Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs?

Vitali beats everyone post lennox.
Vitali is extremely tough.
After hayes performance with vlad i cant see why any of the brothers would want to fight him.
The wlad vs haye fight was possibly the worst i have ever seen.

I wonder if or when Wlad lost that killer instinct. Sometimes a bad loss can take something from a fighter. The beating he took from corrie sanders wasnt a flash ko it was a beating. Perhaps that took something from him..it had too.

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I wonder if or when Wlad lost that killer instinct. Sometimes a bad loss can take something from a fighter. The beating he took from corrie sanders wasnt a flash ko it was a beating. Perhaps that took something from him..it had too.

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Woah woah woah, let's slow down here pal. Wlad has not "lost that killer instinct": Byrd II, Brock, Peter II, Austin, Thompson II (all post the Sanders fight)....Wlad can gun somebody down if he wants, it's if someone can take a prolonged beating and Wlad keeps trying to KO them and gasses out that's the issue. Wlad has "fixed his stamina" by not going balls to the wall thinking he can KO someone when they might not be ready to go.

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Fabulous! Be-Dazzled! 'Skipping my ass through the tulips' LOL.

Bloody queens!!

It's not my fault your thread failed! Again try these sugar tits:

-Brewster v Liakovich\Krasniqi

-VK v Sanders\Lewis

-Golota v Sanders/Bowe

-Maskaev v Rahman 1 & 2

-Byrd v Golota/Mcline

-Tua v Ibeaubuchi

-Adamek v Arreola

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11 pages doesn't seem like a failure. Threads are not about all coming to the same conclusion. People have differing opinions and that is fun. Laying out a yellow pages size list of facts in your opening post and limiting your interactivity to the level of a human search engine spewing out facts does not a great thread make.

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Fabulous! Be-Dazzled! 'Skipping my ass through the tulips' LOL.

Bloody queens!!

It's not my fault your thread failed! Again try these sugar tits:

-Brewster v Liakovich\Krasniqi

-VK v Sanders\Lewis

-Golota v Sanders/Bowe

-Maskaev v Rahman 1 & 2

-Byrd v Golota/Mcline

-Tua v Ibeaubuchi

-Adamek v Arreola

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11 pages doesn't seem like a failure. Threads are not about all coming to the same conclusion. People have differing opinions and that is fun. Laying out a yellow pages size list of facts in your opening post and limiting your interactivity to the level of a human search engine spewing out facts does not a great thread make.

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I am glad my thread has gone to 11 pages you are rıght my frıend.
Be-dazzled my ass---more like fucking "3 Sheets to the Wind Pixie-Mazed Cunt of Cunts." :cool:

'Wanna make an ass of yourself and say K2 fight like Ken Norton' LOL. Pour this guy a drink. Great poster.

For future reference friends. ^_^ Must remind myself that K2 cannot fight like this (Overlooking that he never even won a belt. He was gifted one and then lost it in his first defense).

Mama lion has arrived....Beanz are u his lover?

Loving saddoboxing.....

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(Overlooking that he never even won a belt.

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So thıs ıs your genıus crıterıon for measurıng greatness? Wınnıng a belt? You NEED a belt. And probably already took a few from the bottle too. :cool:

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(Overlooking that he never even won a belt.

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So thıs ıs your genıus crıterıon for measurıng greatness? Wınnıng a belt? You NEED a belt. And probably already took a few from the bottle too. :cool:

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You began a thread entitled 'Wanna make an Ass of yourself and say Klıts can fıght lıke thıs'. I'm still waiting to hear what that proves exactly!

Bowe v Golota was unbelieveable acton wise. Golota is not even close to K2 level! By your logic Golota must rank very highly with u! One can only recommend Bert Cooper fights to u and leave it at that...

ı understand your poınt. Gatti/Ward are no where near all tıme greats and yet that fıght was maybe fıght oıf the century. I truly understand your poınt. I dıdnt say all excıtıng fıghts are fıghts ın whıch the fıghters are better than the K2.

Holmes and Norton displayed more than sheer barroom brawling however. They are 2 of the only fıghters for example to have beaten Ali and the skills (ahh! there's the missing word ol' boy) the SKILLS they dısplayed ın their fight AS WELL AS the sheer blood and guts of ıt, in combination with theır fınesse and ring savvy---THIS is what sets them steps above the K2.

