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Blame Sky and Eddie too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Duke
I agree with the last sentence. you can respond or not respond , that's up to you . But if you do respond , please don't just dredge up the same old horseshit and try to address the points I make instead of twisting them round into you want them to say . come up with something new and I'll reply, but I haven't time to repeat another 10000 words on top of the drivel you have put down.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYes, you're being paranoid. Saying Wlad has ducked big punchers paired with he was shit in his last fight seems to me like you're not dissing just one fight but a portion of Wladimir's career. Wlad has not ducked anybody, AJ and Wilder are young and inexperienced and holy shit Deontay Wilder just got done fighting Cris Arreola...in 2016, not 2009. Artur Szpilka, Johann Duhaupas, Eric Molina, Jason Gavern.....not exactly a Murderer's Row. Wilder has had almost 40 fights and you'd be hard pressed to find 10 guys who had a legitimate chance against Deontay. Not saying Deontay is bad, I'm saying he's not had the most dangerous of matches.....yeah but Wlad is the one with no intention to fighting Deontay? Dude, when Wlad was being begged by his brother to retire Wlad went out and fought an undefeated Sam Peter who at the time was looking damn near unbeatable. I don't think Wlad looks at any heavyweight out there and says to himself "Gee, I had better not fight that guy"....he was the heavyweight champion for a decade for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
No wish to fight Joshua? Ok, I mean I don't know what Wlad is going to do, again, he has had a longer than usual layoff, longest of his career perhaps. Wlad fights twice a year typically, it's October his last fight was in November of 2015.....you think he might want to knock the ring rust off? I don't know. Maybe the numbers aren't to his liking, maybe the numbers aren't to Joshua's liking, who knows what the REAL hold up is, but I don't think a guy who was champion for a decade and has 68 professional fights under his belt is worried about who his opponent is....call it a hunch.
Why would Wlad's legacy be damaged if he lost to Anthony Joshua? #1 We as boxing fans have no idea what Anthony Joshua is going to become, he could remain undefeated for his entire career (unlikely, but it's still an attainable goal at this point). #2 Wlad is over the hill for a boxer, anything he achieves now is icing on the cake he has nothing to prove to anyone. It's like RJJ's career after losing to Tarver that doesn't undo what RJJ achieved in the sport his legacy isn't damaged.
I'm not so much attempting to defend Wlad as I'm playing Devils Advocate here. You think Wlad is ducking or avoiding or whatever, alright....I doubt that, but alright. You think he was shit in his last fight, I don't believe you'll find many INCLUDING Wlad who will disagree with that assessment. So the problem you have with my posts?? I don't know, do you want me to not respond? I can not respond if you don't like having to defend your opinion....but I kind of thought the forum was here for debate and discussion
Yeah, that's what I did to start with and you got upset about it. The ONLY reason I repeat anything is I'm attempting to get you to understand my point of view....not because I MUST have you agree with me, but just because I was attempting to make it clear. I don't know, from how you responded, if you misinterpreted what I posted or what the Hell happened....that's all, no harm intended, not trying to ruffle feathersQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Mate, trust me I'm not upset, and maybe I like a debate too much. But it all started where I was telling Eric he was being harsh on Wlad. I said many times he's had a great career, and I fully expected him to beat Fury easily in the 1st fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYeah, that's what I did to start with and you got upset about it. The ONLY reason I repeat anything is I'm attempting to get you to understand my point of view....not because I MUST have you agree with me, but just because I was attempting to make it clear. I don't know, from how you responded, if you misinterpreted what I posted or what the Hell happened....that's all, no harm intended, not trying to ruffle feathersQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
But I firmly believe, even when I like a boxer, you have to praise when it's due and criticise when it's due.
I don't have anything against Wlad, I don't dislike him, there are a lot of things I respect about him. But his time can't go on forever, and once that clock starts ticking fast, it's impossible to slow it down.
