Abraham - Dirrell fight thread

The only reasonable decision would've been a technical draw/no decision. Dirrell absolutely faked it, but the that punch was still very stupid by AA. On the other hand, Dirrell headbutted AA and there were multiple low blows, even if biased people won't admit it.

To me it seemed like the ref protected Dirrell. After a low blow he said to him "Don't worry about it". And after Dirrell got knocked down, which was miraculously not counted as a KD, the ref suddenly felt like taking care of AA's cut.

There should be a rule against having a ref from the same country as one of the fighters, same with the judges.

Consider that I'm not biased either way, I like both fighters and I'm neither American nor German/Armenian.

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Wow, that was a bizarre ending. Man, Dirrell is literally like a woman, whining, crying,Let me breath man, Let me breath man"..... strange if you ask me. He just schooled AA fr almost 10 rounds. Sorry though man, after watching a few more replays, Dirrell absolutely faked that, no way was he knocked out. I think he was embarassd by his own bulshit then thats why he had to get out of there and not wanting to talk.... Just weird....

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It was absurd. Dirrell has athletic skills, but is a total woman. Abraham should really have pressured more early on. The cards would have been closer and the knockout would have come sooner. Froch had it half right in roughing him up, but you also need to not be complete garbage

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if abraham was more aggressive early on it wouldnt have worked in his favor

Let's agree on a couple of things
1) Abraham had to be D1'd for his offense
2) Cole is an absolutely attrocious official - missed 1 kd for Dirrell and 2 for Abraham, Tells Arthur I saw it about the low blows yet doesnt do anything, the cut was clearly caused by a headbutt where's video replay when you need it?
3) Dirrell put on a performance which would make Sandra Bullock blush with the "I got knocked out shananigans" (but in a way his crazy acting hurts him because he acted as if Abraham had legitimately KO'd him)
4) Can we do something about the RING PAINT I'm not at all condoning what Abraham did (refer to point #1) but Dirrell seemed to slip everytime Arthur went on the offensive

Now up for debate
I think Abraham would've finished him if it wasnt for the KD he was moving into the corners (as he was when the DQ happened) and had next to nothing left

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Originally Posted by Benserker

The only reasonable decision would've been a technical draw/no decision. Dirrell absolutely faked it, but the that punch was still very stupid by AA. On the other hand, Dirrell headbutted AA and there were multiple low blows, even if biased people won't admit it.

To me it seemed like the ref protected Dirrell. After a low blow he said to him "Don't worry about it". And after Dirrell got knocked down, which was miraculously not counted as a KD, the ref suddenly felt like taking care of AA's cut.

There should be a rule against having a ref from the same country as one of the fighters, same with the judges.

Consider that I'm not biased either way, I like both fighters and I'm neither American nor German/Armenian.

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the ref said 'dont wory about it' to abraham, he was telling him to stop complaining and defend himself


plus the ref didnt even know dirrels name, he kept calling him anthony

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Let's agree on a couple of things
1) Abraham had to be D1'd for his offense
2) Cole is an absolutely attrocious official - missed 1 kd for Dirrell and 2 for Abraham

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what second KD for abraham?
dirrel was on the floor the second time cuz he slipped on that logo again, abraham just happened to throw a jab that barely grazed dirrell as he fell

Cole's been like that since I last saw him. He's got poor judgement. Either because he's biased or not, but he's been a terrible ref every time I see him act like one. not trying to hijack the thread but i was just disappointed by the ref during this fight.

Cole is horrible. Shockingly enough though some Abraham fans forget that he blew a Dirrell KD too.

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The only reasonable decision would've been a technical draw/no decision. Dirrell absolutely faked it, but the that punch was still very stupid by AA. On the other hand, Dirrell headbutted AA and there were multiple low blows, even if biased people won't admit it.

To me it seemed like the ref protected Dirrell. After a low blow he said to him "Don't worry about it". And after Dirrell got knocked down, which was miraculously not counted as a KD, the ref suddenly felt like taking care of AA's cut.

There should be a rule against having a ref from the same country as one of the fighters, same with the judges.

Consider that I'm not biased either way, I like both fighters and I'm neither American nor German/Armenian.

