It's just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Guzman vs Soto

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

11-0 Guzman

Wacko you have gave every round to Guz except one round if i have read it right ?? so how is a whitewash out of the question ??

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Because I gave him a round...a shut out to me is a shut out...but I appreciate you keeping track for me. ;) ;D

Guzman looked great...impressive as fwock...I picked him to win & like him as a fighter...but I didn't expect him to be that dominate.

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Yes some of the rounds were competitive but Guzman still won easily.

Alright youngins...it's been a great month of November so far...we've got one more coming...if you consider Mayorga vs Vargas a compelling match up...after that...it's on to what we've all been wanting for the better part of the last 3 to 4 years...

Floyd vs Hatton.

Everyone has been clicked & I thank ya once again for being a part of the DRBR. It's been my pleasure.

Time for Wacko to relax & watch a few flicks.

Cheers bitches...have a great remainder of yer weekends.

302 landed for Guzman 192 landed for Soto

44 percent for Guzman 22 percent for Soto



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216 landed for Guzman 143 landed for Soto.

I believe there the right numbers.

Wacko Guzman reminded me of Mayweather in some parts.

I had it 7-5 Guzman, like Lederman. Guzman would have won by a more lopsided decision on my card if he hadn't taken the last rounds off.

I picked Soto to win. I knew Guzman had more speed, but I didn't think the speed gap would be as wide as it turned out to be. Guzman was much much faster.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

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11-0 Guzman

Wacko you have gave every round to Guz except one round if i have read it right ?? so how is a whitewash out of the question ??

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Because I gave him a round...a shut out to me is a shut out...but I appreciate you keeping track for me. ;) ;D

Guzman looked great...impressive as fwock...I picked him to win & like him as a fighter...but I didn't expect him to be that dominate.

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Yes some of the rounds were competitive but Guzman still won easily.

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I didn't say that he didn't win easily...I just didn't see it as a shut out due to the fact that Soto was in the fight. For it to be a shut out...the other man has to be totally whiped out & for every round...you feel me?

I'll also add that I liked what I saw out of Mares on the undercard. Look forward to seeing him fight again soon. He certainly has a trainer who can get the most out of him.

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11-0 Guzman

Wacko you have gave every round to Guz except one round if i have read it right ?? so how is a whitewash out of the question ??

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Because I gave him a round...a shut out to me is a shut out...but I appreciate you keeping track for me. ;) ;D

Guzman looked great...impressive as fwock...I picked him to win & like him as a fighter...but I didn't expect him to be that dominate.

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Yes some of the rounds were competitive but Guzman still won easily.

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I didn't say that he didn't win easily...I just didn't see it as a shut out due to the fact that Soto was in the fight. For it to be a shut out...the other man has to be totally whiped out & for every round...you feel me?

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I meant shut out points wise Wacko Soto was competitive in some rounds i could of gave Soto atleast 3 of the close rounds.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Wacko Guzman reminded me of Mayweather in some parts.

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Yep. Me too.

Like father...like son...no matter how much either one of them deny it...junior learned that shit from senior.

Guzman is impressive as hell...& he's fast as fwock. The thing that reminds me of Floyd is the shoulder roll & the way he fires out of it...that & the defense is almost identical.

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Wacko Guzman reminded me of Mayweather in some parts.

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Yep. Me too.

Like father...like son...no matter how much either one of them deny it...junior learned that S*** from senior.

Guzman is impressive as hell...& he's fast as fwock. The thing that reminds me of Floyd is the shoulder roll & the way he fires out of it...that & the defense is almost identical.

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Yea totally agree and Guzman's movement was damn impressive he would be great on dancing with stars ;)

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10-0 Guzman

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wow ice, every round to guzman?

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Yep but like i said i could of gave Soto atleast 3 of the close rounds but it doesn't really matter Guzman won easily.

Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

Looks like I picked another loser ::** That makes me like 4-11 or something this year :-\ I didn't get to watch the fight as I PPV UFC, but it sounds like Soto/Guzman was an interesting fight; I'll catch it tomorrow for sure. I managed to pick all the UFC fights right though{I know, who cares ::**}. Thanks for the RBR Wacko, as I was keeping up with it while I was watching the OTHER sport ;D CC Wacko tomorrow as I gave you one today.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

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I'll watch it tommorow in better quality and then give you my scorecard remember i was watching it in a stream so it wasn't great quality by any means i could of easily gave Soto about 4 rounds.

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Wacko Guzman reminded me of Mayweather in some parts.

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I was thinking the same ... looks like he is a customer at the same bike shop. Fast, accurate, and knows how to use the ring to move away and control engagement.

Not as polished or commanding but Mayweatheresque nonetheless.

Re: Soto ... looked like he was trying to try, just didn't know how to do it. Guzman is a slippery customer.

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Looks like I picked another loser ::** That makes me like 4-11 or something this year :-\ I didn't get to watch the fight as I PPV UFC, but it sounds like Soto/Guzman was an interesting fight; I'll catch it tomorrow for sure. I managed to pick all the UFC fights right though{I know, who cares ::**}. Thanks for the RBR Wacko, as I was keeping up with it while I was watching the OTHER sport ;D CC Wacko tomorrow as I gave you one today.

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I been doing pretty good with my picks this year except for Cotto vs Mosley and Kessler vs Calzaghe but other than that its been pretty good year.

Notice how i didn't mention Pac vs Barrera 2 ;D

But i had been a fan of Barrera's for almost a decade so i was just going with one my favorite fighter's but i learnt my lesson in that one.

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Looks like I picked another loser ::** That makes me like 4-11 or something this year :-\ I didn't get to watch the fight as I PPV UFC, but it sounds like Soto/Guzman was an interesting fight; I'll catch it tomorrow for sure. I managed to pick all the UFC fights right though{I know, who cares ::**}. Thanks for the RBR Wacko, as I was keeping up with it while I was watching the OTHER sport ;D CC Wacko tomorrow as I gave you one today.

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I been doing pretty good with my picks this year except for Cotto vs Mosley and Kessler vs Calzaghe but other than that its been pretty good year.

Notice how i didn't mention Pac vs Barrera 2 ;D

But i had been a fan of Barrera's for almost a decade so i was just going with one my favorite fighter's but i learnt my lesson in that one.

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Yeah bro', me and you got a courtesy name change from the Pac/Barrera fight, compliments of Pacstraightleft. Oh well, wrong or right on predictions I don't care; as long as I have the fights to watch I'm happy. What happened to Pacstraightleft anyways?? Hope he's alright.

I only hope Pacstraightleft is alright so he can get his ass back on here and let me get revenge :)

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I only hope Pacstraightleft is alright so he can get his a** back on here and let me get revenge :)

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;D

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

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I'll watch it tommorow in better quality and then give you my scorecard remember i was watching it in a stream so it wasn't great quality by any means i could of easily gave Soto about 4 rounds.

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Take your 1st cc

Guzman Vs. Marquez anyone?
1st Marquez Vs.Pacquio 2

Sounds like two decent, if slightly one-sided fights, I should have stayed up but the superheavy is off the booze and saturday night tiredness put me down in the hay before 1am. Disgraceful I know.

As for this:.....

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For those of you that this might interest...there's a bit of a light show tonight & Sunday night...depending on where you are...

Peak activity for the Leonedis Shower

In the 2007 Observer's Handbook of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, meteor experts Margaret Campbell-Brown and Peter Brown indicate that this year's peak activity should occur on the night of Nov. 17-18. They cite 4:00 GMT Sunday, which corresponds to 11 p.m. ET and 8 p.m. PT on Saturday evening.

