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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Gandalf
I have known plenty of black and Asian people in my life
Is that supposed to impress me ?
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
but Dennis is nothing like any of them.
How do you know ?
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Gandalf
I shared a house for a year with black girl at University and she did not have any of these hangups.
When, or if, black people begin , lynching, raping, oppressing, exploiting, shooting, jailing, whipping, maiming, torturing, evangelizing, robbing, stereotyping, bullying, bombing, segregating, building highways and thruways to dislocate businesses, communities and neighborhoods; creating SUN-DOWN towns, experimenting on, discriminating against, prohibiting, murdering, holding back/controlling in every imaginable way while hating white ppl en mass via de jure and de facto racism for 100's of years, then and only then you saying a black person has racial hangups will make sense.
Secondly.
You assume that black people always speak their minds to white people.
Most don't.
Black people are actually reluctant to allege racism, be it on the job, or in schools, or anywhere else.
Far from “playing the race card” at the drop of a hat, black folks typically “stuff” their experiences racism, only making an allegation because of many incidents have transpired.
White denial has long trumped claims of racism.
Because what would have happened had she have went as hard on white people and racism as I do ?
I tell you.
You would have ran to you're white landlord, white boss, white dorm officer and got her kicked out of the house in a minute.
That's how white supremacy works in that it creates a dependency for the people it's shits on
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Gandalf
I mean she studied well at school, got into University, did a Masters degree, had no issues sharing a house with a bunch of white people,
Once again.
You assume that black people always speak their minds to white people.
Most don't.
She knew most whites are so closed-minded about race and get upset about it so easily that it becomes a waste of breath. Then, partly from this engineered silence, you conclude that it was no big deal.
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Gandalf
had no issues finding work to help pay for the costs of the then increasingly expensive tertiary education.
I'm pretty sure you know that a white person with a criminal record is more likely to get the job than black person without one.
I'm pretty sure you know this.
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Gandalf
I might point out IQ data, but I also constantly point out that many people will be way above average and do very well like she did and the black professors I have come across. Why are they not making excuses constantly? It is because they have agency and have made decisions that make sense. Denilson is a funny one and so 21st century with all the pictures and flipping from one point to the next so randomly, but then he will flip it and deny that race exists, so if he wants it that way, then he might as well deny that race exists and stop going on about it.
Are white people smarter than black people ? And if so why are they ? Do white people have different brains than black people ? And does that make black people a sub species of mankind ?
And finally if black people are an inferior race - then what do you do with people that you claim are inferior ?
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Gandalf
It clearly does exist and there are statistical group differences, but I honestly don't see an issue with that. You must have a serious chip on your shoulder to be threatened by the notion that people might have higher IQ's than others, or that somebody else might be better than you at something. We are all inferior to someone else in some way or another and we have to get used to it or else work on it. Damn, 1970'S Al Pacino was better looking than me. Where is the noose? James Toney even approaching 50 could knock me out. Damn, where is the rat poison. Just life and the way it is.
Are white people smarter than black people ? And if so why are they ? Do white people have different brains than black people ? And does that make black people a sub species of mankind ?
And finally if black people are an inferior race - then what do you do with people that you claim are inferior ?
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Originally Posted by
Denilson-The-Comeback
TitoFan is an Injun?
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
Right Dennis, so a black woman who chose to live in a house with 3 white men was someone who who probably had race etched deep within her bones and thus would never share the horrors of constant day in day out racism? Erm, it is a possibility. Or else it could simply have been that she did not have the hang ups that you do and had no qualms living with a bunch of relatively friendly white people.
She experienced no racism among us, was a regular drinking partner, and I don't recall her experiencing any racism on nights out or anything of the sort. You would think drunk people would bring out all that hidden racism, right. But no. Like I say she found work relatively easily and she was academically capable. I think though you might share the same skin color with her, you and her have nothing in common beyond that. She would listen to your bile and think you are an idiot because though you bring up salient points at times, you are at heart a spiteful, agenda driven idiot.
Do I think she was of an inferior race? No, of course not. She was a capable human being I treated as an individual and she was smart, snappy and funny. Why would I have any reason to think that her IQ might be in question? I don't even see things in terms of superiority in the way you want me to. Everyone is an individual, but if there are patterns be it via race, class, gender or whatever, then we should not be scared by it. I am not scared of exploring concepts and it is harmful that people are encouraged not to think about them due to dishonest claims of racism. I am not sure you even read my posts, Dennis and you are extremely hung up on the group differences question.
You want to see racism because I highlight well recognized data and simply say 'Hey it is not all racism, there is also a lack of agency'. You REFUSE to recognize the agency angle. It is all evil white men, but white men are not even the smartest, not even the best behaved, kind of average when compared to other groups on the whole. Why am I not upset by the Ashkenazi Jew IQ data, why am I not frothing at the mouth screaming about the injustice. Probably because I am not much of a Hitler.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Originally Posted by
Denilson-The-Comeback
All white people say they're not racist.
Wrong, Sherlock. Plenty of white people admit to being racist. For being "all-knowing" you certainly drop the ball on a lot of shit. Many white people don't give a damn about you knowing they're racist. They'll tell it to your face.
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Denilson-The-Comeback
In every era, black folks said they were the victims of racism and we were right. In every era, SOME whites have said the problem was exaggerated, and you have been wrong.
There..... fixed it for ya. ;)
Of course, I don't expect that correction to penetrate that 12-foot concrete barricade between your ears.
So go on. Continue talking for EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON ON EARTH.
The rest of us will just sit here and laugh at you.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
Right Dennis, so a black woman who chose to live in a house with 3 white men was someone who who probably had race etched deep within her bones and thus would never share the horrors of constant day in day out racism? Erm, it is a possibility. Or else it could simply have been that she did not have the hang ups that you do and had no qualms living with a bunch of relatively friendly white people.
Who mentioned the word "Horrors"
My point is. She had to be on her best behaviour because you would ran to your white dorm officer, or white superior had she not and got her kicked out. That is my point
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
She experienced no racism among us, was a regular drinking partner, and I don't recall her experiencing any racism on nights out or anything of the sort.
Well that's what you are telling me.
But this is coming from a man who believes that your more likely to get AIDS from black people and black people are the most violent ppl on earth and black people are intellectually inferior to other races. So I've gotta side eye everything you say in regards to black ppl.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/BJVJx...&rid=giphy.gif
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Gandalf
You would think drunk people would bring out all that hidden racism, right. But no.
