Did they have open scoring??? What's his corner talking about being told the score
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Did they have open scoring??? What's his corner talking about being told the score
I know, that's why I gave 4 out of the first 6 rounds to Frampton. But even though Quigg was not doing much. I don't like to give a round to the other fighter by default. I prefer to give it to the fighter who (to me) win's the round outright. So I don't think Frampton was winning the rounds clearly. Not that I think it was bad decision but I had Quigg wining the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Quigg did very little at the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
How do you know, you couldn't see it............ Or could you?😉Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHis trainer said he thought Quigg was winning the early rounds. He must be blind.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Notice Hearn didn't do an interview loool
Fat wanker
My Mom has a bit of thing for Eddie Hearn, a bit random I know. She's now a big Joshua fan only because she gets to see Hearn on the TV all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
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Originally Posted by ConradMy Mom has a bit of thing for Eddie Hearn, a bit random I know. She's now a big Joshua fan only because she gets to see Hearn on the TV all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendettos
Your mum has a thing for tall aggressive guys lol
Hope your dad isnt self conscious!!
I'm not gonna deny, I had Quigg shading it as well. I know most people see it different, but I agree with @denilson200 about fighters being given rounds when they haven't actually gone and won the round.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200I know, that's why I gave 4 out of the first 6 rounds to Frampton. But even though Quigg was not doing much. I don't like to give a round to the other fighter by default. I prefer to give it to the fighter who (to me) win's the round outright. So I don't think Frampton was winning the rounds clearly. Not that I think it was bad decision but I had Quigg wining the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterQuigg did very little at the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Yes, you could say Frampton was in control early on , but he didn't actually land with much, more than Quigg but enough to win the rounds outright?
His trainer waited until the 8th to tell him he was behind 6-1 and then after the fight said he had it 2-all after 4.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterHis trainer said he thought Quigg was winning the early rounds. He must be blind.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
The first four rounds were a toss up but Frampton probably won them on effective aggression alone by trying to fight. Was there even 20 punches thrown over the first 4? More like 10 and Carl threw 8 of them.
I suppose the case could be made that it was an 8 or 7 round fight if you called the first 4 or 5 a draw.
Their strategy over the first 6 rounds was not fit for a unification fight of this magnitude. I was expecting a foty candidate. Terrible game plan.
Now they they've finally robbed their faithful fans hopefully one of them will step up to the champ.
Gotta feel sorry for Guillermo Rigondeaux. He must look at these big pay days others are getting, the big fights others are getting and then think 'I'm the best fighter in the division but why am I fighting for chump change against a no name fighter Jazza Dickens"
Even after this, even after the winner of Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg’s clash must face him or relinquish the WBA and IBF belt. He was last name on Frampton or McGuigan lips.
It's what happens when you are born in Cuba. If he was born in Manchester he'd still be carrying multiple belts and he'd be a wealthy man.(well, in a vacuum. Only changing place of birth)Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
Quigg says his jaw was broken by an uppercut in the 4th round, it was swelling up in the dressing room as he spoke.
That still did not explain his slow and negative start.
I am surprised the fans did not start booing earlier.
Fight went as expected for me. Scorecard for Quigg was a shocker but hey this is boxing. Both fighters light years behind Rigo. Pretty glad i couldnt get tickets for this in hindsight.
Some people paid £16.95 for the pleasure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
I thought Quigg and especially Gallagher had learnt from the Salinas fight about doing nothing in the first half. Stupid tactics. Frampton didn't have to land anything to look like he was winning, he is a much superior mover.
What's the point of having a massive engine if you finish the fight with loads left.
The better boxer won. Massive letdown of a fight though.
I pretty much agree with this scoringQuote:
Originally Posted by denilson200
although im not sure about 7, id have to watch it again
I remember the commentators suggesting quigg had won the 7th but I didn't really think so at the time although he had clearly done better
even though at times Frampton was landing no more than quigg was in the early rounds he was trying to make a fight of it
What an absolute fucking let down that was. Quigg and his teams tactics were a joke plus some of the instruction between rounds was barely amateur.
Yet again im glad I never have to pay to watch these supposed ppv borefests.
Quigg should have rushed him from the off and made it ugly, he showed Frampton way to much respect.
quiggs best chance was to try and bash him up
and before the fight I thought he had a good chance of doing that
Quigg's jaw may have attributed to his tentativeness and his failure to start faster. I thought by round 4 he would start to turn it on. It's a credit to him that he was able to put hands on Frampton and start doing some damage in the late rounds.
Frampton deserved the victory. I cannot see how Quigg was up one that one card?
Quigg's jaw broke in the 4th and can not explain his slow start. Scott and his trainer got their tactics completely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineal
I agree Quigg should have come out aggressive but it began pretty much as I expected (although I didn't dream it would be so dull). I thought Frampton would box smart and safe early with Quigg starting to connect cleanly from around the 4th round on wards. Unfortunately he didn't start doing damage until around the 8th.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterQuigg's jaw broke in the 4th and can not explain his slow start. Scott and his trainer got their tactics completely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineal
Scott hardly threw anything so do not know what he was playing at early.Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealI agree Quigg should have come out aggressive but it began pretty much as I expected (although I didn't dream it would be so dull). I thought Frampton would box smart and safe early with Quigg starting to connect cleanly from around the 4th round on wards. Unfortunately he didn't start doing damage until around the 8th.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterQuigg's jaw broke in the 4th and can not explain his slow start. Scott and his trainer got their tactics completely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lineal
Did you see his face drop when he was told he was losing. His broken jaw nearly hit the ground.
