Am I right in thinking that Bute has a rematch clause in the contract? Even in Canada I wouldn't think Bute would fancy it.
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Am I right in thinking that Bute has a rematch clause in the contract? Even in Canada I wouldn't think Bute would fancy it.
Froch looked better then I can ever recall seeing him look, he was in control almost the entire fight. His game plan must have been to go after Bute who had no answer for it. By the end of the 3rd round, the fight was just about over, by the 5th round Bute was toast.
Great performance by Froch, and another Super-middleweight title. Maybe that sack of shit, the SOG, will man up and give Carl a rematch in the UK. If Froch fights the way he did tonight, I like his chances against Ward in part II.
BTW, good job by Carl of proving all us "experts" who picked Bute (like me) wrong, you never can tell what's in a man's heart, or the fight that's left in the dog. :)
He does have a rematch clause but don't think hell excercise it anytime soon if ever...he'd do good for a minute of a round and then its as if froch said fuck it n battered him for second half of every round, don't know how bute could improve...Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Bute was really looking for that counter left hand, and i thought early that he might land it, the way Froch was coming in. Got it twice at the end of the first, but nothing else. He really didn't seem to have an answer for a guy that came to win, brought the fight to him, and didn't let him pick his spots.
Yeah, but what's left for Bute other then a rematch in Canada? At this point, it's pretty much his main option, and he came back well from what was basically a loss to Andrade and KO'd him in the rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I believe Bute underestimated Froch and gave him an advantage fighting him at home, a rematch in Montreal would be interesting.
It was the type of fight that brings new people to the sport. A modern classic. Spectacle and excitement and proving the naysayers wrong. From a British point of view, absolutely top drawer. Legend.
Aren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
If it was a fairly close fight then I think his people would be champing at the bit to take a rematch. However, if they see it like I do, that is Bute would get battered in front of his home crowd in a similar fashion, then I would look at all other options before committing to a rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axYeah, but what's left for Bute other then a rematch in Canada? At this point, it's pretty much his main option, and he came back well from what was basically a loss to Andrade and KO'd him in the rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I believe Bute underestimated Froch and gave him an advantage fighting him at home, a rematch in Montreal would be interesting.
He'll go back to fighting a motley collection of cab-drivers, nobodies, and faded former champs in no time while Froch will go on to beat Kessler (again) and lose to Ward (again).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_axYeah, but what's left for Bute other then a rematch in Canada? At this point, it's pretty much his main option, and he came back well from what was basically a loss to Andrade and KO'd him in the rematch.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I believe Bute underestimated Froch and gave him an advantage fighting him at home, a rematch in Montreal would be interesting.
Thanks bud. I really didn't envision Froch literally steamrolling him. The momentum is diffcult to retain once a guy refuses to let things settle down. Do wonder if they'll rematch though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel BoogustusBute was showing some southpaw slick head movement and a glimpse of the left hand but Froch was so damned determined to impose himself with right hands that would make Jim Lampley loose his voice, he just took over the fight from round 3 buzzing Bute almost at will, Bute was all over the place from round 4 and just out on his feet in the 5th. Cracking fight ,so proud of Froch!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
How many times has Froch been champion now? He keeps losing it then winning a world title back.
Is this the third or fourth time? He's carving himself into legendry status for sure, against many, many doubters.
He has such an odd looking technique and will lose against any pure boxers every time, but anyone who wants to have a war, he'll give them one hell of a fight.
The problem with Froch vs Kessler is that they are both very similar. It's always going to be a close, but brilliant scrap. I couldn't split them last time, so many rounds where they beat each other up equally, it was just a matter of opinion. I've watched that fight so many times now and each time I just cannot decide who to give rounds too.
I'd love to see Froch vs Martinez. Froch could drop weight easy, he looked a weight class lower than Bute I thought tonight. So much so, when they walked to the ring and then when they started the fight, I was worried he would get bullied.
I'd happily watch Bute vs Froch 2, in Canada. If its anything like this one, I'd be very happy.
For the first 2 and a half rounds, it was a brilliant scrap. The whole fight was brilliant, but in the early rounds they were both landing and blocking with they faces.
Not always. From a British point of view it was a classic performance and in the wider international Boxing sense it was a perfectly executed example of what makes this noble art so exciting, visceral and unpredictable. Classics do not have to be perfectly matched 12 round tit for tat wars. Some times one sided beat downs are worthy of the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
It was very competitive for most the fight, they were both landing, just Froch was doing more damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Until the KO, I was still expecting Bute to land a massive shot and wobble Froch at any moment.
I disagree entirely. I can't think of a single one-sided beating that I would consider a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzNot always. From a British point of view it was a classic performance and in the wider international Boxing sense it was a perfectly executed example of what makes this noble art so exciting, visceral and unpredictable. Classics do not have to be perfectly matched 12 round tit for tat wars. Some times one sided beat downs are worthy of the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Bute had a couple of moments where he caught Froch with counters, but I can think of only one exchange where he actually got the better of Froch. For the most part, it was total domination.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0It was very competitive for most the fight, they were both landing, just Froch was doing more damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Until the KO, I was still expecting Bute to land a massive shot and wobble Froch at any moment.
I just got back from the fight and some comments....Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHBute had a couple of moments where he caught Froch with counters, but I can think of only one exchange where he actually got the better of Froch. For the most part, it was total domination.Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0It was very competitive for most the fight, they were both landing, just Froch was doing more damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Until the KO, I was still expecting Bute to land a massive shot and wobble Froch at any moment.
Bute didnt do shit but twitch.