Look.
Personal affinity for a black person says nothing about how one views the larger group from which those individuals come.
There were many whites who supported enslavement and segregation and yet, managed to conjure personal kindness for individual black people on a case-by-case basis.
Whites who claim to have black friends (and perhaps even do), and yet view the larger black community with disdain, or view their black friends as exceptions to a general and more negative rule (like you believes you're more likely to get AIDS from black people and black people are the most violent and black people are intellectually inferior to other races) are indeed racists.
I knew white ppl growing up at school and university. So what ? Didn't stop the system of white supremacy. The white kids would be punished less harshly than the blk kids for minor sh*t. The black kids were tracked into basic and remedial level classes, while most all the white kids were tracked into advanced and honors classes, even though they showed no more promise (and sometimes quite a bit less) than us. At any careers days the employeers would be falling over themselves to recruit the white kids and just basically ignore the black kids. He'll I noticed that as a kid.
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
Like I say she found work relatively easily and she was academically capable. I think though you might share the same skin color with her, you and her have nothing in common beyond that. She would listen to your bile and think you are an idiot because though you bring up salient points at times, you are at heart a spiteful, agenda driven idiot.
She achieved in spite of the system not because of it.
And that burns you up...doesn't it ?
White supremacists don’t really believe what they’re saying–not deep down. You see blk people excelling in any arena where we are given full and equal opportunity (not enough arenas, to be sure, but still) you see a world in which global white supremacy is everywhere being challenged. In which the white world’s militaries are incapable of subduing a rag-tag bunch of insurgents,
By lashing out and you saying that black people are the ones with aids, black people are the ones who are intellectually inferior, black people are the violent ones, you can protect yourself from the insecurity that truly gnaws away at you.
For if there is one thing I’ve learned in the 36 years I've been on the planet it's this.
Truly amazing talents never need to tell others how truly amazing they are.
They just go out, do the work, and demonstrate their excellence silently. They need no cheerleaders. Guys like you who are always running around trying to prove how inferior black ppl are, are almost always trying to convince themselves. And given your persistence, you're finding the job harder than you imagined.
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Gandalf
You want to see racism because I highlight well recognized data and simply say 'Hey it is not all racism, there is also a lack of agency'. You REFUSE to recognize the agency angle. It is all evil white men, but white men are not even the smartest, not even the best behaved, kind of average when compared to other groups on the whole. Why am I not upset by the Ashkenazi Jew IQ data, why am I not frothing at the mouth screaming about the injustice. Probably because I am not much of a Hitler.
Who says I'm upset ?
White people have been saying black people were stupid long b4 the IQ test
Black people according to
- Abraham Lincoln in 1870: less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
- White Supremacists in 2020: less intelligence, more sex drive, more likely to break the law, less self-control
This is nothing new.
By the way there are black Ashkenazi Jews or didn't you know that ? And guess what ? The global system of white supremacy is on their ass too over there in Israel too. They're getting them out there.
But I thought Isreal's Law of Return granted the rights for Jews around the world who are persecuted to come to Israel. So why are the African Jews being persecuted and kicked out?
Because it's all white supremacy.
White supremacist Ben Shapiro, who tries to mask his racist rhetoric by claiming to be jewish. There was a white Jewish Doctor a couple of years ago in the Bronx who was outed as hardcore white supremacist.
Racism in medicine is one of the worst. White supremacists use medicine as a way to commit genocide on black people and then keep it under the radar.
Having a white supremacist in an all black community is no accident.
Everything under the structure of white supremacy is deliberate.
Or remember Judy Mozes wife of the Israeli Interior Minister got on twitter to share a racist joke
http://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy....2ca0d08991557c
When I talk about whiteness. I'm not particularly concerned about genetics at all
I'm discussing race as a social category with social meaning, irrespective of DNA.
Let's take Jewish Scarlett Johannsen
http://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy....344da11afcc283
She is white in this society (and around the world) because to most anyone with whom she would interact, she'll appear “white.” People on the street would look at her, presume her whiteness, and treat her accordingly.
So the presumptions of competence, and law-abidingness, and credit-worthiness, and general intelligence would be automatically given, none of which black people can assume others will presume about us
Whiteness is given by the society based on what people presume you to be. And that presumption has nothing to do with genotype — since people cannot know your DNA just by looking at you, but rather, everything to do with phenotype, which is to say the way certain genes are expressed outwardly, as with skin pigmentation, and a handful of other characteristics, which are controlled by about six genes out of 30,000 in the overall human genome.
Jews are seen as whites, accepted as part of the grand schema of European civilization; viewed as intelligent, hard-working and successful, unlike black people who are still typified as lazy, unintelligent
Getting white people to acknowledge the humanity of a group of white people (however much this group may differ from most of them in terms of religion and certain cultural traditions) is a far cry from convincing them of the equal value of blk ppl, who don’t look like them, and who might not speak the same language, and who are routinely viewed as taking white jobs and soaking up welfare.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
Dennis, we were all friends privately renting a house. There would be nobody to 'tell on' and nobody was kicked out. One chap did have this habit of getting drunk and doing cow impressions and I had my periodic breakdown, but no racism. Your hypothetical is thus meaningless.
The point stands, you are an idiot and what the heck is that ridiculous big font all about? You end up with 2 sentences per paragraph with point meandering to point, and all the while interlaced with childish pictures. Are you trying to compose a black power story book for kids?
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
Many do not see Harry's wife as black either, but you still boil it all down to race which it obviously isn't. I would hate to be in your head dreaming at night. It must be horribly tedious in there. My cat dreams about catching birds. With your one track mind it is probably full of white horror. 'Ah, a white car, a white cloud, a white wedding dress, a majority white country. Aagh!!' he cries waking up in a cold sweat.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Originally Posted by
Gandalf
Dennis, we were all friends privately renting a house. There would be nobody to 'tell on' and nobody was kicked out. One chap did have this habit of getting drunk and doing cow impressions and I had my periodic breakdown, but no racism. Your hypothetical is thus meaningless.
O right yeah and did you tell this black woman who lived in the house that you think black people are intellectually inferior and black people are more likely to get AIDS and black people are the most violent race on earth.
Na. Na. You didn't bring that did ya ? You wimped out and that's a black woman. You would've sh*t ya pants if that was a black man.
