez (50 fights, 46 wins with 35 ko's, 3 losses, & 1 draw) vs. “the Baby Faced Assassin” Marco Antonio Barrera (68 fights, 63 wins with 42 ko's, & 4 losses) Round 10: Wacko needs a vallium. Marquex frst on the exchange with the double jab. Big right hand by Marquez & Barrera comes alive. 86-84 Barrera but this is coming into a WAR!!! Countering is out the window. Barrera is now bleeding. Jab by Barrera. Body shotsb y Marquez & then Barrera goes back. Right hand by Marquez. Body shots by Marquez. Upper from Marquez & Marquez is picking up. Right hand by Marquez. Upper from Marquez again.Left hand from Marquez. Right hand from Barrera. Body shots by Marquez & then a straight left. Barerra misses on a combo. Left hook from Barrera. Marquez throwing & Barrera slipping. Right hand from Barrera hit the button. Right hand & then a left fro Marquez. Left from Barrera. Marquez moreeffeictive!!! Marquez cracked him with a left hook that cause dBarrera to turn away from it.
Round to Marquez.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken RBR of Barrera vs Marquez! Last minute help from superheavyrhun
Juan Manuel “Dinamita” Marquez (50 fights, 46 wins with 35 ko's, 3 losses, & 1 draw) vs. “the Baby Faced Assassin” Marco Antonio Barrera (68 fights, 63 wins with 42 ko's, & 4 losses) Round 11: Marquez comes out jabbing. That don’t last long. Barrera is backing out. Marquez to the body. Something Marquez hit bothered Barrera. Marquez jabbing & backing him up again. Marquez just nailed Barrera with a big left hook. Barrera is slowing now. Nice combo by Marquez. Marquez Hammered with a left. Barrera ties. Body shot by Barrera. Marquez stopped on that one. Nice exchange from both. Barrera swings & Marquez slips em. Nice shots to miss. Left hook from Barrera. Exchange a plenty from both men. Hammering it home!!!
Round to marquez.
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Re: Wacko's Drunken RBR of Barrera vs Marquez! Last minute help from superheavyrhun
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww….come the fuck on!!!!!
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Juan Manuel “Dinamita” Marquez (50 fights, 46 wins with 35 ko's, 3 losses, & 1 draw) vs. “the Baby Faced Assassin” Marco Antonio Barrera (68 fights, 63 wins with 42 ko's, & 4 losses) Round 12: Left hook from Marquez to start. Barrera is swinging wild. Marquesz now seems settled. Both men are bleeding. Nice left hook from Marquez. Barrera nice left hook. Double jab & then a right from Marquez. Barrera jabbing. Oinside left hook from Marquez. Barrera jabbing & Marquez cracks him. Left hook from Marquez. Rght from Barrera. Big left from Marquez & Bareera holds on. Nice. 1-2-3 from Barrera…weekly. Nice exchange. 3 punch combo from Marquez & Barrera uses his head. Clench. Right & then a left to the body by Marquez. Barrera holds. Big left from Barrera. Right from Marquez. Marquez bleeding & punching. Combo by both. Both men slug it out. Barrera with aright Marquez with a left!!!!
Fwockit!!!
I have no clue.
DRAW? Rematch? Whatever…that was amazing!!!!
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Re: Wacko's Drunken RBR of Barrera vs Marquez! Last minute help from superheavyrhun
That was a really REALLY close fight that demands a rematch...but Barrera didnt sount to interested.
That fight was gotdam amazing!!!! No shit. Marquez shocked the fwock outta me.
Came on at the end of that shit like a motherfwockier!!!!
:coolclick: s to all at on Sunday after I sober up.
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OMG wehat a fight, I was exhausted and thought I might drop off if it got quiet, but it was awesome!!! MArquez deserved to win, but I had him by two, or at most three rounds, not that BS judges scoring which they have turned up with the third big fight of the evening.
After round 7, and an awesome punch which kept Barrera in the fight, I reckon that my main memory of tonight is going to be never to trust the judges in Vegas. Are they on a one-way quest to embarrass themselves and the entire profession, because the D-Hop judgement was dodgy, I though Penalosa was much closer than the cards suggested, and that Barrera was much closer. It's silly really, cause it was a great night of boxing, and my main thoughts are about fu**ing judges instead of about great boxing bouts.
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WOW this is why im a boxing fan 8)
the margins were wide again but to be honest it was a bastard of a fight for them to score and i wouldn't have complained if Barrera had won or a draw.
