Fury v Wilder - Staples Center, Los Angeles 1/12/18

yeah before that gets misread that was a joking kind of a post made with a degree of affection for Tito but then again that was about an hour or two before what happened over on the Caravan thread.

As far as Wilder goes he is going to have to try to catch Tyson Fury in the first six rounds or it's all over for the bronze bomber. That is why in the 7th round he is going to go For Broke and he's going to get caught with that uppercut that I keep talking about. when he goes for broke with those windmill shots and he is off balance like a drunken heavyweight version of Tommy Hearns in the third round of his fight with Marvin Hagler the quick handed Tyson Fury is going to pounce and knock his ass out with a counter uppercut from hell

Sounds like Ortiz' opponent may be Kauffman on the undercard.

Cough-man VS Diabetic man?

Sounds like a doozy

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/bo...showdown-video



Of course. ;D

The obligatory "I might retire" line. It certainly took long enough.

You've got a wonderful combination here. A fighter who loves to talk and mess with the press..... and a tabloid desperate to splash any headlines it can to get attention.

Yeah.... Fury will retire. And I've got a beachfront condo in Nebraska to sell in case any of those sportswriters are interested.

Boxing is so comical sometimes.

Tyson Fury is training like a beast in Big Bear and getting into great condition. I think he is a man of extremes and when he goes for it, he puts everything into it.


Conversely when he loses the plot, he really lets it all go.

Tyson Fury was born with the beast in him. It comes out at key moments in time, like this. He is going to shock the world which is at best giving him a points decision that will "stink out the place". Rather, he is training grimly and with resolve for something more impressive.

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Tyson Fury was born with the beast in him. It comes out at key moments in time, like this. He is going to shock the world which is at best giving him a points decision that will "stink out the place". Rather, he is training grimly and with resolve for something more impressive.

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Your name is familiar,don’t I know you? ;D

I'm excited for this fight, I will watch it if I can.
However I will not be paying PPV money for the privilege.

Scary looking at Tyson's earlier fights, also questions about his motivation and mental state.

No mistake, this is not going to be fight of the year.

I don't want none of this "points decision" Michael Jackson moonwalking backtracking from the 1 million 7th round KO predictions.

That's already cast in concrete.

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Tyson Fury was born with the beast in him. It comes out at key moments in time, like this. He is going to shock the world which is at best giving him a points decision that will "stink out the place". Rather, he is training grimly and with resolve for something more impressive.

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Your name is familiar,don’t I know you? ;D

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Yes cousin, we had zeppole in Catania

Classic Fury describing when he asked AJ to step outside and have it on the cobbles 😁

“I know you have to possess balls of steel to step in the ring with Tyson Fury and they (team Joshua) don’t. They possess fannies, they possess m****s. He seems pretty spirited doesn’t he? But when I stood face to face with him and asked him – do you want to get outside (and fight)? His a*** started flapping like that. He s*** himself. It doesn’t matter what weight I was at the time. I wasn’t in shape but I would have taken him outside and slit his c*** right in. If a man said that to me I don’t care if I was unfit or not he’d be outside and punched. He’d have to fight. Simple. I don’t care who he is or what he is. I said that to him and he didn’t want to know.”

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Classic Fury describing when he asked AJ to step outside and have it on the cobbles 😁

“I know you have to possess balls of steel to step in the ring with Tyson Fury and they (team Joshua) don’t. They possess fannies, they possess m****s. He seems pretty spirited doesn’t he? But when I stood face to face with him and asked him – do you want to get outside (and fight)? His a*** started flapping like that. He s*** himself. It doesn’t matter what weight I was at the time. I wasn’t in shape but I would have taken him outside and slit his c*** right in. If a man said that to me I don’t care if I was unfit or not he’d be outside and punched. He’d have to fight. Simple. I don’t care who he is or what he is. I said that to him and he didn’t want to know.”

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It's from this interview with Brendan Schaub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Tw4HjYMWU

He is very likeable. Makes me want to see him win. But I want Wilder to win too. Just a really good fight.

Mark Anthony Barriga is supposed to be on the undercard in an IBF miminumweight title fight.

Fury is definitely smart and admitted that beating Wlad was a boxing lesson. He did it far more intelligently than Joshua but it was boring. I think he will choose boring against Wilder as he lacks real pop and Wilder can be outboxed. It's a curious matchup and could be a bit dull, but the tension will always be there with you wondering if Fury can keep it together over 12 or if Wilder will land the bomb and windmill him. It is fascinating.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...ny-joshua-deal


Hearn wants to negotiate terms for an AJ-Wilder fight before December 1st? GTFOOH. I think the dude's feeling a little butthurt that AJ's out of the heavyweight limelight if only temporarily, as the Wilder-Fury fight looms. He's also nuts if he thinks Wilder's team is going to distract themselves from the task at hand. And if..... Wilder were to wipe the floor with Fury..... Hearn's claim that the terms depend on how good the fight did are bullsh*t. If Wilder wipes out Fury, the subsequent Wilder-AJ fight will need no promotion. It'll sell itself and if Hearn decides to play footsies with Wilder, it'll be looked at as an excuse not to face Wilder. Not that anybody would blame him. ;)

I heard Fury's VADA testing has been negative which is great news.

