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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Reading a lot now about AJ's reaching and his suspect chin... creating now maybe a wave of support for Wlad.
Frankly, if Wlad wins so be it. Although I'd much rather it be by actually boxing and exploiting AJ's weaknesses, than by doing a Wlad-Povetkin Part II. If Wlad wants to add to his legacy, rather than subtract from it, he needs to actually fight... win or lose. If AJ's chin is really suspect, that makes two suspect chins in the ring.
TBH I just want to see a good, clean, action-filled HW championship fight. Tired of the crap we've been subjected to the last couple of decades.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
there wont be a wlad provetkin 2 in Britain, wlad holds more than a couple of times he will be warned/point take off
I honestly believe it will be a tragedy for the HWs if wlad wins, we have endured it for 10 years, its finally been toppled and the last thing the division needs is wlad back
another 3 or 4 hug fests in Germany where he is allowed to cheat to an extreme as long as the Germans go home happy?
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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erics44
there wont be a wlad provetkin 2 in Britain, wlad holds more than a couple of times he will be warned/point take off
I honestly believe it will be a tragedy for the HWs if wlad wins, we have endured it for 10 years, its finally been toppled and the last thing the division needs is wlad back
another 3 or 4 hug fests in Germany where he is allowed to cheat to an extreme as long as the Germans go home happy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjkNNDuAb9A
Poor erics...aww there there
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
If Wlad wins he should be given credit for it. Just like Joshua should be if he wins. If there's no fear of Wlads excessive holding happening in the UK then it would have to be considered a fair win.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
I hope Wlad wins, but not sure what he has left after that last showing and the long layoff. You can't get any better at this age. However, he has a lot of experience and if he can check that chin early. Wlad will always have his power, but is he willing to let his hands go? Not sure.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUbO1_oFCnU
Yeah, see what you guys mean about the chin. I bet Wlad can do that cleaner and harder.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
AJ got too personal with Whyte and was not concentarting on the job at hand instead talking and messing about against Dillon. When AJ got hit and wobbled he started to get back to his boxing and then he systematically broke up Whyte behind the jab and finished the fight with superb combinations.
AJ will not mess about against Wlad or make the same mistake again.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
If Joshua was fighting a bum he chin wouldn't be a issue. Unfortunately he's fighting a skilled champion. I can see Klitschko coming over the top with that right hand. Joshua has to stay busy keeping Wlad on his heels. If he stands in front of Wlad and allows him to get set. It could be a short night.
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41 year old ex-champs coming off a loss and layoff rarely beat young hungry undefeated 27 year old titlists.Wlad is still dangerous, but I've got Joshua. He's the total package. This victory will elevate him from titlist to Heavyweight Champion of the World.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Just watched " The gloves are off." Seriously, why do they bother when neither of them have anything to say? What a load of boring old shite! Now I know these programmes have no real bearing on the fight, but it's supposed to be entertaining. Pointless.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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Primo Carnera
Just watched " The gloves are off." Seriously, why do they bother when neither of them have anything to say? What a load of boring old shite! Now I know these programmes have no real bearing on the fight, but it's supposed to be entertaining. Pointless.
Johhny Nelson in starting to piss me off with his over hype of every ppv event. He did the same with Haye v Bellew making out they despised one another when they really were having a love fest behind the scenes.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Surprisingly I quite enjoyed watching them show genuine deep respect for each other in the gloves are off.
Reminded me a bit of Heat, Deniro and Pacino are fierce foes that respect each other. At the end Al takes Bob's hand as he slowly slips into the ether
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Yeah just shows you don't need all the trash talk and scuffles to get people interested. If a fight is good people will want to see it.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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Master
AJ got too personal with Whyte and was not concentarting on the job at hand instead talking and messing about against Dillon. When AJ got hit and wobbled he started to get back to his boxing and then he systematically broke up Whyte behind the jab and finished the fight with superb combinations.
AJ will not mess about against Wlad or make the same mistake again.
Bingo !! yes Joshua tried to kill Whyte because it was a grudge match and they had genuine dislike for each other. He got careless and got tagged , and he took a breather then fired right back .
He will show Wlad the respect he deserves as a former champ , I just want the best man to win.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
I see that this is now being shown in America.
I wonder how much AJ and Klit will make off this....even more so I wonder how much Eddie will make off it
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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brocktonblockbust
AJ is too aggressive from wladimir
Jaxx? Please say it's you.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Both guys look in fantastic shape. I hope it transpires in the ring to make for an awesome fight.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Terrific Lucozade advert, AJ's life in 60 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bQuW5cQs4U
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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Gandalf
AJ often with a dangerously low right hand....Wlad's jab/left hook combo could spell disaster for AJ if he doesn't keep his guard up
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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Fenster
In all fairness up until this fight you can sum up AJ's pro career in half that time.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Looking forwards to this one, and think Joshua will have been drilling all the different ways to get past that ramrod jab. Now we get to see if he's successful. Either Joshua KO or Klitschko on PTS are the two possible outcomes in my book.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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superheavyrhun
Looking forwards to this one, and think Joshua will have been drilling all the different ways to get past that ramrod jab. Now we get to see if he's successful. Either Joshua KO or Klitschko on PTS are the two possible outcomes in my book.