Their determınatıon. Never saw eıther of them crawlin' 'cross the floor with their anuses puckerın' and quıverın' like we saw Wlad do 3 times. Never saw Holmes or Norton say that "too much vaseline was rubbed" on theır scrotums b4 the fıght and thats why they lost. etc.... Wlad of course saıd that about the Brewster fıght. Vaselıne.......puhhhh-LEEEEEASE!!!!!! :rolleyes:

"C-C-C-Crawlin' !!! C-C-C-Crawlin'!!!" then Jim Morrison of the Doors: "Ya crawlin on ya knees!" :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDs5mT4JUs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqEANlBbhsA

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Oh really. Try norton vs 188lb Jose Luis Garcia a 5-1 underdog. Garcia put the heavier Norton on the deck in the 1st round and staggered him in the 5th and 7th rounds. In the 8th, Garcia floored Norton again with 15 seconds left. He got up again, and Garcia put him down again just as the bell rang. Norton stumbled to his corner and collapsed. Try drug ravaged Cooney in 1 too! LOL. U don't even know the history of the fighter u are supporting!

So not only can't K2 fight like Norton we are discussing chin's now too! Joe Bugner was never brutally stopped what does that prove? Bugner is better than Wlad? LOL. I think Wlads Chin issues had more to do with stamina\defense issues and sheer complaency rather than a truly dodgy mandible! Haye and Wach landed flush! Norton's was truly awful throughout his entire career. Being stopped 3 times in 62 fights is hardly a terrible chin is it!

The Brewster HL is something haters were posting on boxing forums 5 years ago mate it's old hat! LOL. Get with the times dumbass! Different WK these days.

Laughable. Childish. Good gauge of your IQ.

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http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1341985787

http://blackathlete.net/artman2/uplo...litschko2.jpeg

Must be a terrible fighter. LOL.

You are correct the Klit brothers are not appreciated enough and will be only when they are retired and missed. As they say they are too good for their own good but you have to acknowledged the competition is poor.

Norton dıdnt pucker hıs anus. Wlad DİD. End of story.

Norton took tons of shots and still carried on. Wlad took a non-shot from Brewster and puckered his anus. Then puckered ıt agaınst Sanders. YOU have the outdayed ideas here, not me. How is reposting somethıng that was common 5 years ago a problem? Stop puckering your quıverıng anus Phılosopher.
YOu are a shıverıng shudderıng anus puckered to the breeze, and you think your arguments are syllogıstıcally sound but ın fact the major AND minor premises of your reasoning are UNsound and therefore you are a cunt and most Saddo members here know you intimately, most on here know you anally and your rectum is barely puckered at this point ın the intercourse.

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Norton dıdnt pucker hıs anus. Wlad DİD. End of story.

Norton took tons of shots and still carried on. Wlad took a non-shot from Brewster and puckered his anus. Then puckered ıt agaınst Sanders. YOU have the outdayed ideas here, not me. How is reposting somethıng that was common 5 years ago a problem? Stop puckering your quıverıng anus Phılosopher.
YOu are a shıverıng shudderıng anus puckered to the breeze, and you think your arguments are syllogıstıcally sound but ın fact the major AND minor premises of your reasoning are UNsound and therefore you are a cunt and most Saddo members here know you intimately, most on here know you anally and your rectum is barely puckered at this point ın the intercourse.

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LOL. Mate who are u trying to impress? All this completely over the top diatribe u spout doesn't fool anyone! You're trying to hard! Plus you are un-healthily pre occupied with anuses! Pretentious fool.

I'm a better poster than you.

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Poor in relation to prime K2. Poor by any other standards? No.

I wouldn't call gold medallists like Chagaev or Solis poor. Nor would i call slick fighters like Byrd or Gomez poor.

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but you have to acknowledged the competition is poor.

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Poor in relation to prime K2. Poor by any other standards? No.

I wouldn't call gold medallists like Chagaev or Solis poor. Nor would i call slick fighters like Byrd or Gomez poor.