Finally got to watch the fight. Gutted for Quigg because he proved that he is more than capable of taking rounds off Frampton when he put his foot down and the game plan, whatever that was clearly back fired big time. Fair play to Frampton, but he and smarmy Bazza are going to be insufferable for a while now. Could easily be a trilogy if you ignore the first 6 rounds but they both need to focus on other challenges for now.
I just saw this too. I think Santa Cruz batters Frampton, unless he was absolutely killed at the weight and is a different fighter at 126.
I would rather see Barry being swarmy than Hearn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You can not forget how poor the first 6 rounds were. Quigg was pathetic.
Oh dearQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI would rather see Barry being swarmy than Hearn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You can not forget how poor the first 6 rounds were. Quigg was pathetic.
I'm not disagreeing with you but Frampton was hardly setting the place on fire himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI would rather see Barry being swarmy than Hearn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You can not forget how poor the first 6 rounds were. Quigg was pathetic.
Frampton was winning the rounds by doing very little. Scott allowed him to do that, why should Carl throw extra punches when he did not have to win the rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealI'm not disagreeing with you but Frampton was hardly setting the place on fire himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI would rather see Barry being swarmy than Hearn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You can not forget how poor the first 6 rounds were. Quigg was pathetic.
Carl is under no obligation to entertain the fans, essentially he was doing what Floyd Mayweather has been doing for many years.
Yep. And you absolutely rip Mayweather to shreds for that. So exactly what is the difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrampton was winning the rounds by doing very little. Scott allowed him to do that, why should Carl throw extra punches when he did not have to win the rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealI'm not disagreeing with you but Frampton was hardly setting the place on fire himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI would rather see Barry being swarmy than Hearn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You can not forget how poor the first 6 rounds were. Quigg was pathetic.
Carl is under no obligation to entertain the fans, essentially he was doing what Floyd Mayweather has been doing for many years.
frampton has been ordered by the wba to fight rigondeaux next,
Carl Frampton: Belfast boxer ordered to defend WBA world title against Rigondeaux - BBC Sport
doesnt sound like it is going to happen though
firstly it wasn't framptons fault the fight was shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep. And you absolutely rip Mayweather to shreds for that. So exactly what is the difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrampton was winning the rounds by doing very little. Scott allowed him to do that, why should Carl throw extra punches when he did not have to win the rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealI'm not disagreeing with you but Frampton was hardly setting the place on fire himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI would rather see Barry being swarmy than Hearn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You can not forget how poor the first 6 rounds were. Quigg was pathetic.
Carl is under no obligation to entertain the fans, essentially he was doing what Floyd Mayweather has been doing for many years.
but fighters are under an obligation to entertain the fans, and judges should be urged to score the aggressor, as I think they probably did on Saturday
and going back to mayweather, watch mayweather canelo again, there were rounds being scored to mayweather where he through only a handful of punches
Im not saying canelo won the fight, im saying there should be more put on entertainment
Yeah, but my point is that you and Master are trying to Justify for Frampton what he did, yet the same doesn't apply to Floyd.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44firstly it wasn't framptons fault the fight was shitQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep. And you absolutely rip Mayweather to shreds for that. So exactly what is the difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrampton was winning the rounds by doing very little. Scott allowed him to do that, why should Carl throw extra punches when he did not have to win the rounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by LinealI'm not disagreeing with you but Frampton was hardly setting the place on fire himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI would rather see Barry being swarmy than Hearn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
You can not forget how poor the first 6 rounds were. Quigg was pathetic.
Carl is under no obligation to entertain the fans, essentially he was doing what Floyd Mayweather has been doing for many years.
but fighters are under an obligation to entertain the fans, and judges should be urged to score the aggressor, as I think they probably did on Saturday
and going back to mayweather, watch mayweather canelo again, there were rounds being scored to mayweather where he through only a handful of punches
Im not saying canelo won the fight, im saying there should be more put on entertainment
I agree his priority isn't to entertain the fans, it is to WIN! And you do that the way that suits you best, and that is exactly what Floyd did.
I know he's a twat and I know we're talking about him yet again, but there has to be consistency when we talk about what he does IN the ring.
I'm not trying to justify what Frampton did but it was a lot more than what scott did, or perhaps I was just expecting quigg to go out and try and knock him out so, him doing completely the opposite to what I expected, made it seem worse than it was
if you know what I mean
and youre right, mayweather is a twat
Ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Big difference is Frampton normally entertains and this was the only fight where he cruised the first 6 rounds.
Have you seen any of Mayweather's early fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Why the Double standards? You said yourself he doesn't have to entertain.
Yes I have seen his early fights, have you seen the boring fights he fought at welterweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHave you seen any of Mayweather's early fights?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Why the Double standards? You said yourself he doesn't have to entertain.
Frampton had 6 rounds. Floyd had 72. :)