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Froch steam rollered him but his technique is still horrendous...
Bute didnt do shit but twitch...
How Froch continues to win is just odd.
I'm from Nottingham and support Froch to the fullest... but I dont understand... at all...how he winsQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHI disagree entirely. I can't think of a single one-sided beating that I would consider a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzNot always. From a British point of view it was a classic performance and in the wider international Boxing sense it was a perfectly executed example of what makes this noble art so exciting, visceral and unpredictable. Classics do not have to be perfectly matched 12 round tit for tat wars. Some times one sided beat downs are worthy of the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
I agree with Greenbeanz. A classic can also be an underdog upsetting the odds and smashing their opponent up. Calzaghe/Lazy will always be a classic in that regard. This one should be considered one too. It was intense, exciting and had everyone on their feet. That's a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI disagree entirely. I can't think of a single one-sided beating that I would consider a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzNot always. From a British point of view it was a classic performance and in the wider international Boxing sense it was a perfectly executed example of what makes this noble art so exciting, visceral and unpredictable. Classics do not have to be perfectly matched 12 round tit for tat wars. Some times one sided beat downs are worthy of the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
I didn't get any of that where I was... It was more a sense of bewilderment around me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI agree with Greenbeanz. A classic can also be an underdog upsetting the odds and smashing their opponent up. Calzaghe/Lazy will always be a classic in that regard. This one should be considered one too. It was intense, exciting and had everyone on their feet. That's a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI disagree entirely. I can't think of a single one-sided beating that I would consider a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzNot always. From a British point of view it was a classic performance and in the wider international Boxing sense it was a perfectly executed example of what makes this noble art so exciting, visceral and unpredictable. Classics do not have to be perfectly matched 12 round tit for tat wars. Some times one sided beat downs are worthy of the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
I wouldn't consider Calzaghe - Lacy a classic either. I saw the fight once, I have no desire to see it again. It was a career-defining fight for Calzaghe and it was a masterful performance from an underdog, but that's all it was (to me at least).Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfI agree with Greenbeanz. A classic can also be an underdog upsetting the odds and smashing their opponent up. Calzaghe/Lazy will always be a classic in that regard. This one should be considered one too. It was intense, exciting and had everyone on their feet. That's a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI disagree entirely. I can't think of a single one-sided beating that I would consider a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzNot always. From a British point of view it was a classic performance and in the wider international Boxing sense it was a perfectly executed example of what makes this noble art so exciting, visceral and unpredictable. Classics do not have to be perfectly matched 12 round tit for tat wars. Some times one sided beat downs are worthy of the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHAren't 'classics' usually competitive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
I can write up a big post but in the end I think all it would say is that I am proud of Froch. My hats off to him.
Guess ward woulda beat the shit outta butte.
Well Kessler was at ringside, I know they were setting up a fight with Bute :o But that would be gone now.
I would like to see Froch Vs Kessler II, but this time in England ;D, but we will see if Saurland just want´s to milk the cow, I am affaid it could be Kessler vs Brian Magee, in Denmark.
On reflection you would have to put that up there with anything Froch has ever done. He came out, didn't start slow and took it to his opponent. It was his most aggressive showing since Pascal and it's been missing at times in some fights. You sense that Froch hasn't let it all go in the ring and Kessler and Ward were those kinds of fights. I would like to see Froch against both Kessler and Ward again and with this search and destroy mindset.
He took Bute's soul today and there is no point in a rematch whatsoever. Bute was in it for all of a minute.
Calzaghe/Lacy is a classic for me and I never tire of it. This was a cracking fight too. All those that picked Bute might disagree, but I am laughing at them. Hahaha! ;D
Tyson vs Berbick , Spinks & Holmes were definitely classics... Three fights that accumulated a total of just 7 rounds of boxing.
Just watched the fight...wow and double wow...well done Mr Froch
job biscuit (great result)!!!
eh eh!!!
how did all you have the fight at the time of stoppage , i had it 40-36 Froch , great performance
Congratulations Carl the Cobra Froch
I'd be tempted to give both round three and four as 10-8's.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
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Originally Posted by Saddo
@Saddo - Thanks boss! :thumb:
cheers
Round 3 for sure. Froch dominated the fight. It was almost too easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunI'd be tempted to give both round three and four as 10-8's.Quote:
Originally Posted by fightscorecollector
Bute showed himself up in a very bad way. He was supposed to be good with all these people predicting him to win.
He was flatout Lacy'd.
good night for boxing and an amazing night for FrochQuote:
I'd like to feel vindicated about my bitching about Bute being overrated but I totally didn't see Froch's career coming. I remember thinking, before he stepped up, that he was way too open defensively to be a top fighter.
Not to piss on Froch's parade but did the foot injury hamper Bute, he was easy to hit.
I don't think it did. Froch lived up to his nickname and struck at perfect times. If Bute thinks his foot injury was the reason he lost then he needs to exercise his rematch clause and try to right the wrong. Froch was to much man on this night of 5/26.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Even on their PPV events they still show adverts. They are greedy whores.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
Hats off to the Cobra. I'm a bit gutted by this one. Froch destroyed Bute, almost to the point that I felt something was amiss. It made me start thinking Froch didn't take his gloves off after the match for a reason. Seriously, I was delusional. He must really have a glass jaw. I didn't even think the blow from Froch that caused the initial problems was that big of a punch. Bute took bigger shots from Johnson and Bika for sure. I'm not sure Bute makes it back, as that appeared to be a tough loss to take. That was a performance for the ages for Carl Froch. It put him on top of British boxing.