This is the moment when Earth will be passing closest to the orbit of the long-departed comet, and when our planet seemingly is most likely to encounter some residual comet material. This time is highly favorable for those in Europe and Africa. In contrast, for North American observers, Leo will still be below the horizon; they will have to wait until later in the night to catch the best view of the Leonids.

Should be some good S***.

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Unfortunately it is now winter in Europe, so there is no chance in hell we'll be seeing anything as the permanent dark haze of rain has settled in and will be around until about March. So if I look up in the sky to see something, all I'll get is an eyeful of dirty water.

Sounds like my boy Soto disappointed. I don't blame him though,from what I've read,Guzman potshotted and moved,Soto wasn't expecting that fight.Both have not won anything from this though.Soto has just become way too high risk,low reward for anyone to fight him and Guzman is going to have to wait for the winner of JMM-Manny which means more inactivity,fight Fana for a paprer title and little exposure or leave the States and fight Valero. I feel for them both.2 warriors.

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Sounds like my boy Soto disappointed. I don't blame him though,from what I've read,Guzman potshotted and moved,Soto wasn't expecting that fight.Both have not won anything from this though.Soto has just become way too high risk,low reward for anyone to fight him and Guzman is going to have to wait for the winner of JMM-Manny which means more inactivity,fight Fana for a paprer title and little exposure or leave the States and fight Valero. I feel for them both.2 warriors.

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Don't forget that he's got to fight Alex Arthur at some point because Arthur has the interim version of Guzman's world title. If they could schedule that in around the same time as JMM-Pacquiao (is it penned in for March?) then that would suit everyone for a summer super-fight. Yes, another super-fight. :P

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I only hope Pacstraightleft is alright so he can get his a** back on here and let me get revenge :)

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I'm really wondering where Pacstraight had gone. It's becoming lonely here without Pacstraight. hehehe. Could he be one of the victims in the forest fire in california?

Another correct prediction for me. So far, I have no incorrect prediction in the big league. I'm already excited with the Mayweather vs Hatton fight. I'm picking HAtton and if he loses to Mayweather this will be my first incorrect prediction in the superfights.

Honestly, I think Hatton's power will prevail.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

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I agree. Ice,I REALLY think you should leave the scoring to someone who can see the picture clearly/has better quality or wait until you have seen a good quality version of the fight. Relying on those streams for a score in unreliable.10 rounds to 2?!?! ???

Also,I CANNOT believe that Guzman rehydrated back to 148?!WTF?!He was almost 2 divisions bigger than Soto and couldn't hurt him?!Dam!

Wow,Guzman was impressive. You can see the similarities with Floyd Mayweather but a big difference was his ability to stand and trade with Soto.He was far more agressive than Mayweather has been for a LONG time.I've mentioned his shoulder roll before,it was superb tonight.

A Guzman-Pacman fight would be good,but if Guzman can defend like he did tonight,I think it's going to be a LONG night for Manny. Soto's punches are short,sharp and accurate.He is not slow either yet he looked slow v Guzman. 2 big weaknesses stood out for me from Guzman,somtimes he leaves himself WIIIIIIDE open when he is exchanging punches and he tends to slap with his right hand.He was very impressive though. Soto was game and has skills but was just outclassed by the better boxer. I hope he continues to fight,he'll get a title shot sooner or later,there are not many fighters at 130 as talented as Joan.

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Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

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I agree. Ice,I REALLY think you should leave the scoring to someone who can see the picture clearly/has better quality or wait until you have seen a good quality version of the fight. Relying on those streams for a score in unreliable.10 rounds to 2?!?! ???

Also,I CANNOT believe that Guzman rehydrated back to 148?!WTF?!He was almost 2 divisions bigger than Soto and couldn't hurt him?!Dam!

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Wacko scored it 11-1 aswell Gamo ;)

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Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

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I agree. Ice,I REALLY think you should leave the scoring to someone who can see the picture clearly/has better quality or wait until you have seen a good quality version of the fight. Relying on those streams for a score in unreliable.10 rounds to 2?!?! ???