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You don't but they are. :)

I don't value your opinion whatsoever! You rated Seth Mitchell ffs! 'I wanne see mitchell give K2 a good fight'! LOL. Average Mormeck would KO Seth! Consider this...Adamek defeated Banks and Cunningham who took Seth Mitchell and Marko Hucks 0! Holmes loses to Spinks! VK clowns Adamek! Not as bad as you would like to believe!

Let's do a comparison. E.g Rahman v Peter!

-Peter beat toney twice. Rahman failed twice. Peter beat Maskaev. Rahman failed twice. Peter KO Tauyrus Sykes in 2. Rahman won a UD over him.

Peter (Although outboxed) acquitted himself well in fight #1 (Minus the rabbit punches!) Rahman was embarrassed by Wlad. Rahman was stopped by Byrd victim Holyfield and outboxed by Chagaev victim Ruiz! K2 ruined Peter. Also consider Peter beat Mcline who had stopped Michael Grant and outboxed Shannon Briggs too!

Byrd and Gomez poor! Go tell Golota-Holy-Tua and Mcall that! See? Gold medallist's are poor! LOL. U do know that Mcall and Tony Tucker lost to mulitiple K2 victims don't u? Ignoramous!

You're poor. Ibragimov is'nt!

What are you babbling on about? I glibly said lets get behind Seth, so what? Like you never have got behind a fighter that got knocked down and lost. Oh yes you have, I forgot Wlad.

No Klit beats any dominant champ

and LOL @ klittards using triangle theories in boxing claiming that if A beat B and B beat C then A will beat C.

Hasim Rahman beat Corrie Sanders who destroyed Wlad ... according to your theory Rahman should beat Wlad as well but Wlad was able to beat Rahman, albeit a shot, nearly crippled version of him.

Another Tyson retard....great

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Tyson would put both sisters in intensive care in the same night

Either Klit beating Iron Mike Tyson is as ridiculous of a notion as a gazelle wounding a lion

Tyson is the lord of boxing and the king of the heavyweights

http://www.corbisimages.com/images/C...4-091e377f20c1

Tyson never reigned as long as Wlad has....never even came close

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Wlad fights punching bags like Wach, old cruisers like Mormeck, obese slobs like Sam Peter and loses to retired golfers like Corrie Sanders.

Only in this weak era can glass jawed frauds like Wlad "reign"

That back trotting arms out nonsense would spell doom for either klit

Tyson was KOing guys with their guard up .. he went straight through their guard with his tremendous power

http://i38.tinypic.com/2q0kcv5.jpg

Tyson easily throwing the greatest uppercut in boxing history

http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums...20uppercut.gif

Imagine what kind of damage it would do to Wlad or Vitali

"Imagine "....when that's starts off your argument it's not a valid point you're coming to is it. The last time Tyson was in the ring he was getting KO'd by McBride.

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"Imagine "....when that's starts off your argument it's not a valid point you're coming to is it. The last time Tyson was in the ring he was getting KO'd by McBride.

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Ali last fight was Berbick does not make him any less of a champion than he was.

Master is spot on here with his assertion that the competition level in this era in this division is one of the weakest in its history and imo just behind Marcianos. Now if Wlads legions cant even grapple with that fact then so ends the debate if one can call it that.

Having said that, its not Wlads fault anymore then it was Hopkins in dominating one of the weakest mid divisions in history but these things will be taken into perspective by both fans and historians whether his stalwart fans like it or not.

Heaven forbid that he surpasses Louis.

How did this turn into a tyson thread?

I dont think Wlad needs to fight like the fighters in the video in the original question asked in this thread.

Wlad should fight how he feels comfy to fight.

Boxing is to hit and not get hit and so having a war all the time might not make Wlad any better but could do the opposite and open him up to getting KO again.

That said, i think the point is that Wlad is never going to be that type of aggressive fighter and will always be boring and safe.

Thats his choice.

And he can do it because he is so much bigger/stronger than evveryone else in this weaker post tyson/lennox era.