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the ref said 'dont wory about it' to abraham, he was telling him to stop complaining and defend himself


plus the ref didnt even know dirrels name, he kept calling him anthony

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He looked at Dirrell when he said "Don't worry about it", if I remember correctly. All AA did to "complain" was tap his hip. Dirrell could've been respectful and apologize, but no, once he used this moment to punch AA.

its borderline embarrassing if you take out the word borderline.

cole kept calling dirrell anthony

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Originally Posted by Truth

Let's agree on a couple of things
1) Abraham had to be D1'd for his offense
2) Cole is an absolutely attrocious official - missed 1 kd for Dirrell and 2 for Abraham, Tells Arthur I saw it about the low blows yet doesnt do anything, the cut was clearly caused by a headbutt where's video replay when you need it?
3) Dirrell put on a performance which would make Sandra Bullock blush with the "I got knocked out shananigans" (but in a way his crazy acting hurts him because he acted as if Abraham had legitimately KO'd him)
4) Can we do something about the RING PAINT I'm not at all condoning what Abraham did (refer to point #1) but Dirrell seemed to slip everytime Arthur went on the offensive

Now up for debate
I think Abraham would've finished him if it wasnt for the KD he was moving into the corners (as he was when the DQ happened) and had next to nothing left

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We need to get the replay because I don't recall seeing a headbutt occur.

but I dirgress:

Why do people keep bringing up irrelevent points like the knockdowns and whether or not Dirrell was acting?

The DQ was deserved, acting or no -and- the knockdowns dont have much sway on the end result of that fight.... that is unless there was a 3 knockdown rule in effect and I just missed that part.

Lets see if Carl Froch can avoid getting knocked cold by Arthur like Taylor and Direll have been.

Abraham fucked it for himself by punching dirrel while down, definitely jacked up on his part, but then again I've seen fights not stopped over it before . As for Cole he is a shitfuck ref in general, said it before the fight, he's incompetent. Who knows what would have happened if abraham hadn't punched dirrel while down, maybe dirrel would have held on, or abraham could have legitimately gotten to him. I think the later...

@Sal the butcher
In my opinion the time where Dirrell slipped in the corner was a KD he was off balance and was hit by a shot whether it was the shot or his poor footwork that did the majority of the damage. Plus Direll seemed to be slipping everytime AA was on the offensice and as I said in the first point Abraham had to be Dq'd for his offence

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Lets see if Carl Froch can avoid getting knocked cold by Arthur like Taylor and Direll have been.

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Taylor got knocked out

abraham knocking out froch is surely going to be the highlight of the tournament

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Lets see if Carl Froch can avoid getting knocked cold by Arthur like Taylor and Direll have been.

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The DQ was deserved, acting or no -and- the knockdowns dont have much sway on the end result of that fight.... that is unless there was a 3 knockdown rule in effect and I just missed that part.

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If Dirrell didn't act as if it hurt him and just stood up, then there would've been no DQ. The ref let all the low blows slip, because they didn't really affect AA, so why not do the same with this, admittedly idiotic, punch.

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Also, I can't stress enough that I am not really biased. In fact, I usually root _against_ the German fighters, because I have a lot of German friends and when one of their fighters wins, I never hear the end of it ;) I thought Dirrell was ripped off in his last fight, so I kinda rooted for him a bit.

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Lets see if Carl Froch can avoid getting knocked cold by Arthur like Taylor and Direll have been.

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Was Direll out cold tonight? Acting or not he was laid out. Taylor was out aswel. Maybe Froch will be the 3rd guy to taste the power.

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The DQ was deserved, acting or no -and- the knockdowns dont have much sway on the end result of that fight.... that is unless there was a 3 knockdown rule in effect and I just missed that part.

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If Dirrell didn't act as if it hurt him and just stood up, then there would've been no DQ. The ref let all the low blows slip, because they didn't really affect AA, so why not do the same with this, admittedly idiotic, punch.

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Stop this BS right now.

He took a very good shot while he was down. If he got right up, he would just be woozy and off balance and end up getting KOd for real. What is so hard to understand about this?

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Lets see if Carl Froch can avoid getting knocked cold by Arthur like Taylor and Direll have been.

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Was Direll out cold tonight? Acting or not he was laid out. Taylor was out aswel. Maybe Froch will be the 3rd guy to taste the power.

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Laid out by a punch that didnt count.... therefore rendering the whole comparison as just wrong.

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The DQ was deserved, acting or no -and- the knockdowns dont have much sway on the end result of that fight.... that is unless there was a 3 knockdown rule in effect and I just missed that part.

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If Dirrell didn't act as if it hurt him and just stood up, then there would've been no DQ. The ref let all the low blows slip, because they didn't really affect AA, so why not do the same with this, admittedly idiotic, punch.

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Stop this BS right now.