Listening what ever you have to say about any black person is as stupid as listening to Ronald McDonald talk about any vegetarian.
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Gandalf
The point stands, you are an idiot and what the heck is that ridiculous big font all about?
My eyesight is not the greatest hence the big font
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Gandalf
You end up with 2 sentences per paragraph with point meandering to point, and all the while interlaced with childish pictures. Are you trying to compose a black power story book for kids?
Anyway I'm done now. Debating with you, is a bit like Zombies....no matter how many you smack down they still keep coming.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Gandalf
Many do not see Harry's wife as black either, but you still boil it all down to race which it obviously isn't. I would hate to be in your head dreaming at night. It must be horribly tedious in there. My cat dreams about catching birds. With your one track mind it is probably full of white horror. 'Ah, a white car, a white cloud, a white wedding dress, a majority white country. Aagh!!' he cries waking up in a cold sweat.
Well she's (Meghan Markle) has never identified with the black community even though she got a WHOLE black mama and grandmother.
But you say "Many do not see Harry's wife as black either"
Really ?
So how do you explain the like Jo Marney’s tweet to her former UKIP leader Henry Bolton ?
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...f673450c828835
Or BBC Radio DJ Danny Baker tweet about the royal baby
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...904e968f85f4f5
Or the death threats.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...f1c5f7766bbf73
Harry used to have Halle Berry posters on his wall when he was a teen. I guess it never left his system
The fact is the royal family don't do ethnics.
The last person who stepped out with a side piece of brown got both of their brains left on the side of a parisan tunnel.
Meghan better be careful during their hunting sessions if Prince Philip is still alive.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...59128fcec21275
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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TitoFan
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Denilson-The-Comeback
All white people say they're not racist.
Wrong, Sherlock. Plenty of white people admit to being racist. For being "all-knowing" you certainly drop the ball on a lot of shit. Many white people don't give a damn about you knowing they're racist. They'll tell it to your face.
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Denilson-The-Comeback
In every era, black folks said they were the victims of racism and we were right. In every era, SOME whites have said the problem was exaggerated, and you have been wrong.
There..... fixed it for ya. ;)
Of course, I don't expect that correction to penetrate that 12-foot concrete barricade between your ears.
So go on. Continue talking for EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON ON EARTH.
The rest of us will just sit here and laugh at you.
Still waiting on you to address these blatant falsehoods, Denny. But no matter. You're like a broken record and ain't no one alive who can fix ya. :p ;) :cool:
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
To be honest I was unaware of the data at the time, but it is something worth discussing. You sound a bit moronic thinking a black man could not handle the information thus playing into your own racial stereotyping. 'How dare you discuss research, I am triggered'. Rage time. Man, you really do think black people have no agency and prove it again. I do not think like you.
And all this conspiracy about the Royals? Just maybe Markle has her own issues. She has a habit of dropping friends, divorcing and refusing her own family. Just maybe she is a difficult person with feminism and injustice on the brain. But no, according to Dennis she better look out because it is a race thing and she will end up killed by the whites.
Yawn.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
And what do you mean by 'the most violent race on earth'. All I am going on is official US data. Is it true or not. That is all that matters. You are more likely to be a victim of violent crime carried out by a black person than another race, but of course people of any race carry out violent crimes and most black people likely do not carry out violent crimes. See, that is part of your problem, Dennis. You see things only in absolutist terms, but as I ALWAYS say, we treat everyone as an individual but pay attention to group differences as a way to understand things.
A system of white supremacy simply wouldn't have East Asians performing better than whites on IQ tests and doing better academically and it certainly wouldn't have Indian-Americans as the top earners in society. Why would the evil white man not do something about that? Probably because it isn't about race, but agency. Some groups just do better than others, they make better choices.
You want it to be about race, but ignore self agency. Your evil white hypothesis is a flawed and pointless one. Your own hang up.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Gandalf
To be honest I was unaware of the data at the time, but it is something worth discussing. You sound a bit moronic thinking a black man could not handle the information thus playing into your own racial stereotyping. 'How dare you discuss research, I am triggered'. Rage time. Man, you really do think black people have no agency and prove it again. I do not think like you.
And all this conspiracy about the Royals? Just maybe Markle has her own issues. She has a habit of dropping friends, divorcing and refusing her own family. Just maybe she is a difficult person with feminism and injustice on the brain. But no, according to Dennis she better look out because it is a race thing and she will end up killed by the whites.
Yawn.
If your family were selling stories to make money out of you then you would drop them in a heartbeat too princess.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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TitoFan
Many white people don't give a damn about you knowing they're racist. They'll tell it to your face.
No. They won't.
I can honestly say in the 36 years I've been on this planet that no white man or woman has said "Hey I'm racist"
You're forgetting one thing
Whites and non blacks talk real tough about black people when they are no black people around
But let them take there toughness down to Detroit, Michigan, Jackson, Mississippi, Rochester, New York.
They would not dare.
Yes whites act tough when they have a power advantage (Boss at work, Cops) or the way the KKK used to roll deep in armies 30, tooled up to the max, and having the backing of local law enforcement just to lynch 1 black man.
Yes they're tough then.
But they don't want to go toe to toe with a black man on a fair one.
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TitoFan
Wrong, Sherlock. Plenty of white people admit to being racist. For being "all-knowing" you certainly drop the ball on a lot of shit.
No they don't.
If you have a system of racism. The only way you can justify screwing ppl is by convincing everyone that they're screwed up anyway.
That's why most white supremacist are like @Gandalf and the tactic they use is to move the argument from what whites do to what they think blacks do.
The usual things white supremacists say when faced with a case of white racism:
- Blacks are racist too.
- You are the racist one.
- I was beaten up/robbed/called names by blacks.
- Blacks have a high crime rate.
- Blacks have a low IQ
- Black men don't look after the kids.
- Blacks like to “blame whitey”.
- Black parents do not care about education.
At one level it is just a cheap attempt to change the subject. But at a deeper level it's also a moral argument – directed not at blks, but at whites themselves.
Whites know they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed. They feel guilt (that's where all your anger comes from because deep down you know what I'm saying is true) about that.
Since they want to believe they are good people they either fight against that inequality – or make up excuses. Making up excuses is way easier.
If they can blame blacks, then they have no reason to feel guilty at all. Then they can still see themselves as good people. Case closed!
So it's not racism any more it's just being realistic.
If that does not work, they'll often try to make blacks seem just as bad. It becomes the "everyone-does-it" argument.