It's being reported they've sold just 7000 tickets.

7000!!! These clowns have zero fans outside the boxing world. For perspective, Whyte-Chisora sold double in one day!!!

Hope not but... an "injury" pull out is coming.

Fury is in a difficult situation.

He probably can't win on the scorecards in Wilder's home country, and he's not a big puncher. And there will likely be a dodgy California referee like Jack Reiss helping Wilder.

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Fury is in a difficult situation.

He probably can't win on the scorecards in Wilder's home country, and he's not a big puncher. And there will likely be a dodgy California referee like Jack Reiss helping Wilder.

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If Fury can get a decision in Germany, he can get one anywhere.

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Fury is in a difficult situation.

He probably can't win on the scorecards in Wilder's home country, and he's not a big puncher. And there will likely be a dodgy California referee like Jack Reiss helping Wilder.

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If Fury can get a decision in Germany, he can get one anywhere.

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There was never any controversial judging for Klitschko's fights. Can you remember any?

However, the US has become by far the #1 country for robberies and shady refereeing in recent years, with the UK solidly in the #2 spot.

Golub vs Clark
Kovalev vs Ward
GGG vs Canelo
Browne vs Kaladjdzic
Herrera vs Danny Garcia
Loma vs Salido (obviously dodgy referee, questionable scorecards)
Hooker vs Perez

And a few years back:

Pacquiao-Bradley I
Holyfield-Lewis I
Tiberi-Toney
Kessler-Ward (ref let Ward use illegal tactics such as headbutts to blind Kessler)
Castillo-Mayweather I
Sturm-De La Hoya

and many, many more.

And American judges DO favor Wilder.

Luis Ortiz clearly won several rounds he wasn't given credit for, as did Artur Szpilka.

Proportionally Germany are worse, Ottke, Sturm and Povetkin come to mind.

Germany and the UK pale in comparison to the WBC Vegas-Mexico-Texas Mafia. But this doesn't apply to Wilder.

Fury has nothing to fear from the LA judges.

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Proportionally Germany are worse, Ottke, Sturm and Povetkin come to mind.

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People just don't like Germany because of WW 2.

Povetkin's only controversial win was over a German boxer in Germany. Klitschko's illegal tactics against him should have been penalized, but the fight was in Moscow (go figure).

Sturm has won some questionable decisions, but only one was as bad as when he was robbed against De La Hoya.

If you actually watch Ottke's fights, the only one that was really dodgy was against Reid.

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Proportionally Germany are worse, Ottke, Sturm and Povetkin come to mind.

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People just don't like Germany because of WW 2.

Povetkin's only controversial win was over a German boxer in Germany. Klitschko's illegal tactics against him should have been penalized, but the fight was in Moscow (go figure).

Sturm has won some questionable decisions, but only one was as bad as when he was robbed against De La Hoya.

If you actually watch Ottke's fights, the only one that was really dodgy was against Reid.

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Wlad should have been DQ’d for that povetkin fight

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Wlad should have been DQ’d for that povetkin fight

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I've been called Klitschko's biggest fan on the internet, I was once even invited to his training camp to meet him and his team by his training camp manager.

But it's true - in that fight, Wlad should have been disqualified for his use of Andre Ward tactics.

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It's being reported they've sold just 7000 tickets.

7000!!! These clowns have zero fans outside the boxing world. For perspective, Whyte-Chisora sold double in one day!!!

Hope not but... an "injury" pull out is coming.

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Add two fighters who arent widely known outside boxing circles to some terrible marketing a 3 city promo tour that happened way too early and the fact it's in L.A. when Wilder was maybe just starting to call NYC home and build up a fan base and it's no surprise.
Strange choice having this in LA.
The staples centre holds just over 20,000 so it's gonna be an embarrassment if the place doesn't even sell out.
This is a little over 3 weeks away too.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

It's being reported they've sold just 7000 tickets.

7000!!! These clowns have zero fans outside the boxing world. For perspective, Whyte-Chisora sold double in one day!!!

Hope not but... an "injury" pull out is coming.

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Weren't they reporting a million dollars in sales in the first 25 minutes? If it's true then it seems that no one has bought a ticket since then.

Totally agree on LA being a terrible choice. Other than the LA Dodgers and the LA Lakers, LA fans aren't exactly known for being too feverish about anything. Vegas and NYC were the only logical choices for this fight. Also agree that the promotional effort has been terrible and ill-timed. And yes, it WILL be embarrassing to see a less-than-sold-out Staples Center on fight night if it happens that way.

