earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

George clubs Wlad out in 2 rounds, his usual 6 minute butchery.

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Yes because Wladimir has always been vulnerable to slow plodders significantly smaller and lighter who stand right in front of him and wail wide arcing arm and push punches telegraphed from China at him isn't he.

Thanks. I hadn't noticed that enormous gap in his defences by now.

;D

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Originally Posted by Andre

Yeah and theres a lot more things to consider too, like more rounds and a lot less fucking around (less technique) the further back you go in history, thinner the gloves get too.Some modern guys wouldnt hold up, some of the leaders now would dominate.

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Boxers have become more evasive and developed technique the closer to the present because of much harder punches in the HW's. The sport has also evolved more professionally, back then it was more of a "tough man contest" today they are elite athletes.

Thinner gloves presents a bit of a puzzle. You would THINK that the power of the punch is greater with thinner gloves but in fact, this exact thing was busted on that sports science show. Turned out that the amount of force transferred to the head was exactly the same (it is spread over wider portion of the head and leads to an identical concussive force. Thinner gloves obviously though leads to more structural damage to the skin, skull and sensory organs. For this reason however, fights were often stopped when the boxer had become disfigured (which would never be allowed today) but it is believed there are more cases of brain damage today than then because the boxer can receive more punches for longer.

It is unclear whether a modern boxer would want to BE a boxer under such conditions. But were they to accept I am quite certain they could dominate it. The reverse would be next to impossible I believe, but that's just an opinion.

You also mentioned rounds. More rounds generally equates to featherfists. As a rule, the more rounds fought, either the lighter the boxers, the more featherfisted the boxers in it, and/or the plans have failed or were compromised by the opponent.

Like Lennox Lewis said about the chances of Rahman vs Wladimir... "I think that's a FAT chance!"

Povetkin v Rahman was a disgraceful fight. The Rock could barely stand.

Tua and maskaev butchered the Rock. He was already done back in the early 2000s.

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Tua and maskaev butchered the Rock. He was already done back in the early 2000s.

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That is rubbish! Absolute ruibbish!

Rahman lost all 4 of these fights on paper. The 2 Maskaev fights he dominantly won in scoring wise but was legit KOed at the end.

Rahman was 2ce ripped off against Tua, the first fight was stopped prem after Rahman dominantly outboxed Tua and the 2nd SD, Rahman clearly done enough to win.

Your point here is not relevant at all.

Rahman was a tremendously tough opponent and by augmenting his actual record with these actual facts, you can get a feeling for Rahman's true worth as a modern HW boxer.

This thread has deviated from it's original Shaver's highlight.

Ironically we are now onto Rahman who punches about 3 times harder and is also about 3 times a better boxer than Shavers. Where does it end?

Next thing, you'll be claiming Shavers is a decent opponent for the Klitschko's, Lewis, Tyson, Bowe and Holyfield!

Unbelievable!

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