Labour’s Brexit secretary, Keir Starmer, improvised on his prepared remarks and stated, “Nobody is ruling out remain as an option.”
The audience of several thousand burst into applause and stood for long minutes.
Fucking hell these people are sick
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Labour’s Brexit secretary, Keir Starmer, improvised on his prepared remarks and stated, “Nobody is ruling out remain as an option.”
The audience of several thousand burst into applause and stood for long minutes.
Fucking hell these people are sick
Labour will commit suicide if they do. They fail to understand that their core is not identity politics or centralised suprastates, but good old fashioned economic socialism. Things like closing the borders to protect the poor domestic working class. They have utterly lost it in the head. That is why so many have fled. They want border control and an end to political correctness.
Boris Johnson and Gary busey are the same person right?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Boris is hilarious.....like Mr. Bean's coked up uncleQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi9n1VbkLW0
:biglaugh:
Has the absolute crass ironic stupidity of someone from another country being so obsessed with making sure another country breaks off relationships with other countries because they see that as Interference, not struck you yet? 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
What you are basically calling for is a return to Blairs labour where the party members are ignored and everyone sells their souls in order to present themselves as tory lite. As bit like Brett Anderson making a living at pretending to be gay when in reality he is married to a woman with kids and probably watches home and away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are determined to avoid the real issue in order to protect the 1%". The UK has be one a world centre for Corporate tax evasion and you are blaming immigrants and victims of the MIC wars that prop up your twisted version of capitalism.
" so many have fled"?
Labour Party membership has risen by 150% since Corbyn took over. You just make stuff up in order to justify you having morphed into Hatey Hopkins.
Many have fled but many more by years endQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
No, no, no. Way off base as per usual Beanz.
Economically Corbyn makes beautiful sense. He is exactly what I am into. It is just that I have little time for the EU, identity politics, or restrictions on free speech to appease unfriendly groups. Blair brought in blasphemy laws and opened the borders and started illegal wars. That is precisely what I object to.
A second referendum is wrong for all kinds of reasons. Do you not for a minute think I want to see anything negative for the UK. It is in a pickle because of Labour and Tories (and Lib dems of course).
As for Brett Anderson....what does that have to do with anything? Brett Anderson sang a song called 'Song for the migrant worker'. Check it out. It is a really beautiful song.
Sorry mate Corbyn is a jackass a former Communist I could not vote for that stupid cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you are basically calling for is a return to Blairs labour where the party members are ignored and everyone sells their souls in order to present themselves as tory lite. As bit like Brett Anderson making a living at pretending to be gay when in reality he is married to a woman with kids and probably watches home and away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are determined to avoid the real issue in order to protect the 1%". The UK has be one a world centre for Corporate tax evasion and you are blaming immigrants and victims of the MIC wars that prop up your twisted version of capitalism.
" so many have fled"?
Labour Party membership has risen by 150% since Corbyn took over. You just make stuff up in order to justify you having morphed into Hatey Hopkins.
Ha! I could understand why many would think that after reading the mainstream press. That is not the point. I can understand why you might not vote for him despite him being way more typical of liberal and parties on the left than Blair's version of Labour ever was. Miles and Brock (who to be fair often does not even know which planet he is on) are trying to pretend that so many have fled labour when in reality their numbers have jumped through the roof, particularly among the young.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoSorry mate Corbyn is a jackass a former Communist I could not vote for that stupid cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you are basically calling for is a return to Blairs labour where the party members are ignored and everyone sells their souls in order to present themselves as tory lite. As bit like Brett Anderson making a living at pretending to be gay when in reality he is married to a woman with kids and probably watches home and away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are determined to avoid the real issue in order to protect the 1%". The UK has be one a world centre for Corporate tax evasion and you are blaming immigrants and victims of the MIC wars that prop up your twisted version of capitalism.
" so many have fled"?
Labour Party membership has risen by 150% since Corbyn took over. You just make stuff up in order to justify you having morphed into Hatey Hopkins.