The following are "everyone-does-it" arguments which don't so much shift the blame as spread it to others, which is almost as good:
- It has always been done this way.
- Blacks have it better in America than in Africa.
- All human societies are racist.
- The Arabs traded slaves too.
These are moral arguments but they are at the level of "Everyone-beats-his-wife" or "I-only-beat-my-wife-on-Tuesdays-and-Thursdays"
So in the end we know all about what's wrong with blacks, because that makes white people feel better about themselves, but very little is said about what is wrong with white people and the white racism built into society.
To show how cowardly white supremacist are. I'm reminded of Nazi Christopher Cantrell, who was real gangster on TV bragging about their terror attack in Charlottesville started crying about an arrest warrant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABOVuI0zRcQ
What you crying for ? You're a bad ass ain't ya ? He was talking all that good shit on VICE. Then he was crying like the b*tch he is. This is the same man who said he was “ready for violence” This is same man who said "all n*ggers and Jews must die"
And then a Jew and a brother cop was beating on his door the next day with an arrest warrant.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/proxy....54b83517050bed
White supremacists are cowards.
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TitoFan
So go on. Continue talking for EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON ON EARTH.
The rest of us will just sit here and laugh at you.
You seem to be obsessed with me saying "All white people"
OK. If what you are telling me is true that their are some whites who are not racist then how come these good non racist white people are not up arms about the wretched condition that most black people in S.America are living in ?
You're from P.Rico. Right ? The same dog that bites black ppl everywhere is the same dog that bites blk ppl in P.Rico
If white folks are tired of seeing black ppl talk about racism then there’s an easy way to solve that problem.
Do the work yourselves.
If all these good non racist white people (you're trying to convince me exist) were willing to stand up and condemn the racism in your community then blk ppl wouldn’t have to be the ones leading the rally.
But that’s the problem: most whites do nothing in the face of racism.
- You don’t speak up.
- You don’t talk back.
- You don’t challenge family.
- You don’t challenge friends.
- You don't challenge colleagues.
- You sit back and stay silent.
But when I speak up about racism whites..........all of sudden that's when you pipe up.
But that's what you supposed to do. You're supposed to maintain this system because it's white silence that has always made racism work and now white silence has given strength to the hardcore racists, on radio, in corporate offices, in government positions, in police uniforms.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Gandalf
Indian-Americans as the top earners in society. Why would the evil white man not do something about that? Probably because it isn't about race, but agency. Some groups just do better than others, they make better choices.
OK. So let's talk about this one. Because this is another comman white supremacist talking point
Asians wealthier than whites ?
Not really
When you look at the facts
What the white supremacist do is they look at median family income (The whole family as a whole) Which yes Asian Americans come out on top. This is in 2018:
- $61,000 Asian American
- $52,500 white
- $38,000 Latino
- $35,300 black
- $33,240 Native American
But when you change it to personal income
You get:
- $24,000 whites
- $23,000
- $22,000
- $21,000
- $20,000 Asian American
- $19,000
- $18,000
- $17,000
- $16,000 blacks
- $15,000 Native Americans
- $14,000 Latinos
Asian Americans come out on top of whites in median family income only because Asian families have by and large more people working.
So this was picked because it supports white ppls stereotype about Asians as successful, which in turn makes it seem like American society is not racist.
And let's break it down even more by nationality:
- $26,000 Japanese, Asian Indians
- $25,000
- $24,000 whites
- $23,000 Filipinos
- $22,000
- $21,000
- $20,000 Asian American, Chinese
- $19,000 Pacific Islanders
- $18,000
- $17,000
- $16,000 blacks, Koreans, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Laotians
- $15,000 Native Americans
- $14,000 Latinos
Asian American covers too broader range.
Most who fled Indo-China after the Vietnam War and came to America with next to nothing are still at the bottom, making less than blacks on average. Even Korean Americans, despite their supposedly high IQs, have not clearly passed blacks, much less whites: they are the same as blacks in terms of median personal income ($16,300) and rate of home ownership
The silver bullet is NOT how well-educated Asian Americans are. After all, even in 1940s Japanese Americans were better educated than whites, but few whites would hire them – and, in fact, took their farms and shops and houses and sent them to prison camps. So education alone is hardly a good measure of how un-racist whites are towards Asian Americans.
The better rough measure is personal income when controlled for education. It would be best to do it at the state level since many Asian Americans live in places with a high cost of living, like California.
All non-whites in the United States are subject to racial discrimination in employment, and are denied white privilege. Not that I'm gonna fight Asian people's corner. Too many Asians are whitewashed and have anti black views themselves
Where I got my data from
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Gandalf
A system of white supremacy simply wouldn't have East Asians performing better than whites on IQ tests and doing better academically .
OK Well let's look at that.
Japan lost the war and was de-militarized by the Anglo-U.S. government..
Japan is NOT a sovereign nation, it is a COLONY of the U.S. That’s why Japan is one of the only (or the only) “super powers” that doesn’t have any nuclear weapons (and It won’t be allowed to have any).
Germany ALSO lost the war but can still build nuclear weapons (if it so wishes) and no one worries about them having them in spite of Hitler’s campaign to dominate the planet. Why? Because Germany is a “white nation.”
If you look at the nations where possession of nuclear weapons is a “problem” for the U.S. or Israel or NATO — they are always NON-WHITE nations.
And that’s why Japan cannot force the U.S. to remove its military bases even though it has begged and pleaded many times over the years to ASK (not tell) the U.S. to remove them and the U.S. has the power to refuse to do it.
Japan can’t build anything (even a convenience store) in the U.S. without permission from our government so how can we build, even expand a military presence in Japan without their permission? Because Japan is not just a U.S. colony it is a non-white nation under the system of white supremacy.
Also you say Asians are superior to whites in intelligence. Right ?
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East Asians performing better than whites on IQ tests and doing better academically .
OK. Then
- Asians should be the norm against which everyone else is judged.
- Asians should design the IQ tests by which the world is measured.
- Asian governments should overthrow the governments of non-Asian countries for their own good.
- We should get all of our ideas about other races and the world from Asian media.
- World history and world news should be mainly Asian history and Asian news.
- Hollywood films should have mostly Asian heroes. They should be Asian even in cases where the original character was non-Asian.
- They should make feel-good Asian Saviour films where a nice Asian person saves helpless White people.