I feel sorry for the fighters themselves, both of whom deserve better. Fury for having the balls (so far) to face Wilder... and Wilder for accepting the challenge. Slightly pissed that Hearn gets to gloat over there, and will surely come back with an even more ridiculous offer to Wilder, should Wilder dispose of Fury and aim toward AJ. For every empty seat in Staples, Hearn will probably knock off 5% of the purse.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

It's being reported they've sold just 7000 tickets.

7000!!! These clowns have zero fans outside the boxing world. For perspective, Whyte-Chisora sold double in one day!!!

Hope not but... an "injury" pull out is coming.

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Add two fighters who arent widely known outside boxing circles to some terrible marketing a 3 city promo tour that happened way too early and the fact it's in L.A. when Wilder was maybe just starting to call NYC home and build up a fan base and it's no surprise.
Strange choice having this in LA.
The staples centre holds just over 20,000 so it's gonna be an embarrassment if the place doesn't even sell out.
This is a little over 3 weeks away too.

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I don't agree or disagree with you, but it's amazing how different people's thoughts are on this. a couple of weeks ago ykadamaja (??) started a thread saying how Brilliantly the fight had been marketed, "Like a real big fight!"
if I've said it once , I've said it a million times, I'll believe this fight is on when the bell rings for round 1.

The promotion has been excellent - three city tour, major US sports talk radio/podcasts/shows, constant social media in their training camps.

It's not in Vegas because they wasn't wanted, not big enough, proved by the pathetic ticket sales, why would they possibly choose anywhere in America other than Vegas if they really thought it was a BIG money fight?

And these clowns, their fans, Frank Warren and team Wilder were slating Joshua for selling only, only, only 75,000 tickets against Povetkin!

Why have the purses never been revealed? How much is Wilder getting? Is it anywhere close to that Joshua money he turned down?

They used Joshua's name to sell this fight but it's backfired.

You say the promotion's been great. Ykadaka... says it's been terrible. If you go solely by results, the promotion has sucked. Maybe the effort has been put in, but it hasn't worked. Second-guessing's the name of the game, I guess.

Blame it on jaded fans... blame it on location... blame it on whatever except the fighters themselves. They're the ones putting themselves out there and willing to fight.

Hearn must be laughing all the way to the bank, no doubt working on a lower offer than he offered the first time, as we speak.

Still... let's say Wilder beats Fury... and Hearn comes back with a pathetic offer based on Wilder-Fury's numbers in LA. That wouldn't look too good for Hearn, IMO.

I meant the effort to promote the fight has been great. They did a three city media tour and have never stopped doing shows - the biggest USA/British breakfast TV shows, every major radio station, constant media access for all the big online outlets, the Joe Rogan interview alone has 2 million hits and was used for media articles all over the world.

The only reason the fight hasn't sold is the general public don't give a shit about these clowns. Wilder has no fans in America (relative) and Fury is a cult figure in the UK, he's never headlined a major show and bores everyone to death inside the ring.

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I meant the effort to promote the fight has been great. They did a three city media tour and have never stopped doing shows - the biggest USA/British breakfast TV shows, every major radio station, constant media access for all the big online outlets, the Joe Rogan interview alone has 2 million hits and was used for media articles all over the world.

The only reason the fight hasn't sold is the general public don't give a shit about these clowns. Wilder has no fans in America (relative) and Fury is a cult figure in the UK, he's never headlined a major show and bores everyone to death inside the ring.

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And like you said, nobody has ever mentioned how much they are earning.
Add to this, U.K. PPV Figures at 4am will be about as good as Eubank Jr. On ITV PPV v Yildirim.

How much is the Showtime PPV costing in the US?
Anyone know?
I think it's about £20 In the UK on BT sports.

So, I just re-watched the Fury vs Klitschko fight to get an idea for how the fight with Wilder may look.
Let me just say that this fight was.. underwhelming.

Does anyone herehave a least favoite roud in that fight?

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So, I just re-watched the Fury vs Klitschko fight to get an idea for how the fight with Wilder may look.
Let me just say that this fight was.. underwhelming.

Does anyone herehave a least favoite roud in that fight?

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The first round where Fury puts his hands behind his back?

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So, I just re-watched the Fury vs Klitschko fight to get an idea for how the fight with Wilder may look.
Let me just say that this fight was.. underwhelming.

Does anyone herehave a least favoite roud in that fight?

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I'd have to re-watch it, as I slipped into a boredom-induced coma about two rounds into the fight.

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So, I just re-watched the Fury vs Klitschko fight to get an idea for how the fight with Wilder may look.
Let me just say that this fight was.. underwhelming.

Does anyone herehave a least favoite roud in that fight?

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I haven't watched it since it was on live but I think the 12th was the one with the most action so I'd say 12th.