Anyone is better then the current Tory government, and If a democratic election brings Corbyn and Labour into power they will owe it to those young members to implement what they voted for.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b09fc01e03202b
Back in the day in the union he was there mate he has Communist views.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzHa! I could understand why many would think that after reading the mainstream press. That is not the point. I can understand why you might not vote for him despite him being way more typical of liberal and parties on the left than Blair's version of Labour ever was. Miles and Brock (who to be fair often does not even know which planet he is on) are trying to pretend that so many have fled labour when in reality their numbers have jumped through the roof, particularly among the young.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dia bandoSorry mate Corbyn is a jackass a former Communist I could not vote for that stupid cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhat you are basically calling for is a return to Blairs labour where the party members are ignored and everyone sells their souls in order to present themselves as tory lite. As bit like Brett Anderson making a living at pretending to be gay when in reality he is married to a woman with kids and probably watches home and away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
You are determined to avoid the real issue in order to protect the 1%". The UK has be one a world centre for Corporate tax evasion and you are blaming immigrants and victims of the MIC wars that prop up your twisted version of capitalism.
" so many have fled"?
Labour Party membership has risen by 150% since Corbyn took over. You just make stuff up in order to justify you having morphed into Hatey Hopkins.
Anyone is better then the current Tory government, and If a democratic election brings Corbyn and Labour into power they will owe it to those young members to implement what they voted for.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b09fc01e03202b
The bad old day far left lunitics he was there Diane Abbott as thick as pig shit heaven help us .
The Torys a bunch of wide boys politics stinks not one party are fit to be in power.
Example all of us in work are Labour voters but none of us can bring ourselves to vote for a party of fools lead by a idiot.
Oh Jesus, Diane Abbott/the Commy Unions old school asswipes!!!
"The bits in the media you read are false, the bits I pick out are true and suit my argument "
Lol fucking priceless
Do ya like immigrants?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do7mpEpU8AA7pAS.jpg
Because I hope you like immigrants :-\
Europe has room for 3 to 4 BILLION refugees according to EU Commision Report
>Finland 332 Million
>UK 184 Million
>Greece 120 Million
>France 486 Million
>Sweden 440 Million
(Pssst ...hope that helps :thumb: )
But far be it from me to call it an "invasion" it's more of a shuffling of the deck....the Earth still has the same number of people, they're just distributed better, more evenly, and they're going to erase your culture, your language, your way of life......but you had better smile and take it....or else you're a bigot
You seem to know absolutely fuck all about the history of the UK and Europe if you think we don't like immigrants. And this from an American :-\ You know fuck all about OUR culture , OUR language, OUR way of life, why would you if you came here you would just be another immigrant.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I know enough to know that tripling your population with people from outside the UK would mean that the UK would cease to be the UK because demography is destiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
If I came there to STAY I'd be an immigrant otherwise I'd just be a tourist.
Demography is destiny? ;D. Man you sound like Britanny Spears, what a crock of shit. The United Kingdom? The United States? You seem to have one big issue with people being united. All about the individual for you is it not? Except when it comes to responsibility and then its good old identity politics. The left this, the immigrant problem, the progressive that etc. It's all that man Gd bollocks. Christian Colonial Capitalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI know enough to know that tripling your population with people from outside the UK would mean that the UK would cease to be the UK because demography is destiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
If I came there to STAY I'd be an immigrant otherwise I'd just be a tourist.
Beanz you are out of touch down there in your pirate village. Even Russell Brand the hippy is now getting it when it comes to immigration. What has happened in the past years is unique to British history and people seem rather fucking angry. Let it continue and it will likely get serious. Brexit voters voted with heart and mind.
You could just say trebling a population is stupid, but nope you instead attack Lyle. Oh dear.
BTW give the Murray book a spin and challenge yourself. Europe appears to have a death wish and it is very sad to see. At least the people are waking up.