- Fashion models should be mainly Asian.
- Asian Americans should hold most of the top positions in US society: business, banking, government, media, education.
- Non-Asian people should be looked down on, feared, laughed at and stereotyped
But no white person makes this sort of argument even though it follows from your “facts” and style of reasoning that white racists use all the time.
That's because deep down racism isn't about fact but feeling.
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Going on that criteria many white countries are occupied too, Dennis. The US has an empire. It occupies white, black, asian and arab spheres of the world. It does not care about race, it cares about control. It is not about the downtrodden black man.
In other words you agree that East Asians do the best academically and thus punch above their weight such as in tech companies with higher than average IQ's and you agree that they tend to earn more too.
We are making progress. Well done Dennis.
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Many white people don't give a damn about you knowing they're racist. They'll tell it to your face.
No. They won't.
I can honestly say in the 36 years I've been on this planet that no white man or woman has said "Hey I'm racist"
You're forgetting one thing
Whites and non blacks talk real tough about black people when they are no black people around
But let them take there toughness down to Detroit, Michigan, Jackson, Mississippi, Rochester, New York.
They would not dare.
It's called self-presevation, Denilson. I shouldn't have to explain that to you. Yet...... you go and walk into a redneck bar and ask anyone there whether they're racist. Different story then, right?
On a one-on-one scenario at a "neutral site", an outwardly racist man will tell you to your face just how racist he is.
So sorry..... still wrong.
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Whites know they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed. They feel guilt (that's where all your anger comes from because deep down you know what I'm saying is true) about that.
I thought Beanz was the only one on here with anger identification issues. I guess I was wrong. For me to be angry it takes several conditions.
1. It has to be important.
2. It has to affect me personally.
3. I have to give a damn first.
You don't check those, or any other boxes, so I guess you're wrong once again. ;)
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OK. If what you are telling me is true that their are some whites who are not racist then how come these good non racist white people are not up arms about the wretched condition that most black people in S.America are living in ?
You're from P.Rico. Right ? The same dog that bites black ppl everywhere is the same dog that bites blk ppl in P.Rico
Are you lumping Puerto Rico in with South America? I hope not, because if you are then you are even more stupid than I thought. Question: Have you ever lived in South America? Another question: Have you ever lived in Puerto Rico? In fact..... have you even VISITED South America or Puerto Rico? No? Then kindly STFU. You know as much about racial conditions outside of your immediate 4 or 5 city blocks radius as I do about neurosurgery.
I'll skip the rest of this nonsensical garbage and go straight to the point.
It's becoming obvious that you feel that if a white person is not out there engaging in protests against racism against blacks, then he/she is racist himself, no? Is that about the gist of it?
Well..... we'll just agree to disagree, Denny.
You're one sad, sad human being if that's how you live your life, Denny.
But you know what? It don't mean shit to me, so carry on with your racist nonsense.
Oh wait..... calling you racist is one of the things white supremacists do.
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I like how you clumsily attempt to cover your tracks and close off all escape hatches.
What a fucking fool. :rolleyes:
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I am not a white supremacist despite you keep @ me when you use the term, Dennis. White people appear to be rather in the middle.
For instance, if white people were dominant then they would dominate companies like Google, but they do not. They are under represented in the firm as representation falls way short of anything matching population demographic numbers. Asians on the other hand are highly overrepresented. Strange to have a bias towards Asians right? Unless they are just damn good at what they do meaning they chose a major well and worked very hard to get where they are. Good for them, I say.
If you worked hard for it then good for you. There are blacks among them too, only not as many. I am fair that way despite being white. I don't want to bring anyone down or anything of the sort. I just want to see smart people doing smart jobs. Plenty of smart black people out there and Google employment rates show that, though some lefties are moaning about diversity of course.
I don't care about color, just are you the best to do the job.
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Going on that criteria many white countries are occupied too, Dennis. The US has an empire. It occupies white, black, asian and arab spheres of the world.
Yes because there is global system of white supremacy. So we agree
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It does not care about race, it cares about control.
The USA does not care about race ? I mean. This is the insanity I have to deal with. The USA was built on racism
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It is not about the downtrodden black man.
Yes black men are downtrodden because the system of white supremacy does that by default.
You see you can talk about how great Asians are but you know this fact.
Black men threaten white men in a way that Hispanic, Asian and Arab men don't.
This fear is ancient and you can trace it to its origins in the first Indo-Aryan invasions of Black civilization. Once you understand the White man’s ancient fear and you began to understand why the economic, legal and political systems oppress Black men.
- Is it because the Blackman built the world’s first civilizations?
- Is it because the Blackman has surpassed White men in every field of human achievement?
- Is it the Whiteman’s sexual inferiority complex they feel regarding the Black Man?
Part of their fear of black men is that we are seen and thought of as so physical we can hurt them, in addition, what can we do to their women? This comes back to the physical; the potency the strength there. There is reason why white men used to chop of black men's penis and keep them as a trophy.
That fear partly sexual goes back a long way, and that comes down to the fact that white men regard black men as better sexual performers than they are.
They don't say this publicly, but they say, 'gee they're so natural' and they began to wonder. 'Our women could they not be attracted to that ?" and that drives them up the wall.
Therefore all their efforts to de-man black men. In the past it was lynching, of course, but now they put blk men in cages, called prisons, again to de-male blk men. they can't call blk men 'boy' but they still do their to make sure black men don’t have jobs, make sure black men don't threaten them in other ways
Black men are the only race of men to really go toe to toe against the white supremacist. There is no Asian or Hispanic, or Native American Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Nelson Mandela, Steve Biko
Come to the Foundational black american conference on June 22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC7D9I5-qu4
That's if they let you in (lol)
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In other words you agree that East Asians do the best academically and thus punch above their weight
https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6b&oe=5EA20BFE
Whites and delusional minorities are always claiming blacks should "work hard and stop looking for handouts" but when blacks achieve they are chomping at the bits to find reasons why blacks don’t deserve to sit at the table ?
Which is it ?
College admissions is nothing but game.
It’s not just a cold statistical numbers score that lots of ppl naively think it is..
They can and do say anything to black students "your application was late" "it got lost" "We don’t like your essay"............. ANYTHING.
Our black ass is not getting in - No matter what.
They reserve over 60% of seats for white students at most schools, graduate and undergraduate and then about 10-20% for asians and Indians.