Also,I CANNOT believe that Guzman rehydrated back to 148?!WTF?!He was almost 2 divisions bigger than Soto and couldn't hurt him?!Dam!

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It wouldn't have made a difference in this fight, but at what point does there need to be some rules about the amount of weight someone can add on after the weigh-in?

It's understandable for guys to add on some weight, but 18 pounds is outrageous. That was a 130 pound fight, and Guzman weighed as much in the ring as Mayweather did in a 154 pound fight against Oscar.

I don't think a 10 pound rehydration limit would be a bad idea. Maybe 12 pounds.

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Wacko Guzman reminded me of Mayweather in some parts.

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Yep. Me too.

Like father...like son...no matter how much either one of them deny it...junior learned that shit from senior.

Guzman is impressive as hell...& he's fast as fwock. The thing that reminds me of Floyd is the shoulder roll & the way he fires out of it...that & the defense is almost identical.

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Especially with his back against the ropes, using the shell and the rolls. I wouldn't mind seeing him move up to 135 or even 140. He clearly has the size to move. There are lots of fights for him if he is willing to move up. I would be interested to see him in against Juan Diaz.

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Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

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I agree. Ice,I REALLY think you should leave the scoring to someone who can see the picture clearly/has better quality or wait until you have seen a good quality version of the fight. Relying on those streams for a score in unreliable.10 rounds to 2?!?! ???

Also,I CANNOT believe that Guzman rehydrated back to 148?!WTF?!He was almost 2 divisions bigger than Soto and couldn't hurt him?!Dam!

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Wacko scored it 11-1 aswell Gamo ;)

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I wasn't talking about my man Wacko,although I strongly disagree with his scoreline,I was talking to you. ;) ::**

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Guzman won. But no way it was by such lopsided scores

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I agree. Ice,I REALLY think you should leave the scoring to someone who can see the picture clearly/has better quality or wait until you have seen a good quality version of the fight. Relying on those streams for a score in unreliable.10 rounds to 2?!?! ???

Also,I CANNOT believe that Guzman rehydrated back to 148?!WTF?!He was almost 2 divisions bigger than Soto and couldn't hurt him?!Dam!

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It wouldn't have made a difference in this fight, but at what point does there need to be some rules about the amount of weight someone can add on after the weigh-in?

It's understandable for guys to add on some weight, but 18 pounds is outrageous. That was a 130 pound fight, and Guzman weighed as much in the ring as Mayweather did in a 154 pound fight against Oscar.

I don't think a 10 pound rehydration limit would be a bad idea. Maybe 12 pounds.

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Even though rules like this would have led to possible punishment etc for one of my favourite fighters,Cotto,who hydrated to 155/56 for the Corley fight,I am in favour of it.10 pounds rehydration or go to another weight class. I recall Clottey weighing in at 170 or around that area for the Corrales fight if I remember correctly?! Even though that fight was stipulated for 149 or something stupid,that is RIDICULOUS!

Credit to Soto, I mean he did what he could do but Guzman was always a step ahead. Many fighter would have lost their cool against a showy guy like Guzman. Parts of the fight reminded me of Leonard-Duran 2 but Soto did his best not to show his frusturation. Guzman is really a gifted fighter, a lot of what he does cant be taught...Also credit as much as I hate to say it credit to Floyd Sr. cause he didnt change Guzmans style but he did looked sharper than he did vs. Barrios. He seemed to shake off the rust after round two.

What im saying is that Wacko watched it in good quality and still had the same score as me.

Soto won rouns 1,3,and 12. You could argue that 3 was even but he definately won 1 and 12.

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Credit to Soto, I mean he did what he could do but Guzman was always a step ahead. Many fighter would have lost their cool against a showy guy like Guzman. Parts of the fight reminded me of Leonard-Duran 2 but Soto did his best not to show his frusturation. Guzman is really a gifted fighter, a lot of what he does cant be taught...Also credit as much as I hate to say it credit to Floyd Sr. cause he didnt change Guzmans style but he did looked sharper than he did vs. Barrios. He seemed to shake off the rust after round two.

