ruiz hands are quick as fuck me he probably gives all big three a fight grin hell cause of it.maybe my friend was fucked up but be six ruiz was a 54 go 1 underdog s o me where and if that's the case I would have put a tenner down on him
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ruiz hands are quick as fuck me he probably gives all big three a fight grin hell cause of it.maybe my friend was fucked up but be six ruiz was a 54 go 1 underdog s o me where and if that's the case I would have put a tenner down on him
Out of the three, Fury is the most mobile and too crafty to get caught like that against Ruiz.
Ruiz can do the same in a rematch against Joshua. Fast counters and toughness wearing Joshua down.
It was a great display and people say short notice for Joshua, but what about Ruiz? It was great to see a HW throw several punches after being hit and just keep on driving like he did. Joshua did keep getting up, but he likely knew he would keep going down had it continued. His head doesn't move and those hands were doing a Calzaghe on him. He was kind of Lacy'ed in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
I'm shocked, but not shocked to my socks. Ya know the feeling?
I was shocked when I heard it in the morning. I thought it was a formality and did not think it was worth staying up for.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamaja
I read on a Twitter comment that Joshua fasted due to it being Ramadan. is he a Muslim and a practicing one? if that's the case and they choose to schedule the fight when they did he and his team are nuts
He could be, he was praying on the floor afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
Watch the fight 3 times. Whenever Joshua would land a big shot he come to Ruiz punching range. Those counter left and overhand rights caught him again and again. He kept trying to get back at Ruiz. Instead of boxing at long range letting Ruiz come to him and not the other way around.
Doesn't Sound true to me ......Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
There have been many excellent Muslim fighters throughout history, and Ramadan has never effected them.
Plus, there are many legitimate reasons why Muslims can be exempted from fasting, and being an athlete is accepted as one of them.
I don't think he is Muslim anyway. His family has a Nigerian background but they are Christian Nigerians. There is no love lost between Christians and Muslims in Nigeria so it's very rare for anyone to cross over. AJ is British brought up, so he may be more open to changing but his family might find it difficult to accept.
With his wish to promote his brand to sell more deodorant and cornflakes , being a Muslim probably isn't helpful in this day and age.
i can see why he might want to keep it quiet ...... but it doesn't sound too true
AJ was photographed praying in a mosque a few years ago so it could be true.
I know for gospel that they changed his training routine loads for this fight and brought in sports scientists etc from Under Armour and Navy Seal soldiers.
He had nothing in the tank at all after the first KO.
Reminded me of Bruno when he used to get hurt, he just became a sitting duck with his arms stupidly low and zero head movement.
He was even heard saying to Rob McCracken " why am I feeling like this" between rounds then asking him "what's Ruiz gonna do next"
Odd things to say.
Personally I think AJ could be finished.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.c...t-9739219/amp/
Had to hey technically I was right :p, Ruiz Jr was ahead at the time of the stoppage ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Helluva fight on re watch. Breaking a guy down is accurate and Ruiz proved a seriously underrated boxer, he kept him measured throughout. What I worry the most now are the alphabet boys and when does the stripping or fast mandatories begin? Division and plans have been turned right on their heads.
Another feather in the cap of Manny Robles, the trainer of Ruiz, and son of the legendary Chato Robles. He is a great guy and very astute; he certainly made the right choice when he walked away from Breazeale some time back.
I agree with Smash.
I think it could be over for AJ at the top. Wasn't a one punch haymaker that finished him he was dismantled.
The mountain he has to climb mentally is fucking huge.
Outcome when fighter v athlete
It is what boxing is all about. No team mates or manager to blame, on the night the outcome is never nailed on, and that uncertainty, however unlikely, is what keeps people tuning in and turning up. Joe is right a lot of credit goes to Robles and his fight plan, but also his ability to get Ruiz to believe in himself. On the night Ruiz had that focus and it was no one punch fluke that put those belts in his hands. Ruiz executed the gameplan thru adversity. He got clocked and yet did not let that make him lose his focus. Joshua may have always been susceptible to an overhand right but spotting a flaw an executing a strategy to make someone pay for it, is a different thing all together.