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Yes and in the current division Ali is just as relevant as Tyson

i actually fully believe with everyone at their best both klitschkos beat tyson... tyson was too mad and wild to beat wlad... well wlad would need a ref that wasnt on tysons side but i dont see how he would lose to tyson... tyson comes at him wlad leans on him gets the left hand going... slows tyson down and stops him late... wladimir at his best can take a punch and is too smart to fold after one punch in my opinion if he gets hit with a biggish shot he just ties up the smaller tyson leans on him tires him out and eventually starts landing and once he gets the left hook and right straight going tyson is finished....... as for tyson v vitali... tyson should just be happy he never had to go into that fight... in my opinion vitali wins with ease... he just has to much physically and mentally for crazy small tyson

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i actually fully believe with everyone at their best both klitschkos beat tyson... tyson was too mad and wild to beat wlad... well wlad would need a ref that wasnt on tysons side but i dont see how he would lose to tyson... tyson comes at him wlad leans on him gets the left hand going... slows tyson down and stops him late... wladimir at his best can take a punch and is too smart to fold after one punch in my opinion if he gets hit with a biggish shot he just ties up the smaller tyson leans on him tires him out and eventually starts landing and once he gets the left hook and right straight going tyson is finished....... as for tyson v vitali... tyson should just be happy he never had to go into that fight... in my opinion vitali wins with ease... he just has to much physically and mentally for crazy small tyson

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Only in your drug induced hallucinations does Wlad beat Tyson

Tyson had an iron chin and was very difficult to hit, not a stationary punching bag like the bums Wlad fights. Remember how they were telling Wach to move his head when he fought Wlad? Well head movement and the ability to evade punches was Mikes specialty, he himslef said that his defense is why he was impossible to beat. He would plow into Wlads body and throw lethal combos into the body and head. Its clear you have minimal knowledge of the sport if you think Tyson is easy for anyone to beat. Even the Tyson that fought Lewis would shatter Wlads joke of a chin. Prime Tyson was famous for his combinations ... He could throw a 4 punch combo in under a second with each punch having devastating KO power ... He was no one punch fighter back then

If a retired golfers hand speed dumbfounded Wlad then imagine what Mike would do. Tyson was out jabbing tall boxers with long reaches in his prime ... He could probably do the same to either Klit ... Wlad has shown stamina problems before and lost because of it ... He was winning the Brewster fight and lost becuase he couldnt handle Brewsters pressure and aggression and punches himself out trying to keep him away .... And that was with Steward in his corner ... He has shown weakness against powerful punchers, guys with fast hands and speed in general, and guys who have been able to pressure him .... And Mike Tyson was the living emodiment of a fast, powerful, pressure fighter.

The truth is that netheir klit has the inside or mid range fighting ability to beat Mike ... Both hold like octipii as soon as anyone moves in range .. And Tyson would navigate his way around and underneath their jabs and straight hands into firing range and then unload deadly combos ... Even the guys that held against Mike had to take serious punishment, like Mitch Green who held and tried to just survive with Mike (simply surviving with Tyson was seen as a victory back then) lost some teeth.

Watch Tyson vs Lou Saverese to see a preview of Wlad vs Tyson and Tyson vs David Jaco for Vitali vs Tyson

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i actually fully believe with everyone at their best both klitschkos beat tyson... tyson was too mad and wild to beat wlad... well wlad would need a ref that wasnt on tysons side but i dont see how he would lose to tyson... tyson comes at him wlad leans on him gets the left hand going... slows tyson down and stops him late... wladimir at his best can take a punch and is too smart to fold after one punch in my opinion if he gets hit with a biggish shot he just ties up the smaller tyson leans on him tires him out and eventually starts landing and once he gets the left hook and right straight going tyson is finished....... as for tyson v vitali... tyson should just be happy he never had to go into that fight... in my opinion vitali wins with ease... he just has to much physically and mentally for crazy small tyson

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Only in your drug induced hallucinations does Wlad beat Tyson

Tyson had an iron chin and was very difficult to hit, not a stationary punching bag like the bums Wlad fights. Remember how they were telling Wach to move his head when he fought Wlad? Well head movement and the ability to evade punches was Mikes specialty, he himslef said that his defense is why he was impossible to beat. He would plow into Wlads body and throw lethal combos into the body and head. Its clear you have minimal knowledge of the sport if you think Tyson is easy for anyone to beat. Even the Tyson that fought Lewis would shatter Wlads joke of a chin. Prime Tyson was famous for his combinations ... He could throw a 4 punch combo in under a second with each punch having devastating KO power ... He was no one punch fighter back then