Fight of the year well done to both.
i think Nady was bang on with the point deduction.. Barrera can be a cheating fucker sometimes so for me it serves himself right that he missed out on the KO for such a blatent foul.
but all in all if this is Barrera's last fight he has gone out fighting and has given me some fantastic entertainment over the years... ducked no one and deserves to retire as a great and count his money 8)
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I agree, the judging situation in Vegas really needs to be sorted out. Got up at 8 to watch this card (Its free on TV in Thailand ;D) but anyway some of the recent decisions really need to be sorted out. Hatton-Urango wasn't as far as they said it was. 3 fights on this card with grossly bloated score cards. Rabah-Urango ect...
This really needs to be sorted out its the type of thing that puts newcomers off boxing. I had Marquez by 2 rounds personally.
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Juan Manuel Marquez became a two-division champion, winning the world 130-pound championship from Marco Antonio Barrera via unanimous decision. The official scores were 116-111 (twice) and 118-109.
Didn't see the scores here, thought I'd post them.
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Im appalled by the judges. Absolutely sickened by the margins. :(
A great fight, a wonder to watch and that round 7 was one for the time capsules. That was clearly a knock down though and Nady must be insane to think otherwise. I have watched it repeatedly and cannot for the life of me determine why it wasnt a knock down!?! Barrera should not have hit Marquez for he was clearly down. The gloves, both gloves were on the canvas.
That was an extremely close fight and thought Barrera edged it, but I will need to watch again with a more relaxed frame of mind.
Again, I would like to reiterate that that margins in Marquez's favour were too wide. Capital punishment should be brought in for a jackadaisical judiciary!!!!! >:mad
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And why didnt Nady step in quicker after Marquez was felled in the 7th?! Barrera waited an age before throwing that uppercut!! :-\
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Yuur bowuy! CutmeMmICK is fee.,ing luvley right now hes been drinking some of theat happy juice 'Taquila' :lickish: and 2 of the BEST MEXICAN FIGHTERS just got down.... 8)
And regarldess of who you think won the fdight this is all I havtr to tell you.....
VIVA MEXICO CABRONESSSSSS!!!!
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You should be proud cutme ;)
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And why didnt Nady step in quicker after Marquez was felled in the 7th?! Barrera waited an age before throwing that uppercut!! :-\
in all fairness to Nady and i hate the fucker BUT he was on the blind side of the KO shot and he also had ahold of Barrera's arm when Barrera pulled it free and threw the shot.
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Yuur bowuy! CutmeMmICK is fee.,ing luvley right now hes been drinking some of theat happy juice 'Taquila' :lickish: and 2 of the BEST MEXICAN FIGHTERS just got down.... 8)
And regarldess of who you think won the fdight this is all I havtr to tell you.....
VIVA MEXICO CABRONESSSSSS!!!!
PATRON?
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Yuur bowuy! CutmeMmICK is fee.,ing luvley right now hes been drinking some of theat happy juice 'Taquila' :lickish: and 2 of the BEST MEXICAN FIGHTERS just got down.... 8)
And regarldess of who you think won the fdight this is all I havtr to tell you.....
VIVA MEXICO CABRONESSSSSS!!!!
PATRON?
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You should be proud cutme ;)
Man!! You know I'm an ErikMor ales fan and hies my boy!
BUT
i CAN;T helpt it and knood my head with a grin and say that MAB is a hard mutha fuckeR!!! man! he never backed down....
It's not the teuaqila talkin' it's the truth MAB showed tonight why hes a fwocjkentr legensd I can't help it but applaud MAB and give him props man what a career hes had and tonuight for once in a fight (other then when he faught Naz I was proiud of him) ragrdless of the facrt that I was rooting for JMM.....
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It's been a great year so far for the Marquez brothers
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It's been a great year so far for the Marquez brothers
Yeah!! man I just got my Sports Illustrated in Espanol and theres a 2 pg. story on them I read it this morning when I got up to cjhekc my mail box.....
It's in spanish I was thinking about scanning it and posting here and translating it it talks about thehit up bringings and how they began to box reallyu good read....
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El Gamos gonna shit! his pants watching this fight when he wakes up..... :o
The whoel day whe tlkaed back and forth of whbat a great fight thios was gonna be.....
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I had Forbes winning and he did not.
I had Penalosa winning and he did not (I thought Penalosa hit the defining shots the whole night. Most of the shots from PDL were caught by the gloves or arms of Penalosa. If it were an amateur fight, maybe PDL will win it because of work rate).
I had Marquez winning it and he did, but not by a mile.
If this is the way the judging goes with Golden Boy promotions, I hate to see the scoring in the OLDH Mayweather contest.
::** :-X ^-^ :(
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You should be proud cutme ;)
Man!! You know I'm an ErikMor ales fan and hies my boy!
BUT
i CAN;T helpt it and knood my head with a grin and say that MAB is a hard mutha f*****!!! man! he never backed down....