And even with all that whites cheat all the time
https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...27&oe=5E925B6B
This was a scandal were at least 33 affluent individuals, including television actors, corporate executives and bankers, allegedly engaged in crimes such as bribery and fraud in an effort to buy admission for their children into America's most prestigious universities. These included Yale, Georgetown, Stanford, Wake Forest and other schools.
The ringleader and organizer was allegedly paid tens of millions of dollars to ensure admission for his clients' children. This involved bribing athletic coaches to secure a place at these elite schools for students who did not even play the sport in question. Standardized exams were altered, "corrected" and taken by people other than the students.
If whites and Asians are so great then why the need to cheat ?
They're letting dumb-ass white students in there all day because of their fathers or uncles. Most blacks applying could run circles around them academically but they would never ever be admitted.
https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...16&oe=5EDB4ED3
And this is what it really comes down to
Black excellence.
White supremacists must everyday say to themselves "Why can’t black people just die ?"
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"How is it possible they are still here ?"
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They never expected us to last this long and grow stronger despite all the drugs, war, molestation, guns, police brutality, AIDS, glass ceilings, minstrel shows/ media destruction/ music destruction, prison systems, killings of our boys and girls, poison water/ food supply, Katrina, Haiti.
Were still here
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White supremacists are baffled at our resilience and cannot come to terms with it.
So we are taking no one's spots trust me.
You have a legacy and being a legacy only works if you have a trust fund and your parents have been donating a good % of their annual salary to the school or your dad holds political office or your parents are fortune 500 CEOs, COOs, CFOs or CAOs. Anyone else, it's still a crap shot.
It might get your resume an extra 5 second glance but if they see average jobs and medium income zip-code on your application, you can forget about it.
Blaming the handful of black people that get in is ridiculous. More Black Americans are becoming doctors (despite the obstacles set for black people) and non-blacks hate to see a black person who is superior to them in anything and become bitter and jealous.
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Most of the people killed by the black supremacists were not Jewish. But no one pays attention to that fact. These three were good people, they deserved a better fate.
RIP Joseph Seals
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RIP Michael Rumberger
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/12...6273485535.jpg
RIP Douglas Miguel Rodriguez
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Isabelle Henriquez???
In Denilson's world, anyone not black is white. ;)
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Dennis, so much waffle with cherry picking to make your 'arguments'. Who says anyone is threatened by black men? Why men and not the women too? My old gay friend would only sleep with black men. They are not so scary.
All I have argued is that I think racism is overplayed and that people need to display more agency if they want to get ahead. In my own case it meant not being like my own useless parents. It is one way, but there are others such as being a good parent and checking homework, assisting with intellectual concepts, monitoring friends etc. I would prefer kids to be nurtured and for oppprtunity to open that way. There are differences between everyone and some will do well and others will do badly.
I consider that to be life, but you pin it all on white men. It is a rather feeble premise. Many white people have bad outcomes. Is that racism? Many white people are thick. Is that racism? Many white people are single mothers? Is that racism? It is usually about what you end up with genetically and the choices you then make.
There are non white posters other than yourself here, Dennis. Some are very successful. Where was the white man when it came to holding them down? Where was the white man blocking a black friend from going to University? Where was the white man when others became Professors? You live in your little bubble. There are black politicians, black Presidents, black academics, black Google staff all out there.
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Isabelle Henriquez???
Hispanic is not race.
She (Isabelle Henriquez) is a white Latino. And the white supremacists had no problem supporting George Zimmerman (who was a white Latino) when he murdered Trayvon Martin. He was one of their "brothers". So don't pick and choose who is in the white club when it suits you.
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El Kabong
Isabelle Henriquez???
Hispanic is not race.
She (Isabelle Henriquez) is a white Latino. And the white supremacists had no problem supporting George Zimmerman (who was a white Latino) when he murdered Trayvon Martin. He was one of their "brothers". So don't pick and choose who is in the white club when it suits you.
Sure thing, whatever you say Denilson. You've got a whole history of posts to backup your stance on things. I mean granted you've got to completely change the definitions of basic universally understood words and concepts in order for you to shoehorn your view into some kind of perceivable reality, but other than that there's truly no arguing with you.
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Who says anyone is threatened by black men?
This is how you handle these white supremacists.
I think he forgot that he wasn't on internet.
So he tried to do that in the real world and a brother beat the shit out of him for throwing a bottle at his car and then made him clean it up.
Look at how humble he was.
That's how you handle these cowardly bastards
Black men can wipe out white, Asian and Latino races biologically. I put my seed in any women. I'll get a black child. White men can only have a white child with a white woman. Black people can even have white children with black women.
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.co...8&h=410&crop=1
You put all the races into a pot and mix them up. You'd get a black man or women. The black man and women are the mothers and fathers of humanity. So therefore because of genetic dominance of black men that is why during slavery the black man's penis was cut off, that's why you had all the miscegenation laws.
The root of racism is fear, fear of white genetic annihilation. White folks are the real numerical minority in the world.
Whites are painfully aware of this numerical imbalance. That's where all the white supremacist 14 words thing comes from.
This is why you they project themselves as victims, project themselves as superior, obsessed with creating more weapons to use to fight wars against countries full of people of color. The funneling of guns and drugs into black communities, the funding and supplying of internecine warfare in Africa and Haiti, the Ku Klux Klan, white folks promoting abortion and contraception to black people
All of this is a behavioral system for the survival of White people so the expectation white people will change this behavior is highly unlikely.
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My old gay friend would only sleep with black men. They are not so scary.
So because you've got a sh*t stabber of a friend who liked to get bent over and take it up the butt by black dudes
That's mean's what ?
White supremacists have ALWAYS liked to get fked and fk blacks dudes. I'd be hear all day if I was to point how freaky white dudes are sexually
J Edgar Hoover was a cross dressing gay man who hated black people and he had a lover who was one of his top FBI Agents. Also the FBI wrote an anonymous letter to Martin Luther King encouraging him to kill himself ?
It's been going for the longest.
https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c2&oe=5E9CC86B
White supremacy is not just economic and social domination. It's also largely sexual domination.
That gay white supremacist Ed Buck, drugging and killing gay black men by the truckload and the media were covering it up.
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...29&oe=5ED13736
Money and political influence kept him safe...for a while.
Gay White supremacist Milo Yanopolous married a black man
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...35&oe=5EDB2F3F
Extreme white supremacists are the hoteps of the blanco world. They'll stay shouting 'White Power' but will keep a black woman on speed dial.