If a retired golfers hand speed dumbfounded Wlad then imagine what Mike would do. Tyson was out jabbing tall boxers with long reaches in his prime ... He could probably do the same to either Klit ... Wlad has shown stamina problems before and lost because of it ... He was winning the Brewster fight and lost becuase he couldnt handle Brewsters pressure and aggression and punches himself out trying to keep him away .... And that was with Steward in his corner ... He has shown weakness against powerful punchers, guys with fast hands and speed in general, and guys who have been able to pressure him .... And Mike Tyson was the living emodiment of a fast, powerful, pressure fighter.

The truth is that netheir klit has the inside or mid range fighting ability to beat Mike ... Both hold like octipii as soon as anyone moves in range .. And Tyson would navigate his way around and underneath their jabs and straight hands into firing range and then unload deadly combos ... Even the guys that held against Mike had to take serious punishment, like Mitch Green who held and tried to just survive with Mike (simply surviving with Tyson was seen as a victory back then) lost some teeth.

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In complete agreement as far as Wlad is concerned. But I think you're making a mistake by lumping Vitali together with Wlad, and by doing so are ignoring two critical factors: chin and fear. Wlad's chin is universally known to be weak. Vitali's chin is a hell of a lot better. Think of his fight with Lewis, not a bad puncher himself. Vitali gave as good as he got, and it's anybody's guess how the fight would've developed had Vitali not suffered that ugly gash over the eye. Fear is the other factor. Whereas Wlad fights with a fear of getting tagged, Vitali is completely different. Wlad's fights have been so ugly because he's terrified of getting that chin tapped. Think of the Sultan fight, one of the ugliest HW fights on record (until the Haye fight, that is). Mindful of Sultan's supposed one-punch power, Wlad stayed away all night, turning the fight into a boring "paw-fest" whose recording should be burned, never to be seen again.

I'm not saying Vitali beats a prime Tyson. I'm just saying he'd have a hell of a better chance. He's big and heavy. He doesn't prance around like Wlad. Robotic or not, Vitali would've used his big body to try and wear down Tyson. Tyson would hit Vitali with some shots, but would have to take some in return. That in itself would slow Tyson down just a bit in the later rounds.

Anyone who think's the klit's would beat tyson in he's prime must be deluded.He would destroy the pair of them and make it look easy.

LOL. Yet another Klitschko Smear Job! Is'nt the problem really that the fighters from the United States of America (Black fighters in general in fact!) no longer have a stranglehold on it? Hence a fighter who was imprisoned 2 decades ago and who's last good(ish) win was in the mid 90's is constantly brought back up! Laughable. It's been a decade now of K2 dominance! Your whining and questioning of there ability just makes u look more pathetic as the years go by.

I think the K2 hate stem's from the fear that they would have threatened ones own heroes. Tyson was borederline retarded. Tyson walking through VK is retarded too. Young wlad maybe! Prime wlad....i doubt it!

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/63/...Klitschko2.jpg

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LOL. Yet another Klitschko Smear Job! Is'nt the problem really that the fighters from the United States of America (Black fighters in general in fact!) no longer have a stranglehold on it? Hence a fighter who was imprisoned 2 decades ago and who's last good(ish) win was in the mid 90's is constantly brought back up! Laughable. It's been a decade now of K2 dominance! Your whining and questioning of there ability just makes u look more pathetic as the years go by.

I think the K2 hate stem's from the fear that they would have threatened ones own heroes. Tyson was borederline retarded. Tyson walking through VK is retarded too. Young wlad maybe! Prime wlad....i doubt it!

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/63/...Klitschko2.jpg

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puckerim' til the sun comes up Phılosopher. Pucker pucker pucker--thats you ---the Pixie-Mazed sod goıng on about the K2---quıvering ın the breeze there Phılosopher? On your knees. Out of breath yet goıng on and on about K2. haha. Yes of course. pucker tıl you get pucked bıotch.