It does not make Joshua a hype job or a mere bodybuilder like Wilder and Fury have been saying it makes him a pro at the top of his game. That is why he is in dangerous situations everytime he gets into a ring with hungry well trained professional fighters who want to take his head off. He does not have to become a Kiltschko tribute act to be successful and regain his position but he does have a mountain to climb. The advantage he has is that he has climbed that mountain several times and can do so again. Ruiz knows how to make the most out of what he has and make that work for him. Joshua has been fortunate, or unfortunate enough, to get by by sometimes not always fighting smart and opting to box and instead getting into a war because the guy has heavy hands. AJ does not always have perfect technique or one punch stopping power but he has been able to make people wary and then follow thru on those heavy warnings with a decent finishing instinct. When Ruiz was able to negate that tactic of Joshua he was all out of answers. He was never going to compete with speed and combos and when Ruiz got back up he lost belief even in his ability to defend himself, let alone install any fear and wariness into Andy and then capitalize on that hesitation.
He is not going to be transformed into a speed machine in four months. He is not going to become a Manny Steward fighter either or develop a jab that nobody can get beyond in 16 weeks. It is a big challenge for McCracken if he is going to devise a strategy that gives Joshua the ability to make Ruiz think twice before marching in and holding the centre of the ring.
Respect to Ruiz and it is great after all this time that Mexico, without whom boxing would be a far poorer and duller sport, now has a Heavyweight Champion to add to their great boxing tradition. Respect to Joshua for putting all the belts on the line and going to America to do so when he could easily have stayed at home for the rest of his career. It was beyond stupid to hand the belts to Ruiz and that condescending attitude, however well meaning was surely evidence of his bootlaces unraveling long before he stepped in the ring. Do not get me wrong, he did not slip up or trip up, he had those belts taken away after a solid hammering from a more than worthy opponent, but he was asking for it the moment he lost sight of the fact that anyone getting themselves in a position to step into the ring opposite him, deserved his full focus and attention.
Even Charles Martin would have lasted longer than two rounds against the AJ who fought Ruiz. The rematch,if Joshua does not regain that focus, may simply be a re-run with an even more decisive finish. If AJ can get back into the centre of the ring and dictate things next time, the potential is there for him to climb back up the mountain. Whatever happens it may make the likelihood of Fury and/or Wider fighting Ruiz or AJ for those belts much more realistic and that is something to celebrate.
The Simpsons "Predictive Programming" ;D;D;D
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When I read posts describing what AJ should have done or needs to do next time, the above comes to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Some funny posts here, just perused & a few standouts.
1. It's quite handy for AJ, he might be able to get Ruiz to give him a lift home in his Uber after the fight
2. I'm not sure where this confidence in ruiz is coming from, ruiz is going to be splatted :S
3. I just think that there’s no way Ruiz wins. I don’t see the knockout and even if he bests AJ, he won’t get the decision
4. AJ in under six once he starts land clean it's good night chaps.
5. Can't blame Ruiz for taking this fight. It'll keep him in Twinkies for a couple of decades.
6. AJ is about to beat down a jovial skilled Winnie The Pooh
& some guy name Slimtrae said:
The only way it would change if one of the big 3 performances doesn't live up to par. With that being said AJ UD Ruiz.
He was wrong.
Forgot to say. Respect to @Dark Lord Al for trusting his instincts and backing the underdog. I expect that comes from being around boxing a long time. I could not have spotted it in a month of Sundays.