Racism is schizophrenia.
When whites were spitting on us, chasing us with German shepherds and holding picnics at our lynchings. They were still setting us up in their home to cook their food, fold their laundry, allowing us to entertain them as musicians while the same musician couldn't come through the front door.
It's gutter sex because let's be clear, that's how most whites and non blacks view sex with black people. That's why they call it "slumming" because in a white women's or man's mind they have to debase themselves in order to have sex with black person.
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All I have argued is that I think racism is overplayed
White people have always said that. That's part of the code o being white.
Back in slavery times, they used to have a word for it, “Drapetomania,” which was the name given to any black person who tried to must clearly be suffering from a mental illness. Mild whipping was the best cure of all. So not only is racism, blacks who resist it are to be viewed not only as exaggerating their condition, but as mentally ill..
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In my own case it meant not being like my own useless parents.
What ? Daddy or mommy didn't love you ? Poor @Gandalf (lol)
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Gandalf
It is one way, but there are others such as being a good parent and checking homework, assisting with intellectual concepts, monitoring friends etc. I would prefer kids to be nurtured and for oppprtunity to open that way. There are differences between everyone and some will do well and others will do badly.
Look.
Black people in America can expect to have a hard time finding a job. Be paid less for it if we do get it. We can expect to have a harder time getting a loan. Pay a higher price if we do get it. We can expect to have a harder time finding an apartment or a house. This makes it more likely that they end up in a “certain neighborhoods,” which reduce access to investment, reduce the quality of their children’s education, and disadvantage them in myriad other ways.
We can expect to be viewed and treated as dangerous criminals, hail a taxi, or even move into a neighborhood. We can expect to have a hard time getting accepted to college, struggle to receive the same treatment from professors and advisors.
We can expect to be regularly pulled over and fear that an officer with an attitude problem or a quota to fill might arrest them on bogus charges, or maybe even plant evidence.
We can expect police officers to operate under the assumption that we are guilty, and we can expect to be railroaded by the justice system, even to the point of being forced to take guilty pleas when they are innocent.
And guess what ?
All that happens that’s when black ppl are doing everything right.
All that happens even if (As you say) the black parent is checking homework, assisting with intellectual concepts, monitoring friends being nurtured and for opportunity.
Now god forbid black ppl should make a mistake. If we do, they can expect to pay for it in ways that white people don’t, often for the rest of their lives.
We can expect to be arrested, charged, convicted, and imprisoned for offenses that a large percentage of whites consider part of “being a teenager” or a college student. We can expect stiffer charges, higher conviction rates, and longer sentences.
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I consider that to be life, but you pin it all on white men. It is a rather feeble premise.
Shaming tactics don't work with me. This is another tactic white supremacist "Stop being such a cry baby"
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Gandalf
Many white people have bad outcomes. Is that racism? Many white people are thick. Is that racism? Many white people are single mothers? Is that racism? It is usually about what you end up with genetically and the choices you then make.
If you are a white man and you can cut it in a system that is set up for you to prosper then that's on you.
And no bad out-coming having, thick, single mother raised white person would swap places with me.
You argument is like me pointing out that Stevie Wonder is rich and then saying "There's no obstacles to being blind anyone can make it it"
So, the proper test would be to compare bad out-coming having, thick, single mother raised white person with the bad out-coming having, thick, single mother raised black person
And then ask do whites have an advantage ?
Nothing is more racist than a poor white person.
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Gandalf
There are non white posters other than yourself here, Dennis. Some are very successful.
And that means what ?
It world against black ppl. This was poster on linkedin by an Indian American
https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...85&oe=5E8DBD38
This is a newer tactic by white supremacy. Make bold racist statements in public then retract them & apologize. You give yourself cover because you show remorse publicly. Fox News does this all the times. This is how a lot of companies operate.
As I say only difference is this time the CEO is an Indian American.
I kinda knew they would be Asian.
White people aren't this blatant unless they're hicks. And hicks don't hire people.
A few more things:
1. Company is based in Ashburn, Va. Okay so...northern Virginia. A mix of "elite" immigrants and ritzy liberal whites.
2. It's very anti-Black area which is perpetuated by Indians, Asians, and white-passing Latinos.
3. As you move north toward DC & MD the anti-Blackness is actually upheld by immigrants in the state of Virginia. Virginia whites south of that just make a concerted effort to stay away from Black people. Which I actually and respect more.
I find this refreshing. People being honest. Instead of blacks being gas-lighted.
This is why black people should never use the term "People Of Color"
We have no friends.
It the whole world Vs Black people.
Minority races seek to align themselves with whites and want to erase black people. They need to admit this is how they operate and keep it pushing.
Funny how so many of these non white Asian countries worship Whiteness/White men who outright want to wipe them off the face of the Earth
Let them learn the hard way.
It's World against black people.
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Where was the white man when it came to holding them down? Where was the white man blocking a black friend from going to University? Where was the white man when others became Professors? You live in your little bubble.
You don't get a cookie from me for allowing black people to do things we are supposed to do !!! Black people are supposed to be able to go to school and university and you're sitting up "Look. How great we white people are for allowing you negroes to got to uni with us"
This is the insanity I have to deal with
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Gandalf
There are black politicians, black Presidents, black academics, black Google staff all out there.
And white ppl can can get rid of any black President, black academic, black google staff when they want to.
So they're still under the system of white supremacy.
Obama didn't come in and say "Hey white ppl. I'm gonna be president of the USA and there ain't sh*t you can do about. I'm gonna run on a 100% black agenda. I'm gonna make sure every black area is economically strong, from Denver (Michigan) to Rochester (New York). There's gonna no police killing of boys and girls and men and women. Any one who unjustly does that sh*t will get the death penalty. There are gonna be no flooding black areas with drugs and guns. Were gonna sort out the black homeless problem, the black unemployment problem, the black wealth problem. We are gonna make inroads in trying to break down all the bullshit you people have thrown at us for past 400 years. All this of this won't happened and be achieved in my tenure. But we are gonna get the ball rolling"
Power isn’t given, it must be taken. Obama was given a powerful position by the most powerful white people in the U.S actually means he had little POWER AT ALL
No group that is smart enough to be in power is stupid enough to educate, nominate, and finance someone who wants to destroy or diminish their power
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Have you ever tried therapy, Dennis? You are a parody of a black person as I never met one as freaky as you.