He took a very good shot while he was down. If he got right up, he would just be woozy and off balance and end up getting KOd for real. What is so hard to understand about this?

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Ref could've given him a break, like he did when he attended AA's cut ...
If, like many people say, including me, Dirrell _did_ fake, then he wasn't really hurt, so there would've been no woozyness either.

edit: Anyways, Dirrell does deserve the win, he was the better fighter for 10 rounds, but I'm still upset over the outcome. I think AA will be a better boxer after this and if they'd have a second fight, he would knock Dirrell out.

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If Dirrell didn't act as if it hurt him and just stood up, then there would've been no DQ. The ref let all the low blows slip, because they didn't really affect AA, so why not do the same with this, admittedly idiotic, punch.

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Stop this BS right now.

He took a very good shot while he was down. If he got right up, he would just be woozy and off balance and end up getting KOd for real. What is so hard to understand about this?

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Ref could've given him a break, like he did when he attended AA's cut ...
If, like many people say, including me, Dirrell _did_ fake, then he wasn't really hurt, so there would've been no woozyness either.

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Did you see the shot? (rhetorical question here)
It was a very good shot, which Im pretty sure totally took Dirrell out of any game plan he would have had left at that point. The only thing he could have done after getting back up, is very likely just get KOd.

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If Dirrell didn't act as if it hurt him and just stood up, then there would've been no DQ. The ref let all the low blows slip, because they didn't really affect AA, so why not do the same with this, admittedly idiotic, punch.

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Stop this BS right now.

He took a very good shot while he was down. If he got right up, he would just be woozy and off balance and end up getting KOd for real. What is so hard to understand about this?

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Ref could've given him a break, like he did when he attended AA's cut ...
If, like many people say, including me, Dirrell _did_ fake, then he wasn't really hurt, so there would've been no woozyness either.

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LOL

NinjaSpy first rule of the forum is logic is unfortunately not that prevalent.

If Dirrell wouldn't have acted AA might have indeed gotten away with only a point deduction,but if you make an intentional foul you have to reckon with being disqualified...anyway I think AA was getting to Dirrell and may have been able to force the knock out and Dirrell was feeling it too and thats why he did what he did...

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Was Direll out cold tonight? Acting or not he was laid out. Taylor was out aswel. Maybe Froch will be the 3rd guy to taste the power.

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Laid out by a punch that didnt count.... therefore rendering the whole comparison as just wrong.

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The fact is everyone Arthur has faced in super 6 so far has ended up knocked out cold.

Abraham is the one to blame for the way the fight ended whether you think Dirrell was going to win or Abraham on TKO....

You just cant hit someone when they are down, its not like Art hit Andre when he just went down, say on the end of a combination, there were a few seconds that went by where Arthur was just standing above Dirrell and than he just threw a punch out of no where.

Just a crappy way for a good fight to end for both guys....and us fans as well....

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If Dirrell wouldn't have acted AA might have indeed gotten away with only a point deduction,but if you make an intentional foul you have to reckon with being disqualified...anyway I think AA was getting to Dirrell and may have been able to force the knock out and Dirrell was feeling it too and thats why he did what he did...

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You see, now we are just going in circles.

You said it best sir. Sigh. Im tired now. Going to sleep.

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Was Direll out cold tonight? Acting or not he was laid out. Taylor was out aswel. Maybe Froch will be the 3rd guy to taste the power.

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Laid out by a punch that didnt count.... therefore rendering the whole comparison as just wrong.

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The fact is everyone Arthur has faced in super 6 so far has ended up knocked out cold.

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I expect him to get the hat trick against Froch, he won't be nearly as hard to hit as Dirrell was. You've got to hand it to Abraham and his power punches though, to see it once against Taylor is impressive but it's rare you see somebody win two fights in a row with stunning one punch knockouts.

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Laid out by a punch that didnt count.... therefore rendering the whole comparison as just wrong.

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The fact is everyone Arthur has faced in super 6 so far has ended up knocked out cold.

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I expect him to get the hat trick against Froch, he won't be nearly as hard to hit as Dirrell was. You've got to hand it to Abraham and his power punches though, to see it once against Taylor is impressive but it's rare you see somebody win two fights in a row with stunning one punch knockouts.

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3 fights in a row. He put Orals lights out aswel.

The Froch fight isnt in Amercia either so Arthur wont have to worry about another corrupt night of officiating.

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Stop this BS right now.

He took a very good shot while he was down. If he got right up, he would just be woozy and off balance and end up getting KOd for real. What is so hard to understand about this?