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Yup,Zorrita must be credited for sure,he never gave up although he did slow down in the middle rounds.He showed lots of heart and is still a good fighter imo but Guzman shined. It's a testament to his skills that his best performance came against the best opponent he has faced,and this is coming from someone who is not a huge fan. I respect him though.He looked ALOT sharper han he did v Barrios.

I don't think Guzman's performance made Manny Pacquiao want to fight him(I know OumaFan,Fesnter have been wanting to see this fight and I'm inclined to agree,I think Guzman/JMM/Juan Diaz all have good shots at beating Manny but especially Guzman due to this lateral movement,speed of foot and hand)_.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Soto won rouns 1,3,and 12. You could argue that 3 was even but he definately won 1 and 12.

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I though the first 2 could have gone either way,Guzman won the majority of the middle rounds but I had Soto winning the last 2/3 because all Guzman did was pose whereas Soto was forcing the action and landing the odd punch. I had it 7-5,at worse 8-4 for Guzman. Any less than that would have been giving ALL the close rounds to Guzman.

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Credit to Soto, I mean he did what he could do but Guzman was always a step ahead. Many fighter would have lost their cool against a showy guy like Guzman. Parts of the fight reminded me of Leonard-Duran 2 but Soto did his best not to show his frusturation. Guzman is really a gifted fighter, a lot of what he does cant be taught...Also credit as much as I hate to say it credit to Floyd Sr. cause he didnt change Guzmans style but he did looked sharper than he did vs. Barrios. He seemed to shake off the rust after round two.

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Yup,Zorrita must be credited for sure,he never gave up although he did slow down in the middle rounds.He showed lots of heart and is still a good fighter imo but Guzman shined. It's a testament to his skills that his best performance came against the best opponent he has faced,and this is coming from someone who is not a huge fan. I respect him though.He looked ALOT sharper han he did v Barrios.

I don't think Guzman's performance made Manny Pacquiao want to fight him(I know OumaFan,Fesnter have been wanting to see this fight and I'm inclined to agree,I think Guzman/JMM/Juan Diaz all have good shots at beating Manny but especially Guzman due to this lateral movement,speed of foot and hand)_.

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Soto won rouns 1,3,and 12. You could argue that 3 was even but he definately won 1 and 12.

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I though the first 2 could have gone either way,Guzman won the majority of the middle rounds but I had Soto winning the last 2/3 because all Guzman did was pose whereas Soto was forcing the action and landing the odd punch. I had it 7-5,at worse 8-4 for Guzman. Any less than that would have been giving ALL the close rounds to Guzman.

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I think that Soto being 135 and Guzman being 148 really effected Soto because he is used to being the bigger puncher. You could even hear the difference in the sound of their punches. Guzman was the bigger puncher last night and Soto could not easily hurt a 148 pound man even if he is a big puncher at 135. Plus because of the extra weight Guz took his punches better. Soto landed some nice right hands and Guzman didnt even flinch. If Guzman came in at 135 like Soto it may have been a very different fight, but I cant discredit Guzman because he made weight for the weigh in and didnt do anything wrong by being heavy on fight night.

Im on a bad roll of picks latley.I really think if soto went all out at proper distance and tempo things would have been much tighter.Fell into Guzmans Pace and could not cut off and neutralize movement/speed Of Guzman.
Joan deserves respect and I had Him winning but buy no means was this a white wash.Hit soto with tight and presice shots but never fazzed him.
I think In between all of that sliding and slipping he tends to catch plenty of punches.At times tries to duplicate that Floyd "pull back straight and One foot pivot" stuff.That 11th and 12th rnd Turn your back &scurry Is :(
With Paq and Marquez moving up and Barrera on way out(?),Guzman will chase the names and "big" fights but I honestly think hes in deep with them but he can also give some fits.
No doubt In my mind Soto will rebound and be right back in the mix.