Actually I'm being generous here and feeling like I'm responsible for my fellow citizens as tax paying law abiding Americans. Schools suffer, there's more crime, there's more AMERICANS out of work...in your case English/British out of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzDemography is destiny? ;D. Man you sound like Britanny Spears, what a crock of shit. The United Kingdom? The United States? You seem to have one big issue with people being united. All about the individual for you is it not? Except when it comes to responsibility and then its good old identity politics. The left this, the immigrant problem, the progressive that etc. It's all that man Gd bollocks. Christian Colonial Capitalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongI know enough to know that tripling your population with people from outside the UK would mean that the UK would cease to be the UK because demography is destiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
If I came there to STAY I'd be an immigrant otherwise I'd just be a tourist.
Why invite in more bad stuff? All our nations have enough...your police are a fuckin joke...your police and France's police.....FRANCE bruh...France
I am cool with SOME people moving to the US dude we've got maybe 20 million illegals in the country already....yeah we're full up.
It's not just about being full up, but with technological changes, there is simply no use for an excess supply of labour. When I was in the UK I couldn't even find cashiers at the airport. They have simply done away with even those ordinary jobs that a SERVICE BASED ECONOMY is meant to have. So no manufacturing, service vanishing and still they need more people? I think people are in for a big shock in coming decades and politicians do not understand it at all. There are too many people and nothing for them to do. Look at southern Europe with massive youth unemployment, there is no way to find them work. The world has changed. Meanwhile Africa and the Middle East keep on pumping out 5 babies per woman and want to go to the promised land. The promised lands are peaked out.I know it is politically incorrect to keep pointing this out, but this is the problem and that is not on the UK to deal with by ruining itself too. It's a dead end and a small island.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWSvFBLhamA
Yyyyeah anyone have anything to say about the EU starting up an Armed Forces?
There are bigger things at the moment.
May has got her proposal accepted by her cabinet but ministers are resigning and I do not think she will get the deal through parliament.
She may face a vote of no confidence!
Oh I don't doubt you at all Master. Theresa May is not a well liked leader even in her own party, she's establishment, she WISHES she could keep England in the EU she's an establishment leader no different than Blair or Brown or Cameron. I'm not sure if Corbyn would have been different, but I know for a fact Farrage would have shaken things up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
From an outsider's perspective, I want to see England be unapologetically England. That's got 0 to do with race or religion, it's got to do with culture and pride. I want similar things for America, I want similar things for France, Germany, Russia, Japan, China, etc. I simply don't understand why leaders are so eager to throw away their histories for this idea of a new influx of migrants from places where there's no governments, no economies, none that work in our manner of doing things. Why are people so eager to fuck up a good thing? Who does it benefit?
Britain, not England mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
England marginally voted to leave, Scotland overwhelmingly to remain, Wales to leave. Northern Ireland is one of the main sticking points in the negotiations because of the border question (and also several hundred years of bloody history, hatred and complicated politics.)
If it was just England, it would be a much much easier negotiation internally, as well as with the EU.
I forgot how tedious y'all can be about the whole name thing....I guess I mean Britain then if we're being pedantic about it, but hey y'all continue calling 100% of Americans "Yanks" because THAT's accurate :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by XBritain, not England mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
England marginally voted to leave, Scotland overwhelmingly to remain, Wales to leave. Northern Ireland is one of the main sticking points in the negotiations because of the border question (and also several hundred years of bloody history, hatred and complicated politics.)
If it was just England, it would be a much much easier negotiation internally, as well as with the EU.
Ministers are resigning by the day, May could be out by next week.
There could be a leadership challenge but who wants Boris or Mogg as leader?
Bring on a general election but do not want a 2nd referendum.
We can all only hope she gets the hell out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Boris would be a laugh riot. Mogg would be interesting....but your political system is so crazy it could be a darkhorse candidate.
The first referendum should be followed IMO they said 1 vote and now they're saying meh maybe the second will make the decision.....dude if you're having a vote the first vote should fucking count even thinking about a second referendum shakes the foundation of your government.