There are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Completely agree with all of that and yeah Wlad is a lot closer to his 'Sell By' date than his Prime right now....he's on borrowed time not in just the heavyweight division but in boxing in general. I think he's still got a few fights left, but we're going to have to see him actually have some fights before we can judge if what happened vs Fury was a perfect storm of a fluke or the new reality for the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Guys like Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder are exactly where Wlad was when Lennox Lewis was king, it'll be very interesting to see how things play out and I for one wouldn't be opposed to an Undefeated Anthony Joshua fighting an Undefeated Deontay Wilder for the Undefeated/Undisputed Heavyweight Championship....of the World (in my Michael Buffer voice). I think THAT fight could really spur on a renaissance in boxing and they're young enough to have a few bites at the apples if the first fight between them is a good one....I really like the style matchup too a tight muscle bound clinical boxer and a loose wiry power punching gunslinger. It would be a beautiful thing for the sport.
Wlad should take AJ sooner rather than later as AJ is relatively inexperienced and will only get better whereas Wlad is getting older and nearing retirement.
Absolutely or Wlad could do as Lennox Lewis did and just wait it out and retire without fighting him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The likelihood of Anthony Joshua and/or Deontay Wilder remaining undefeated is next to 0
Says the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Yeah, the guy who will go down as the WORST champion of ALL-TIME.....dude couldn't even make 1 single solitary title defense, not a 1 and it was a rematch...you'd think he'd have enough confidence in himself to at the very least handle that but nooooo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Gypsy Warrior indeed....at war armed with his trusty razor blade and mirror chopping up lines
What a joke.
The real heavyweight champion of the world has his IBF belt taken off him, even though it is physically impossible for him to follow their wishes. He would never have got the shot against Wlad if he didn't agree to the rematch clause.
The real heavyweight champion of the world then acts like an idiot, is subject to a politically correct media witch hunt and then crumbles under the pressure of being champ.
That oily grinning second-hand car salesman Hearn spouts shit about a fight that we would all actually like to see happen... then the Alphabet Boys revert to type and split up the titles to maximise their sanctioning money.
Instead of seeing two of the best four heavyweights in the world fight each other .... we get two untested nobodies fighting for the WBOffal title, Joshua defend against china chinned Price, who doesn't believe in himself any more. Wilder is still injured, and then we somehow have Haye in the picture .... WHAT HAS HAYE EVER DONE TO DESErVE A SHOT????
When you lay it all out, this indeed has become about the worst case scenario, all four belts are being contested in about the weakest possible bouts possible. Wlad-Browne(WBA), AJ-Price(IBF), Parker-Ruiz(WBO), and with Wilder still out Stiverne-Povetkin for the #1 WBC slot. Its possible we won't get one really hoped for clash anytime soon. Luis Ortiz would be a great opponent for any of these guys, I don't even mind seeing Haye in the mix if he actually wants to fight.
Fact is he has no boxing licence and has drug and health problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
He also has been stripped of the titles , I'm not sure what a sig is but I'm sure the people at your youth club know.
Unfortunately we all know how boxing works. We can all see that the division has the potential to ignite, but let's just watch, those big fights won't get made. You can't even get the best of British level fighting each other because they don't want to lose their place in the queue.
There is so much money to be made without the risk of losing in the big fights, that promoters more than fighters don't want to take that chance. There's nobody out there that dares to be great! It's not just the HW Division either, look at the WW's, Canelo/Golovkin etc.
I blame the weak as piss and mainly corrupt "Governing" Bodies. They don't govern shit.
You just can't stop talking about the subject you said no one should mention!;D Priceless!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlFact is he has no boxing licence and has drug and health problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
He also has been stripped of the titles , I'm not sure what a sig is but I'm sure the people at your youth club know.
The only reason I said we should move on is that it may upset fury and he may think its a witch hunt and make him cry. It may also make him depressed and force him to take more cocaine , do you really want that ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou just can't stop talking about the subject you said no one should mention!;D Priceless!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlFact is he has no boxing licence and has drug and health problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
He also has been stripped of the titles , I'm not sure what a sig is but I'm sure the people at your youth club know.