It's not the teuaqila talkin' it's the truth MAB showed tonight why hes a fwocjkentr legensd I can't help it but applaud MAB and give him props man what a career hes had and tonuight for once in a fight (other then when he faught Naz I was proiud of him) ragrdless of the facrt that I was rooting for JMM.....
the last time i drank that stuff was a shitload of shots on Holiday i was acting all big drinking it out of the bottle when the barman turned around.
i dont remember much after that... i was told by the wife that 3 different people carried me home, the bartender got me down stairs, a german guy carried me to the taxi and the hotel poter carried me back to my room hahahahha
aint touched the stuff since :-X
anyways great card by golden boy... one of the best ive seen for a loooonnngggg time 8)
Night guys ;)
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You should be proud cutme ;)
Man!! You know I'm an ErikMor ales fan and hies my boy!
BUT
i CAN;T helpt it and knood my head with a grin and say that MAB is a hard mutha f*****!!! man! he never backed down....
It's not the teuaqila talkin' it's the truth MAB showed tonight why hes a fwocjkentr legensd I can't help it but applaud MAB and give him props man what a career hes had and tonuight for once in a fight (other then when he faught Naz I was proiud of him) ragrdless of the facrt that I was rooting for JMM.....
the last time i drank that stuff was a shitload of shots on Holiday i was acting all big drinking it out of the bottle when the barman turned around.
i dont remember much after that... i was told by the wife that 3 different people carried me home, the bartender got me down stairs, a german guy carried me to the taxi and the hotel poter carried me back to my room hahahahha
aint touched the stuff since :-X
anyways great card by golden boy... one of the best ive seen for a loooonnngggg time 8)
Night guys ;)
Yeah! man!! Tequila will creep up on you from behind and catch up to you when you least expect it.....
Drinking it out of the bottle is a must.....
3 poeple to carry you ;D thats fwocjken classic...... They had to do the concert roll on you..... ;D
You know during concert s thaey carry the people over the top.....
Yea! all in all A GREAT night for boxing.....
About MAB I too think he knew what he was doiung when he threw thje punch what goes arounf comes aournd he in the end it bit him in the ass for doing that shit.....
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yo i called it son! i knew JMM was gonna take it. i said SD, but guess the judges wanted it to be a UD??? lol
now again only if metro golden and 80year old vampire can BESO y make up and make this long needed rematch go down!
hollaaaaaaar
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OMG wehat a fight, I was exhausted and thought I might drop off if it got quiet, but it was awesome!!! MArquez deserved to win, but I had him by two, or at most three rounds, not that BS judges scoring which they have turned up with the third big fight of the evening.
Agreed! Total barn burner from the get go. Love that cliché & this put it on point.
While the judges were fwocked…he still won or drew….whatever whoever wants to say…it was a close fight for even a fight fan to score…but those idiots had to have lollipops in there jaws.
Idiots. Still…didn’t take away from the fight.
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After round 7, and an awesome punch which kept Barrera in the fight, I reckon that my main memory of tonight is going to be never to trust the judges in Vegas. Are they on a one-way quest to embarrass themselves and the entire profession, because the D-Hop judgement was dodgy, I though Penalosa was much closer than the cards suggested, and that Barrera was much closer. It's silly really, cause it was a great night of boxing, and my main thoughts are about fu**ing judges instead of about great boxing bouts.
The judges in the Dhop fight were replacements & inexperienced. Nady’s a great ref…he was just in a bad POV if you ask me.
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WOW this is why im a boxing fan 8)
the margins were wide again but to be honest it was a B****** of a fight for them to score and i wouldn't have complained if Barrera had won or a draw.
Fight of the year well done to both.
i think Nady was bang on with the point deduction.. Barrera can be a cheating f***** sometimes so for me it serves himself right that he missed out on the KO for such a blatent foul.
but all in all if this is Barrera's last fight he has gone out fighting and has given me some fantastic entertainment over the years... ducked no one and deserves to retire as a great and count his money 8)
Agreed. THe point should have been taken. Barrera was wrong on the headshot.
Loved the fight. No shit...the drunken commentary should have shown that much. I loved it.
If that don't get FOTY...I'll pull a saddoboxing.com first & shove a gerbil up Mick's poop-chute! Scratch that...I'll pull a saddoboxing.com 500th & 51st & shove a gerbil up Mick's poop-chute!
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Yuur bowuy! CutmeMmICK is fee.,ing luvley right now hes been drinking some of theat happy juice 'Taquila' :lickish: and 2 of the BEST MEXICAN FIGHTERS three gerbils just got down.... 8)
FIXED FOR ME BWOY!!!!
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I told you guys that Jay Nady is a horrible ref!!!