May go out to celebrate today :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Theresa May will not be celebrating any time soon. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlMay go out to celebrate today :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
She can always fall back on her panto skills as the witch.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTheresa May will not be celebrating any time soon. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlMay go out to celebrate today :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Or Skeletor
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AJ's not overrated. Most of the guys who AJ has beaten I'd STRONGLY fancy to beat Ruiz (Whyte, Wlad, Povetkin even Brezeale and Parker who AJ beat has already beat Ruiz albeit in a close fight)
Everyone is jumping on the "He ain't sh*t" bandwagon.
He just had a bad day in office and went into a new territory unprepared with so much pressure on his shoulders. He needs to shake things up, be his normal mean self and throw the humble/nice guy in the bushes.
AJ is a guy who struggles with short fighters, Ruiz is the most terrible match up you can put infront of him.
He's a good role model for achieving so much 10 years after picking up the gloves.
Eddie Hearn worryingly reveals Anthony Joshua ‘doesn’t remember anything after the third round’ from Andy Ruiz Jr loss
The former unified heavyweight world champion was knocked down four times against Andy Ruiz Jr at Madison Square Garden and it seems like it's had a lasting effect
It’s been a week since Anthony Joshua surrendered his world titles to Andy Ruiz Jr at Madison Square Garden in one of the biggest shocks in boxing history.
Joshua was stopped in the seventh round after being put down four times by the Mexican-American; twice in the third round and twice in the seventh.
The 29-year-old Brit had put Ruiz down in the third, but after steaming in to finish the job once Ruiz answered the count, he got caught with a nasty right hook behind his right ear.
That did all kinds of damage to Joshua that he never recovered from and his promoter Eddie Hearn has revealed the Watford-born star doesn’t remember anything after the third round from that loss.
Hearn gave an update on Joshua’s well-being after the former champ was housebound on doctor’s orders for the early part of the week, telling DAZN: “The doctors didn’t tell us anything major. He doesn’t remember anything from the third round.
“In fact, he has taken a little bit of positivity from the fact he managed to go four more rounds after that because he said his senses weren’t there.
https://talksport.com/wp-content/upl...60&quality=100
“He got clipped with a shot round the side of the head and didn’t really recover. He got up four times, even with the stoppage at the end, it was 100 percent the right stoppage.
“But at the end, we were watching it last night, he goes yes I can continue, goes to walk forward and the referee just nudges him and then he goes back on the ropes and then he stops it. I’m actually glad he did because Anthony would have kept going all night.”
Joshua has already invoked his rematch clause with Ruiz Jr and the clash is set to take place in the UK in either October or November.
That’s despite Ruiz Jr believing he can have the fight moved to Mexico or America and he can earn mega money being the champion in this fight.
Contracts are contracts, after all.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/5...-ruiz-jr-loss/
This short video interview with Johnny Nelson will age well. Shortly after the Ruiz-Joshua fight was announced.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJT4K7lE4yU
Over time I've learned that even with a supposed 'sure' thing, there will always be someone who says maybe 'not' so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
Even Tyson Douglass found a Nelson in that fight. One bettor had placed $1,500 on Douglas at 38-to-1 for a $57,000 payday.” Now was this guy for real? or just had money to burn. I dunno.
What I take from Nelson is relative to a one fight scenario. He's not claiming Ruiz is going to keep shocking the world, rather how AJ has to stay focus and not let Andy's full blown belly deter him.
Anyone can be a contrarian, however Nelson has been on tv for years as a pundit and boxer.
He was also able to give reasons why, not just simply stating a one sentence opinion.
True. meant no disrespect.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
The thing is, he could simply have been bigging up a fight for sky, knowing he had to work extra hard to get people to buy into a "butterbean" type of opponent.
Ruiz is getting ten million for this fight. I would have told Joshua people to go suck it. He could fight Tyson Fury for double that.
But a year ago he was broke and wanted to quit the sport. Top Rank businessQuote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Champ got to meet the President of Mexico. Seems to be taking the new media lime light pretty well staying humble. http://youtu.be/3Hc0zZX9OzU