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Credit to Soto, I mean he did what he could do but Guzman was always a step ahead. Many fighter would have lost their cool against a showy guy like Guzman. Parts of the fight reminded me of Leonard-Duran 2 but Soto did his best not to show his frusturation. Guzman is really a gifted fighter, a lot of what he does cant be taught...Also credit as much as I hate to say it credit to Floyd Sr. cause he didnt change Guzmans style but he did looked sharper than he did vs. Barrios. He seemed to shake off the rust after round two.

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Yup,Zorrita must be credited for sure,he never gave up although he did slow down in the middle rounds.He showed lots of heart and is still a good fighter imo but Guzman shined. It's a testament to his skills that his best performance came against the best opponent he has faced,and this is coming from someone who is not a huge fan. I respect him though.He looked ALOT sharper han he did v Barrios.

I don't think Guzman's performance made Manny Pacquiao want to fight him(I know OumaFan,Fesnter have been wanting to see this fight and I'm inclined to agree,I think Guzman/JMM/Juan Diaz all have good shots at beating Manny but especially Guzman due to this lateral movement,speed of foot and hand)_.

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Soto won rouns 1,3,and 12. You could argue that 3 was even but he definately won 1 and 12.

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I though the first 2 could have gone either way,Guzman won the majority of the middle rounds but I had Soto winning the last 2/3 because all Guzman did was pose whereas Soto was forcing the action and landing the odd punch. I had it 7-5,at worse 8-4 for Guzman. Any less than that would have been giving ALL the close rounds to Guzman.

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I think that Soto being 135 and Guzman being 148 really effected Soto because he is used to being the bigger puncher. You could even hear the difference in the sound of their punches. Guzman was the bigger puncher last night and Soto could not easily hurt a 148 pound man even if he is a big puncher at 135. Plus because of the extra weight Guz took his punches better. Soto landed some nice right hands and Guzman didnt even flinch. If Guzman came in at 135 like Soto it may have been a very different fight, but I cant discredit Guzman because he made weight for the weigh in and didnt do anything wrong by being heavy on fight night.

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CC,some fine points as per usual. I also thought the weight affected Soto,he's a big man at 130 and likes to impose his size and will on fighters.He could not do that against Guzman,because of the weight discrepancy. Guzman won though and as you said,he made weight so I musn't complain.

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Im on a bad roll of picks latley.I really think if soto went all out at proper distance and tempo things would have been much tighter.Fell into Guzmans Pace and could not cut off and neutralize movement/speed Of Guzman.
Joan deserves respect and I had Him winning but buy no means was this a white wash.Hit soto with tight and presice shots but never fazzed him.
I think In between all of that sliding and slipping he tends to catch plenty of punches.At times tries to duplicate that Floyd "pull back straight and One foot pivot" stuff.That 11th and 12th rnd Turn your back &scurry Is :(
With Paq and Marquez moving up and Barrera on way out(?),Guzman will chase the names and "big" fights but I honestly think hes in deep with them but he can also give some fits.
No doubt In my mind Soto will rebound and be right back in the mix.

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I agree with it not being a white wash,no fricking way/ I also agree that Guzman gave away the last 2 round due to his clowning around and he actually ran a couple of times but I won't hold it against him,I was HUGELY impressed with his performance. I have to disagree with 1 thing though,I think if he used movement like that,he woud give Manny and JMM a very tough fight.

I completely did not know that that fight was last night. Wow.

I've always felt Guzman to have elite talent and skill. He's just always injured or something or another. He's going to make anyone look bad at times and I felt that Soto was pretty much tailor made for him.

Thanks for the RBR, sounds like typical Guzman. I'll definitely have to watch this one.

Where you been Amat,have not seen you online for a while bro!