Sincerely,
Zab Judah
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I was really rooting for JMM as he should have his moment years ago. MAB started really strong and I can't find out how JMM would respond as MAB's always a step ahead. But the Great Counter Puncher he is caught MAB with his right hand changed the fight in round 6 onwards. The knockdown I believe is legit and the scores should have been much much closer.
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Yuur bowuy! CutmeMmICK is fee.,ing luvley right now hes been drinking some of theat happy juice 'Taquila' :lickish: and 2 of the BEST MEXICAN FIGHTERS three gerbils just got down.... 8)
FIXED FOR ME BWOY!!!!
CC#2726 for my LU-LU-VER..... WackOff3205 What a FWOCKEN FIGHT./...... 8)
THATS NOT A GERIBIL THATS A RAT you dirty FACKA!!! :(
On aother note I gots me Pink belt on..... :lickish:
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I had Forbes winning and he did not.
I had Penalosa winning and he did not (I thought Penalosa hit the defining shots the whole night. Most of the shots from PDL were caught by the gloves or arms of Penalosa. If it were an amateur fight, maybe PDL will win it because of work rate).
I had Marquez winning it and he did, but not by a mile.
If this is the way the judging goes with Golden Boy promotions, I hate to see the scoring in the OLDH Mayweather contest.
::** :-X ^-^ :(
i agree, although i can see ponce de leon as the winner, a 120-108 and 119-109(x2) for him is too ridiculous.
penalosa not even getting a single round???
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I told you guys that Jay Nady is a horrible ref!!!
Sincerely,
Zab Judah
Pardon me mista Judah...could you take your grill out & speak a little slower...I couldn't quite understand ya what with all the metal from your teeffee's & that stool flying over head.
;D
Gotdam...that fight was amazing.
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Yuur bowuy! CutmeMmICK is fee.,ing luvley right now hes been drinking some of theat happy juice 'Taquila' :lickish: and 2 of the BEST MEXICAN FIGHTERS three gerbils just got down.... 8)
FIXED FOR ME BWOY!!!!
CC#2726 for my LU-LU-VER..... WackOff3205 What a FWOCKEN FIGHT./...... 8)
THATS NOT A GERIBIL THATS A RAT you dirty FACKA!!! :(
On aother note I gots me Pink belt on..... :lickish:
Damn your hide Mickey...Wacko loves ya!!! :coolclick:
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I told you guys that Jay Nady is a horrible ref!!!
Sincerely,
Zab Judah
Pardon me mista Judah...could you take your grill out & speak a little slower...I couldn't quite understand ya what with all the metal from your teeffee's & that stool flying over head.
;D
Gotdam...that fight was amazing.
Wack I've replayed the 7thffth roundd abiout 15 times....
What a fight man......
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Welp...looks like ole' Wacka's got his work cut out for him...time to update the P4P list. :-X
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El Gamos gonna shit! his pants watching this fight when he wakes up..... :o
The whoel day whe tlkaed back and forth of whbat a great fight thios was gonna be.....
I just shit my pants....that was an amazing amazing fight....Who says boxing is dead...we are 3 months into 07 and we have had:
Rafa Marquez v Vazquez,awesome fight.
JMM-MAB-ONE FOR THE TIME CAPSULE,BEAUTIFUL BOXING,AT HIGHEST LEVEL
and the WARRRR between Katsidis and Earl.
I'ts very rare for a fight to live up to its super high expectations but this one certainly did. I loved both fighters and didn't mind who won although I thought JMM had it by 1 or 2 points.However,there is no way MAB slips too far down P4P lists imo,he is a fwocking warrior and a great great fighter,one of the best of all time.
As for JMM,he FINALLY proved he belonged with the elite,most of his fans have believed him to be the equal of MAB,EM and Pac and now he has proved it.He was superb.His combinations in round 7 and onwards were phenomenal.
I'm not going to argue with anyone over who they thought the winner was,I'm just going to congratulate and applaud 2 great great fighters for an amazing amazing fight. And I'm waiting for my 1gig version to finish downloading so I can watch it again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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And I know we are all shouting for a rematch,myself included,I can't help but wonder that winner of a rematch won't have enough left in the tank for a Pacman fight. These types of fights,at this stage in their careers,is INCREDIBLY gruelling. Indeed,what if there is a trilogy? :o
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You k now after waychting the 7th round again for the 30th time now, why is everyone crying foul that Nady did not see the knockdown BUT no one is mentioning the fact that MAB could have been DQ'd for hitting JMM while he was down?
As I said I really thaought Nady was gonna DQ him, but once I saw him reach for Mabs hand I realised he was just gonna deduct the piont......
I mean if your gonna cry foul about the knockdown then lets also dish out the fact that MAB should have/could have been DQ'd....
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PicCtures of the fights from yahoosports.....
:)
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