I agree but these Remainers will try anything to get another vote. Until they win they will not rest. They can not keep having votes until they win. Very corrupt and undemocratic a bit like what happened to the Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWe can all only hope she gets the hell out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Boris would be a laugh riot. Mogg would be interesting....but your political system is so crazy it could be a darkhorse candidate.
The first referendum should be followed IMO they said 1 vote and now they're saying meh maybe the second will make the decision.....dude if you're having a vote the first vote should fucking count even thinking about a second referendum shakes the foundation of your government.
What do you think of the EU and more importantly the EU starting up it's own Armed Forces?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Fair point about 'yanks' and us thinking they are all the same Lyle. 👍🏼Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat do you think of the EU and more importantly the EU starting up it's own Armed Forces?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Anyway, I reckon that a new EU Army would have New and Interesting criteria to be promoted ..... ...... whoever runs away the fastest gets promoted?
The EU should start an army then we could get out of a useless NATO. Europe could be divided by the Russians and ChineseQuote:
Originally Posted by XFair point about 'yanks' and us thinking they are all the same Lyle. 👍🏼Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongWhat do you think of the EU and more importantly the EU starting up it's own Armed Forces?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Anyway, I reckon that a new EU Army would have New and Interesting criteria to be promoted ..... ...... whoever runs away the fastest gets promoted?
It is very bad and I always anticipated that May would block it somehow. She has to go and dare I say it the UK could well see Rees Mogg as Prime Minister. He is the only one speaking any sense lately and Jeremy Corbyn cannot make up his mind what he is doing.
"We are guided, above all by the principle... by a belief in the underlying unity of Europe...We have believed in ourselves as Englishmen & Europeans... We have believed in our fellow Europeans...And we have believed in the destiny of Europe"
- Sir Oswald Mosley leader of the British Union of Fascists
:scratchchin:
Guy Verhofstadt Leader of the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe & Member of European Parliament for Belgium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg7JwbJfWA
"member states are reluctant to transfer new sovereignty and powers to the European Union and we all know that the only way out of this crisis is a new transfer of powers to the European Union and to the European Institutions"
Anyone at all bothered by this in the least?
We will be out of Europe by March 2019 one way or the other. EU can say what they want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvrkE1zERO8
So criticizing mass migration will become "hate speech" and that will be a CRIMINAL OFFENSE and media outlets who give room to criticism of migration can be shut down.
https://media.giphy.com/media/MuTenSRsJ7TQQ/source.gif
You have to love how they refuse to debate but shut things down with 'law'. What a horrible place and those are the words of people living in modern Europe. I have a friend worried about the future for his kids. Does the EU not consider people like him or his family at all? Maybe he should be listened to rather than criminalised. Don't they call this fascism?
11th December will be the big vote in the House of Commons to see if this deal goes through.
Corbyn and May are even going to have a TV debate a few days earlier which is worthless and just a run for the general election that could happen next year.
The whole things is so politically charged and the issue is so divisive.
May wants this deal to go through because it is the best deal she has negotiated and her neck (future) is on the line.
Tory who do not like the deal will vote for it because it keeps them in power and they do not want a leadership challenge and a Corbyn government.
EU have accepted the deal and they get £39 billion when they could end up with nothing with no deal.
Labour want to vote the deal down because they believe they could negotiate a better deal and should be in power.
UKIP and Tory Bexiteers would prefer a no deal to this. DUP hate the Irish border, SNP want a 2nd referendum to have independence and this gives them a good excuse to do it.
Very interesting time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwD7LDKaYS0
"The decision for Parliament is whether they accept the deal that I and the Government have negotiated on behalf of the Euro...er..em..the United Kingdom... with the European Union."
.....vile woman
Tomorrow was going to be the big vote but Teresa May knew she was going to lose big so had delayed it until she can get a better deal from EU.
A big mess, 2 years wasted on a poor deal.
tee hee
<span style="color:#0000ff;">http://youtu.be/1NpExkViy6M