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Gandalf has changed his tune on genetics and is more accepting that environmental factors play a bigger role on intelligence than he thought previously thanks to you Titofan.
So in that sense it is a win. :)
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No, logic tells us it is genes and environment. If I was the product of generations of cousin marriage I would likely have physical deformity and a lower IQ. There is no real way around genetic factors in terms of how we evolve. However, the positive side of me likes to think that environment plays a part as that is something we can fix. We can choose not to marry a cousin, we can choose to marry a decent person, we can choose to nurture our children, to feed them properly. Those things can only be a positive.
If it was all environment then I would probably have an IQ of 85-90, but I don't. I experienced the same things as many of the more disadvantaged black people in the UK in terms of upbringing. It is one reason so many whites experience the same kinds of problems IMO. I have never been advantaged because of the color of my skin and the black people I have seen do well have not done so because of the color of their skin either. This obsession with skin color holding people down is exaggerated and fails to account for what is actually going on beneath the skin.
Intelligence is what typically defines us and what we are able to do. Not skin color. Thus people of any race can do well and the people who end up losing out are actually Asians in the West as they are discriminated against for being too smart. Now that is racism. I do not believe in discriminating against anyone based upon their race and think if you are smarter than others then that entitles you to your academic place or a particular job.
I find it funny seeing some articles about companies like Google written by black writers as they nearly always complain about there being too many white men. However, it is Asians who are really over represented and actually white workers, like black workers, are under represented going by national demographics. Now if I was really a white supremacist, would I not argue for more white workers and less Asians? However, I do not because I believe in meritocracy and affirmative action for nobody. I am not much of a racist.
Denilson will moan about me saying black people are more likely to get diabetes or divorce, but these are facts and all I suggest is that people control their diets better or choose a partner carefully. I am not special. I have been sick in my time, I let my blood sugar get too high, but the key is to say 'Oh, I better not eat so much of that' or 'I better not meet women in bars'. You can fix things if you have it in you to do that. A few simple things like that goes a long way.
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That might have sounded contradictory, but basically in academia East Asian students who do tend to perform the best of any group have been discriminated against. So, the current racial madness is to actually discriminate against those who do perform the best and should we not applaud strong families and people excelling rather than just saying that we are all just the same when we are not? Not everyone is a winner and that is where I think the exceptional students of the human race rather than a more even distribution of races is more important. So, again I actually consider the modern mania to be racist. I have no qualms with a class being say 60% Asian, 30% white and 10% black or whatever it might be at whatever place it is. It should not be about a quota but ability alone. Denilson has this idea that it is all corrupt, but as far as I can recall we were not even allowed to write our names on an exam paper. You cannot be discriminated against if nobody knows the race of the person writing the essay or doing a math test and it is double checked blind.
https://news.utexas.edu/2018/12/18/t...iverse-enough/
I keep bringing up the Google point because there is no way you could ever say 'Google just likes Asians more whence the numbers'. It tends to be because with good family structures young people end up being nurtured and guided into taking useful majors that will advance their careers the best. In that sense as a teenager I was like anyone else in that I made up my own mind and didn't really have a clue. There was no systemic racism making me choose a subject that I just enjoyed rather than considered in terms of my overall long term life outcomes which is of course rather stupid if you are paying to do the course and are going to waste several years of your life. ;D
And no Dennis, Mummy and Daddy did not love me, so I do get the position of how disenchanted young people can become as they are. I do get it. It is why I constantly say have children if you can love and nurture and don't do it if you cannot. It saves the world a lot of bother, it is harder to overcome that than life with say with a pushy Asian Mum and Dad who really are paying attention to your needs and future welfare. We should be taught to read and write by our parents, encouraged to learn languages from a young age, be learning the piano, memorizing the names of every plant and tree we come across. Somewhere something will stick and the child will love it and grow and isn't that better than broken families and saying 'Hey you study too well, so we are limiting you and sticking these chaps in'. I just suggest getting families right and raising standards that way and no not everybody will be a winner. That is life, but not everybody needs to work for big tech. I don't, you don't and most of us don't. We all have our place somewhere.
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
Back to wondering which of you long winded repetitive fookers are actually Beanz or Brock ;D. Come up for air and smell the roses
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
Hmm... speaking of Beanz, he hasn't been around for awhile. The lack of blood splattered everywhere is a dead giveaway. A morbid person (not me ;D ) would even say it's been a bit boring around here without Beanz's all-out wars, mostly with Miles, but easily shifted onto some nearby bystander. Denilson has tried to pick up the slack, but alas his white supremacy thesis posts can only hold my interest for about a quarter of a post. It's all downhill from there. Brock? Poor soul is probably out there right now, creating some new identity with which to reenter the forum. If I were him I'd try a country that speaks English, as faking that linguistic-impaired French guy was a bit too tough to pull off convincingly (Grammerly indeed.... :D ).
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Gandalf
Now if I was really a white supremacist
It does not get more white supremacist than the belief that black people are the most stupidest race on the planet and the most violent and the ones with AIDS
And look I know your gonna do the "But hey, I mean, there are some smart black ppl, there are some black ppl who are not violent and don't have AIDS, I mean, cmon I just saying on average"
OK. But guess what ?
David Duke says that
Richard Spencer says that
Bull Connor said that
Jared Taylor says that
So what ?
There is a 16 year black child in the UK called Ramarani Graham who has an IQ higher than Bill Gates or Einstein in the 160's. That's genius level
But of course he's an exception. Right ? But so what anyway ? Because serial killer Ted Bundy apparently had an IQ in the 140's. That's Mensa level. But would it be right to describe a man who used to slit women from their vagina to their throat as intelligent ?
I've said to you before
What I can not understand is this : Why can’t you be just a racist?
Why do you need these pseudo-scientifical explanations? What is wrong with racism? You do promote it, so why be a shame of it? Why you just can not say; “N****s are stupid.”? Why do you feel the need to have “scientifical crutches”? That is mystery to me.
Why not just be who you are ? Is there a nagging uncertainty that you have ?
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
"Most stupidest" :spit:
Are you a parody?
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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El Kabong
"Most stupidest" :spit:
Are you a parody?
https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net...74&oe=5E959182
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Re: Orthodox Jews murdered by 2 Black Hebrew Israelites in Jersey City NJ
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Originally Posted by
Denilson-The-Comeback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLI0GMMbQaQ