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Ref could've given him a break, like he did when he attended AA's cut ...
If, like many people say, including me, Dirrell _did_ fake, then he wasn't really hurt, so there would've been no woozyness either.

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LOL

NinjaSpy first rule of the forum is logic is unfortunately not that prevalent.

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Second rule in every forum is that replies that don't contribute _at all_ are still worse :)

Anyways, AA made a very bad decision by throwing that punch and the referee is an idiot.

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Ref could've given him a break, like he did when he attended AA's cut ...
If, like many people say, including me, Dirrell _did_ fake, then he wasn't really hurt, so there would've been no woozyness either.

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LOL

NinjaSpy first rule of the forum is logic is unfortunately not that prevalent.

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Second rule in every forum is that replies that don't contribute _at all_ are still worse :)

Anyways, AA made a very bad decision by throwing that punch and the referee is an idiot.

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Very well said, sir. ;)

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The fact is everyone Arthur has faced in super 6 so far has ended up knocked out cold.

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I expect him to get the hat trick against Froch, he won't be nearly as hard to hit as Dirrell was. You've got to hand it to Abraham and his power punches though, to see it once against Taylor is impressive but it's rare you see somebody win two fights in a row with stunning one punch knockouts.

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3 fights in a row. He put Orals lights out aswel.

The Froch fight isnt in Amercia either so Arthur wont have to worry about another corrupt night of officiating.

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I forgot about that one. That was the best of the three. If he gets Froch the same way it'll be a Super Six hat trick and four in a row. :)

Ah hell I missed the whole thing I had to cover some local show

On first watch I thought he was 'doing a Griffin' - it was the delayed reaction to the punch, it seemed calculated to me, because Abraham was starting to find him with more frequency.

The other thing is that the punch didn't seem that hard, firm yes, but not a really devastating punch - and make no mistake, Dirrell had taken some harder shots during the fight than the one Abraham hit him with when he was down.

All said - I can't argue with the DQ, Abraham is a moron. You can't hit a guy when he was down. Acting or not, doesn't matter - Abraham broke the rules.

I think the MOST bizarre thing to come out of that fight was the display by the doctor - was it his first ever fight??:-\

You don't treat the cut, dickhead, you wipe the fucking blood away and tell us if he's ok to go. Abraham got about 30 seconds of treatment on his cut, and Cole had to tell that guy twice - "You're just supposed to look at it." What the fuck is going on in Michigan?

Seriously, the sport of boxing never fails to find new ways to amaze me.

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On first watch I thought he was 'doing a Griffin' - it was the delayed reaction to the punch, it seemed calculated to me, because Abraham was starting to find him with more frequency.

The other thing is that the punch didn't seem that hard, firm yes, but not a really devastating punch - and make no mistake, Dirrell had taken some harder shots during the fight than the one Abraham hit him with when he was down.

All said - I can't argue with the DQ, Abraham is a moron. You can't hit a guy when he was down. Acting or not, doesn't matter - Abraham broke the rules.

I think the MOST bizarre thing to come out of that fight was the display by the doctor - was it his first ever fight??:-\

You don't treat the cut, dickhead, you wipe the fucking blood away and tell us if he's ok to go. Abraham got about 30 seconds of treatment on his cut, and Cole had to tell that guy twice - "You're just supposed to look at it." What the fuck is going on in Michigan?

Seriously, the sport of boxing never fails to find new ways to amaze me.

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He was even putting pressure on the cut. I mean wtf was that about. Clearly ineptness on the part of the officials. I agree on a previous poster saying this fight was truly embarrassing. Shame this could have been a good barnstormer if more "able" officials were on hand. Truly disappointed.

I honestly can't believe how many stupid people there are on this forum. I'm a big fan of Abraham, but he deserved the DQ. I can't believe anyone thinks Dirrell was faking... Jesus fucking Christ.
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Seconded.

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I honestly can't believe how many stupid people there are on this forum. I'm a big fan of Abraham, but he deserved the DQ. I can't believe anyone thinks Dirrell was faking... Jesus fucking Christ.
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I was just about to post the same thing, minus being a big fan of AA. Just cause everyones picks at the Super 6 are wilting :) Dirrell was dominating the fight. I gave AA 2 rounds, dont think anyone could have given him more than 3. The King is exposed.

On a side now I will go for a swim since I filled my e-pool with all my e-cash from the Dirrell victory. (don't ask about the maidana/cayo bet)