So the way you see things Wlad can't win by KO or TKO? Dude only has 53 wins by stoppage....ONLY 53 out of his 64 wins :rolleyes:
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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El Kabong
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superheavyrhun
Looking forwards to this one, and think Joshua will have been drilling all the different ways to get past that ramrod jab. Now we get to see if he's successful. Either Joshua KO or Klitschko on PTS are the two possible outcomes in my book.
So the way you see things Wlad
can't win by KO or TKO? Dude only has 53 wins by stoppage....ONLY 53 out of his 64 wins :rolleyes:
Put your eye rolling emoji away for just one moment. He hasn't even thrown a competitive punch in 18 months, and is years away from his last KO win. Father Time catches us all buddy, and I don't think he will have the power to take out Joshua. His best chance of victory is keeping him on the end of the jab, being really boring and not letting Joshua within range to launch. It's the long game of nothing for Wladimir.
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superheavyrhun
Put your eye rolling emoji away for just one moment. He hasn't even thrown a competitive punch in 18 months, and is years away from his last KO win. Father Time catches us all buddy, and I don't think he will have the power to take out Joshua. His best chance of victory is keeping him on the end of the jab, being really boring and not letting Joshua within range to launch. It's the long game of nothing for Wladimir.
And every fighter will say "The last thing to go is power"
I'm not saying Wlad WILL win by KO, but to just not see any way he could...that's silly
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Also we have never seen AJ go deep. So there is the possibility of him getting stopped due to that for me.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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Alpha
Also we have never seen AJ go deep. So there is the possibility of him getting stopped due to that for me.
True but also his chin. Can he take a big shot? If you guys recall I was the one who picked Tyson Fury to beat Wlad. Early on I picked Joshua to win. I've been watching film of Joshua and I don't like what I see. I mean I don't like what I see vs Wlad. He's a sucker for a straight right from a tall man. He's not busy enough and has to be vs Wlad. Fury was a guy that kept that jab in his face and forced the fight. Plus Wlad couldn't grab or clinch Fury. He can and will vs Joshua. I hope I'm wrong I really want to see Joshua win.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Also I have never seen AJ fight anyone with a jab like Klitschko's. Forget everything else that Wlad possesses; his jab alone probably wins him the fight.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Wladimir Klitschko Net Worth: $60 million
Not bad for a boxer who, according to Teddy Atlas, has "no chin, no skills and no courage".
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Teddy ATLAS said that??
.... and here I thought I was just a hater. ;D ;)
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Teddy Atlas says what he wants because he's a fireman
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
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El Kabong
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superheavyrhun
Put your eye rolling emoji away for just one moment. He hasn't even thrown a competitive punch in 18 months, and is years away from his last KO win. Father Time catches us all buddy, and I don't think he will have the power to take out Joshua. His best chance of victory is keeping him on the end of the jab, being really boring and not letting Joshua within range to launch. It's the long game of nothing for Wladimir.
And every fighter will say "The last thing to go is power"
I'm not saying Wlad WILL win by KO, but to just not see any way he could...that's silly
I think if Wlad is winning on points it is late in the fight he will use his experience and go for the decision. Wlad would be silly to take a chance against a puncher and Wlad is not silly.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Ive got a feeling wlads gonna knock him out, around 9 or 10
or 8
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Anyone see the BBC doc last night? I was a bit concerned by some of it to be honest, the way McCracken was talking to him, the kind of things he was constantly being reminded to do, not do. I thought he was talking to him like he was fragile. Maybe he does get chinned out in sparring every other week.
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
People are talking about Wlad like he's in his prime, he's not and he's far from it.
Your only as good as your last fight and his last fight was pathetic, he hardly threw a punch at all and looked to me to be a man who no longer wants to fight.
Since Emanual Steward died he's not the same fighter, hasn't fought well at all in 2 and a half years and is 41 years old.
He's facing a Young, Big, Hungry, Super Fast KO merchant with dynamite Power who won't be phased at all by the venue (already fought there) or the occassion and who he cannot and will not be allowed to jab and grab all night.
All i see is Wlad getting KO'd, Stopped or pulled out by his corner inside the distance after taking a proper beating.
I'd be amazed if Wlad pulls this off and just can't see it
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Re: Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko - 29/4/17 Wembley Stadium
Only way I can see for Wlad if is if he does fuck all for first half of fight and let's Joshua gas down the stretch. But Joshua isn't smaller so maybe this won't work...
I hope Wlad has something left and look forward to finding out
I'll stick to my original if gun to head prediction. Joshua in 3
People should remember I'm good at predicting the heavyweights. From day 1 of Audley Harrison's career I told everyone he'd be found out within 20 fights
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Memphis
Anyone see the BBC doc last night? I was a bit concerned by some of it to be honest, the way McCracken was talking to him, the kind of things he was constantly being reminded to do, not do. I thought he was talking to him like he was fragile. Maybe he does get chinned out in sparring every other week.
I watched it. I think that's just McRacken's demeanour. I think he was the same with Froch if I remember right.