Remember he hasn't got a licence or a title so we should respect his privacy and let him dry his tears and recover.
Anyone would think this thread was about a retired boxer the way Al is going:rolleyes:
Fury had his 15 minutes of fame, and should be given some credit for it.
Was confident in Joshua, but weary of him fighting Wlad a bit, even now. Was best fight possible though in the division outside of Luis Ortiz.
This is bullshit if they are all going to circle jerk with lesser fighters for the trinkets.
Par for the course though.
Weary or wary?Quote:
Was confident in Joshua, but weary of him fighting Wlad a bit, even now. Was best fight possible though in the division outside of Luis Ortiz.
This is bullshit if they are all going to circle jerk with lesser fighters for the trinkets.
Par for the course though.
Ross Tyson is out of boxing for a few years, forget about him for 2 years or so, he's not in the picture anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Richie don't keep on at him or they will both cry with this witch huntQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoRoss Tyson is out of boxing for a few years, forget about him for 2 years or so, he's not in the picture anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Jesus Christ! I think if you read above its Al who keeps bringing him up!;D I hi lighted to him how he'd actually posted himself not to talk about him but yet can't even help himself about 10 pages later! Think a few people need to get over themselves;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoRoss Tyson is out of boxing for a few years, forget about him for 2 years or so, he's not in the picture anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
It must be so tiring to be youQuote:
Originally Posted by rossJesus Christ! I think if you read above its Al who keeps bringing him up!;D I hi lighted to him how he'd actually posted himself not to talk about him but yet can't even help himself about 10 pages later! Think a few people need to get over themselves;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoRoss Tyson is out of boxing for a few years, forget about him for 2 years or so, he's not in the picture anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossSays the closet Tyson Fury fan who said this in this very thread;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlThere are more obstacles involving Fury fighting anyone as he has a suspended licence due to drugs and health. He couldn't handle the pressure of the title so lets see if a real fighting champion can be found.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets just be patient and we will find a good champion who does cry at criticism from the media and turn to drugs.
Who also has a sig of current Ring heavyweight champ of the world;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Please dont think any talk in this forum about fury is any kind of witch hunt , we dont want more tears and drug taking .
Thanks for respecting the unemployed fury.
It's like a fan club.
The Joshua v Klitschko fight was supposed to be massive, biggest event in British boxing history yet talk has reverted to another boxer who's not even boxing;D;D
The funniest thing is it wasn't even by me;D:cool:
It's all Furys fault ;D. Didn't even realize AJ was fighting Price until yesterday. Bit pointless but just something for domestic consumption. Is Wlad and Browne official? That could be a very ugly affair.
Wary of you being a cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Ross what about Hughie you can still worship the Fury clan.😀
Yes we will have to focus on the employed one of the fury's , the one with leprosy.
Tyson is singing for his supper yes he has a bolt loose Al, if they bring back stars in there eye's tonight Mathew I shall be Slim Whitman singing I will remember you LOL.😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Bit of an extreme reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkWary of you being a cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Maybe he could sing - White Lines by Grandmaster Flash.
Just had a message from twatter saying Klit v AJ is off because Klit has been injured...I didn't think the fight was happening anyway, am I missing something?
It was on sky news. Just confirming what we already know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
you missing your penisQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Why don't you ask yo momma if I'm missing my penisQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44you missing your penisQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Yeah dawg I just dissed yo momma
With retirements, injuries and posing by Hayr, will any meaningful fights get made in this division?
Looks like it'll be a wait until 2017 for meaningful fights, though Ruiz Jr. vs Parker could be quite a fun bout to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
I highly doubt David Haye will ever be in another meaningful fight simply because he's not active enough to compete with the top tier heavyweights....he SHOULD because he's a great talent, but he's too much of a flake to dedicate himself to the sport and too afraid of losing, it's a shame too because he could have some good fights. Good thing England has Joshua.
Other bouts which are available and would be interesting could get made in 2017 and I would think that by the end of next year either Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, or BOTH will have 1 loss on their records even without facing each other.