At this point Maidana although Maidana is nothing special. His performance against Khan was incredibly frustrating (throw a fucking lead right hand) and he was lucky to get the win over Morales.
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At this point Maidana although Maidana is nothing special. His performance against Khan was incredibly frustrating (throw a fucking lead right hand) and he was lucky to get the win over Morales.
I agree with this, Judah, isn't and never has been on the same level as Bradley, and if Khan really believes that he's going to have a rude awakening if he ever gets in the ring with Bradley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The Bradley-Khan fight needs to get put together ASAP.
I'd like to see Bradley take on Maidana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI agree with this, Judah, isn't and never has been on the same level as Bradley, and if Khan really believes that he's going to have a rude awakening if he ever gets in the ring with Bradley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
The Bradley-Khan fight needs to get put together ASAP.
don't you say that, don't you fucking well say that - I swear I will ban anyone here who puts him on a p4p list!Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Even McCullough says zab quit!
I dont know, but obviously he's not as quick as he was now he's 33? He just didn't do very much, couple of times he threw a double jab, head/body pushed Khan back then just stopped, waited for Khan to come forward and then backed off looking to counter again. It was pretty annoying :-\.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Khan is clearly faster than Alexander, and Devon doesn't have his heart in the sport IMO (at the least he doesn't have the same kind of determination that Bradley does).Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHBradley's well-rounded, but I don't think he has the tools to trouble Khan.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFanEh, I think Alexander has reached the highest levels he'll reach. Khan would have nothing to worry about against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI think Alexander or Mathssye would be the biggest threats to Khan at 140, though I don't think either beats him.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Aside from his determination, I don't see anything in Bradley that would trouble Khan - he's not exceptionally fast, he doesn't hit hard, and he has leaky defense. Khan would walk him into punches all night.
I agree that style wise Bradley could have some problems with Khan because he doesn't have big power but he wouldn't put in a non-effort like Judah did and like Devon would and I don't think he has leaky defense. I would pick Khan over Bradley but some guys Khan would have trouble with (Maidana, Matthyssee) Bradley would school horribly. He's a more complete fighter IMO.
Alexander is a fast boxer who I think could match Khan's handspeed and hit him with shots he doesn't see coming. While he would rightfully be a huge dog, Matthysse, from what I've seen, has the type of timing and power that could beat Khan.
I don't think anyone at 140 beats Khan though. He's only going to get better.
The big problem with Bradley against Khan is his lack of power. I think he's the better fighter but the styles match up well for Khan and I'd pick him at this point.
Zab looked like garbage. Khan looked sharp but he needs to watch the damn headbutts.
I think you could make an argument in favor of him being in the top 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missydon't you say that, don't you fucking well say that - I swear I will ban anyone here who puts him on a p4p list!Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Even McCullough says zab quit!
I don't know if I'd put him on my list, but is incredibly skilled.
He just sent me a PM saying that again. Ban himQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missydon't you say that, don't you fucking well say that - I swear I will ban anyone here who puts him on a p4p list!Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Even McCullough says zab quit!
I wouldn't read to much into Khan's performance tonight, this was after all, Zab "I've never beaten an elite level fighter" Judah.
G'night all, too bad we didn't get to see a better fight. :-\
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Originally Posted by Hunter
thats exactly what i thought!!!! maidana was a monster compared to zab.
i was like "whaaaaaatttttt?" lol
Wide Shoulders are begotten, not got ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
What a waste of £15 that was. Credit to Khan he did his job he to good in every department, the ko shot was on the low side but it wasnt as bad as Judah made out. Judah looked in great shape but didnt turn up to fight and wanted away out of the fight.
Not looking forward to a Khan - Morales fight if it happens.Khan is to big and fast for him although Morales would at least make a fight of it, Khan stops Morales in 7 my prediction.
You wanted a right uppercut right? ;D :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseHe just sent me a PM saying that again. Ban himQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missydon't you say that, don't you fucking well say that - I swear I will ban anyone here who puts him on a p4p list!Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
Even McCullough says zab quit!
Aha! It would appear to be the WBA Super belt, I didn't know it looked like that!?Quote:
Originally Posted by GuyIncognito76
I suppose they had to tart the pointless trinket up a little.
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2...1311478636.jpg
Guys, I haven't read this thread, but what is the consensus on the winning punch? I don't care where his belt was, that punch clearly hit him on the stomach - great refereeing!!
I don't believe the punch touched one of Zab's tiny little gonads, it landed on his right side and caught mostly stomach, hip, abdomen, but no cojones.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
No controversy at all, Zab was looking for a way out, like he does when things aren't going his way, and he quit like the little bitch/douche he is, plain and simple.
Khan, dominated every round, did what he needed to do in this fight, and won fair and square, good job by him.
Agreed. I've been critical of Khan - well mainly of his defense and chin, but he is winning me over. His hand speed is awesome and he is starting to correct all his weaknesses. If his chin holds up, now he is moving up weights and is more comfortable it could be very interesting to see what he achieves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI don't believe the punch touched one of Zab's tiny little gonads, it landed on his right side and caught mostly stomach, hip, abdomen, but no cojones.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
No controversy at all, Zab was looking for a way out, like he does when things aren't going his way, and he quit like the little bitch/douche he is, plain and simple.
Khan, dominated every round, did what he needed to do in this fight, and won fair and square, good job by him.
some gentlemen are quite sensitive round that area of stomach, cojones getting tickled or not.:-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axI don't believe the punch touched one of Zab's tiny little gonads, it landed on his right side and caught mostly stomach, hip, abdomen, but no cojones.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
No controversy at all, Zab was looking for a way out, like he does when things aren't going his way, and he quit like the little bitch/douche he is, plain and simple.
Khan, dominated every round, did what he needed to do in this fight, and won fair and square, good job by him.
Judah was never in the fight, he lost every round and lost them badly. The punch from Khan was legitimate, it was on the belt line and cup, i'm wondering why it hurt Zab so much at all? No way it got his balls! (Khan is no Hatton) Judah was looking for a way out of this fight and a reason for it. His performance was sub par and Whitaker's message just didn't get across to the mentally challenged Zab Judah. " Get down low and come up to the body" Whitaker yelled at him, you could've told Zab that the world really is round and he wouldn't believe you. Khan was impressive, but in reality Judah was well below world class in this fight. He's done.
Man, that fight was tough to watch. The damage Khan's punches inflicted to Zab's pride and mentality was devastating. When Amir started landing his triple jab combination with no answer, that's when I realized the true nature of this fight. No competition at all. Unfortunately, I think Zab is too old of a dog to learn any new tricks from Pernell. Maybe they just need some more time to adjust to each other (imo, Zab doesn't need a more versatile Pernell left, he needs a tougher Pernell mind) If his glass heart is still resilient enough to pick up the pieces, I'd like to see him fight again. Dude deserves to go out with some dignity.
As for Khan, he definitely showed why he is in the top tier and is improving physically and mentally(someone could have passed him a pipe, he was so calm in that corner). Still want to see him get tested against the prime fighter in Bradley; only then will we know if Khan is a champion or a reigning king of the division.